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Good luck starting a union if all the union organizers are fired as soon as management finds out they're unionizing. Good luck starting new companies without an

by tedks 13y ago

Good luck starting a union if all the union organizers are fired as soon as management finds out they're unionizing. Good luck starting new companies without any access to capital. Good luck finding a new job in a labor market like today's. (If you want to see how easy it is to "start a union," there are plenty of active campaigns by unions to unionize various companies: Starbucks and Jimmy Johns are the ones that come most quickly to mind. The people running those campaigns would appreciate your help, and you'd learn a valuable lesson about labor politics.)

adventured 13y ago
Good luck starting new companies? Why yes indeed in fact. I'm very well versed on the history of the free market in America for example, circa 19th and early 20th century. There was no problem in starting companies - in fact it was a boom time for entrepreneurialism - despite the extremely low level of regulation. If there was a market opportunity to make money, capital was available. For every juggernaut there were numerous others that wanted to chop that juggernaut down to size. JP Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, they all had countless large enemies willing to finance competitors. Why should it be easy in a free market to start a union inside of a company? Free markets don't guarantee you have a right to a job or a right to start a union at a company. In a case where the employees don't own the company, assuming they're strictly labor, they agree to work there and get paid for it, or they can quit. That's a free market for labor. You also don't have to work at a company to attempt to organize its labor in a free market. (also I should note, my intentions aren't to have a debate on the pros and cons of free market economics, but rather to describe what a free market for labor actually is)

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Good luck starting a union if all the union organizers are fired as soon as management finds out they're unionizing. Good luck starting new companies without an

by tedks 13y ago

adventured 13y ago
Good luck starting new companies? Why yes indeed in fact. I'm very well versed on the history of the free market in America for example, circa 19th and early 20th century. There was no problem in starting companies - in fact it was a boom time for entrepreneurialism - despite the extremely low level of regulation. If there was a market opportunity to make money, capital was available. For every juggernaut there were numerous others that wanted to chop that juggernaut down to size. JP Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, they all had countless large enemies willing to finance competitors. Why should it be easy in a free market to start a union inside of a company? Free markets don't guarantee you have a right to a job or a right to start a union at a company. In a case where the employees don't own the company, assuming they're strictly labor, they agree to work there and get paid for it, or they can quit. That's a free market for labor. You also don't have to work at a company to attempt to organize its labor in a free market. (also I should note, my intentions aren't to have a debate on the pros and cons of free market economics, but rather to describe what a free market for labor actually is)