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Why would you prefer NSA exploiting them?

by insuffi 13y ago

bpodgursky 13y ago
Because I'm American, and while I'm not really a fan of most of the shit they're pulling, it's still more likely to be in my interest (or less against my interests) than whatever the PLA has in mind.
- lawnchair_larry 13y ago
  Were you somehow under the impression that you need special American keyboards to type in these support logins and passwords? Everybody is hacking these. You should not feel comfortable.
- insuffi 13y ago
  Why? is the PLA more widely known for hacking individuals, especially American citizens?
  - jauer 13y ago
    In general, yes. PLA Unit 61398: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLA_Unit_61398 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLA_Unit_61398 Hacking the Dali Lama: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7559103/Chinese-hackers-steal-Dalai-Lamas-emails.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7559103... and http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/12/net-us-tibet-cyberattack-idUSBRE97B0QU20130812 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/12/net-us-tibet-cyber...
    - insuffi 13y ago
      Wanna try again? http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nsa-hacked-email-account-of-mexican-president-a-928817.html#ref=rss http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nsa-hacked-email-a... http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-nsa-uses-powerful-toolbox-in-effort-to-spy-on-global-networks-a-940969.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-nsa-uses-power...
      - csandreasen 13y ago
        I don't see how either of those two articles refutes the assertion that the PLA is more likely to target Americans than the NSA.
        insuffi 13y ago
        1. I was trying to display that NSA engages in the same actions as the PLA. 2. Real evidence points to real attacks on americans carried out by the NSA. The only tangible shred of information we have about the PLA comes from CNN/MSNBC/Business Insider talking points, and we all know how objective those are.
- baddox 13y ago
  I would estimate that the US government does a lot more harm to US citizens than the Chinese government.

Why would you prefer NSA exploiting them?

by insuffi 13y ago

Why would you prefer NSA exploiting them?

Because I'm American, and while I'm not really a fan of most of the shit they're pulling, it's still more likely to be in my interest (or less against my interests) than whatever the PLA has in mind.

lawnchair_larry 13y ago
Were you somehow under the impression that you need special American keyboards to type in these support logins and passwords? Everybody is hacking these. You should not feel comfortable.
insuffi 13y ago
Why? is the PLA more widely known for hacking individuals, especially American citizens?
- jauer 13y ago
  In general, yes. PLA Unit 61398: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLA_Unit_61398 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLA_Unit_61398 Hacking the Dali Lama: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7559103/Chinese-hackers-steal-Dalai-Lamas-emails.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7559103... and http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/12/net-us-tibet-cyberattack-idUSBRE97B0QU20130812 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/12/net-us-tibet-cyber...
  - insuffi 13y ago
    Wanna try again? http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nsa-hacked-email-account-of-mexican-president-a-928817.html#ref=rss http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nsa-hacked-email-a... http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-nsa-uses-powerful-toolbox-in-effort-to-spy-on-global-networks-a-940969.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-nsa-uses-power...
    - csandreasen 13y ago
      I don't see how either of those two articles refutes the assertion that the PLA is more likely to target Americans than the NSA.
      - insuffi 13y ago
        1. I was trying to display that NSA engages in the same actions as the PLA. 2. Real evidence points to real attacks on americans carried out by the NSA. The only tangible shred of information we have about the PLA comes from CNN/MSNBC/Business Insider talking points, and we all know how objective those are.
baddox 13y ago
I would estimate that the US government does a lot more harm to US citizens than the Chinese government.