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This is going to be big for Chromebooks, I suspect.

by Touche 13y ago

joezydeco 13y ago
And IT departments that don't want company data to ever exist on the laptops. We're back to dumb terminals and mainframes.
- dublinclontarf 13y ago
  Except this time the mainframe is "The Cloud", and there are graphics, so fast internet connectivity is going to be even more essential.
  - joezydeco 13y ago
    "The Cloud" is still a mainframe in Virginia.
- baldfat 13y ago
  Mainframes? Dumb Terminals are great for working environments and we should have never left them.
  - ithkuil 13y ago
    yes but it took some time to build a series of tubes to your home.
- sliverstorm 13y ago
  Progress is a circle.
  - bane 13y ago
    I always liked the phrase "virtuous cycle" as well.
- mhurron 13y ago
  This made me laugh - ".. or to meet IT requirements to not have company data on end user devices" Ya, just put it on Amazon's servers instead. That's way better.
  - Touche 13y ago
    Isn't it? Amazon's server team is way better than your company's.
    - mhurron 13y ago
      I don't usually wave the flag, but no, they aren't. They might be comparable, but not better.
  - nilsbunger 13y ago
    It is better. You can be HIPAA and other obnoxious-acronym compliant in an amazon VPC. You can't with data on random laptops...
    - mhurron 13y ago
      > You can't with data on random laptops... Well, yes you can, you just document the procedure. I really can't understand the disconnect between setting a policy that you can't have company data on company owned/controlled desktops but can have all that data sitting in a 3rd party system.
      - joezydeco 13y ago
        3rd party cloud systems don't get stolen out of backpacks and left behind in coffeeshops. I've got a free year of credit monitoring because a hospital laptop was stolen with patient data on it and they have no idea where it went. Yippee.
        mhurron 13y ago
        And in the future you'll be able to get another free year because AWS was breached and all your health data has been accessible over the internet for god knows how long. Or maybe you won't because it wasn't the hospitals fault, it was Amazon's and you're not their customer. I know I'm looking forward to it. But whatever, just hope that Amazon does the right thing, it's not like you or your healthcare provider can check up on it.
- ebiester 13y ago
  It's all about the tradeoffs given the constraints. Both dumb terminals and smart PCs have their advantages and disadvantages. When a single system is cheaper (counting total ROI) than distributed systems, the mainframe approach will win. Otherwise, the distributed approach will win. The tradeoffs change from year to year and even company to company. PS -- internal web apps are essentially dumb terminals as well, and businesses have been making those since the late 90s.
travem 13y ago
I think there is a market there. VMware and Google have already announced a partnership on VMware's DaaS and Chromebooks - http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2014/02/vmware-to-bring-traditional-windows_12.html http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2014/02/vmware-to-bring... VMware's DaaS has been available since earlier this month - http://www.vmware.com/products/daas http://www.vmware.com/products/daas
OWaz 13y ago
It very well could be if the experience does not seem laggy. I've been using a Windows VM from Azure whenever I want to do something that my Chromebook can't do. I get to the VM with Chrome remote desktop in a new window and it works pretty well.

This is going to be big for Chromebooks, I suspect.

by Touche 13y ago

This is going to be big for Chromebooks, I suspect.

And IT departments that don't want company data to ever exist on the laptops. We're back to dumb terminals and mainframes.

dublinclontarf 13y ago
Except this time the mainframe is "The Cloud", and there are graphics, so fast internet connectivity is going to be even more essential.
- joezydeco 13y ago
  "The Cloud" is still a mainframe in Virginia.
baldfat 13y ago
Mainframes? Dumb Terminals are great for working environments and we should have never left them.
- ithkuil 13y ago
  yes but it took some time to build a series of tubes to your home.
sliverstorm 13y ago
Progress is a circle.
- bane 13y ago
  I always liked the phrase "virtuous cycle" as well.
mhurron 13y ago
This made me laugh - ".. or to meet IT requirements to not have company data on end user devices" Ya, just put it on Amazon's servers instead. That's way better.
- Touche 13y ago
  Isn't it? Amazon's server team is way better than your company's.
  - mhurron 13y ago
    I don't usually wave the flag, but no, they aren't. They might be comparable, but not better.
- nilsbunger 13y ago
  It is better. You can be HIPAA and other obnoxious-acronym compliant in an amazon VPC. You can't with data on random laptops...
  - mhurron 13y ago
    > You can't with data on random laptops... Well, yes you can, you just document the procedure. I really can't understand the disconnect between setting a policy that you can't have company data on company owned/controlled desktops but can have all that data sitting in a 3rd party system.
    - joezydeco 13y ago
      3rd party cloud systems don't get stolen out of backpacks and left behind in coffeeshops. I've got a free year of credit monitoring because a hospital laptop was stolen with patient data on it and they have no idea where it went. Yippee.
      - mhurron 13y ago
        And in the future you'll be able to get another free year because AWS was breached and all your health data has been accessible over the internet for god knows how long. Or maybe you won't because it wasn't the hospitals fault, it was Amazon's and you're not their customer. I know I'm looking forward to it. But whatever, just hope that Amazon does the right thing, it's not like you or your healthcare provider can check up on it.
ebiester 13y ago
It's all about the tradeoffs given the constraints. Both dumb terminals and smart PCs have their advantages and disadvantages. When a single system is cheaper (counting total ROI) than distributed systems, the mainframe approach will win. Otherwise, the distributed approach will win. The tradeoffs change from year to year and even company to company. PS -- internal web apps are essentially dumb terminals as well, and businesses have been making those since the late 90s.

travem 13y ago

I think there is a market there. VMware and Google have already announced a partnership on VMware's DaaS and Chromebooks - http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2014/02/vmware-to-bring-traditional-windows_12.html http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2014/02/vmware-to-bring... VMware's DaaS has been available since earlier this month - http://www.vmware.com/products/daas http://www.vmware.com/products/daas

OWaz 13y ago

It very well could be if the experience does not seem laggy. I've been using a Windows VM from Azure whenever I want to do something that my Chromebook can't do. I get to the VM with Chrome remote desktop in a new window and it works pretty well.