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The suit maintains that, because such non-Gmail users who send emails to Gmail users never signed on to Google's terms of services, they can never have given, i

The suit maintains that, because such non-Gmail users who send emails to Gmail users never signed on to Google's terms of services, they can never have given, in Google's terms, "implied consent" to scan their email. This. One victim is the private mailing list: There's always at least one sap who subscribes using google mail. My personal hope is that suits like this will one day push them to discontinue gmail.

scrollaway 13y ago
Oh, look, a troll.
thaumasiotes 13y ago
But this is nonsense. The sender doesn't need to consent; the recipient has all the legal power over his mail. If I want to engage a company to keep files on all my paper mail, and all associated metadata, there's nothing you can do to stop me.
- e12e 13y ago
  > If I want to engage a company to keep files on all my paper mail, and all associated metadata, there's nothing you can do to stop me. (my emphasis) Well, in Norway I could report the company for storing personal data without a license to do so. Essentially any database (even list of phone numbers[1]) that contains personal data (name, contact information, any other information) is regulated. The laws have been somewhat modernized, so that it is assumed that it is ok for a school to give out (and keep) contact information to households/parents of a class -- or for a business to keep a database of customers, for example -- but you most certainly are not allowed to "just keep a lot of data on people because you can". If you were to do it as a private person, you would most likely never get caught, of course -- but as a business you'd essentially be committing a crime -- and could face (rather steep) fines. This is why Norway (along with a few other European countries) have taken a rather dim view of Facebook -- and note that with Facebook, users do consent in general (barring the shadow profiles, information uploaded by users regarding non-users etc).

scrollaway 13y ago

Oh, look, a troll.

thaumasiotes 13y ago

But this is nonsense. The sender doesn't need to consent; the recipient has all the legal power over his mail. If I want to engage a company to keep files on all my paper mail, and all associated metadata, there's nothing you can do to stop me.

e12e 13y ago
> If I want to engage a company to keep files on all my paper mail, and all associated metadata, there's nothing you can do to stop me. (my emphasis) Well, in Norway I could report the company for storing personal data without a license to do so. Essentially any database (even list of phone numbers[1]) that contains personal data (name, contact information, any other information) is regulated. The laws have been somewhat modernized, so that it is assumed that it is ok for a school to give out (and keep) contact information to households/parents of a class -- or for a business to keep a database of customers, for example -- but you most certainly are not allowed to "just keep a lot of data on people because you can". If you were to do it as a private person, you would most likely never get caught, of course -- but as a business you'd essentially be committing a crime -- and could face (rather steep) fines. This is why Norway (along with a few other European countries) have taken a rather dim view of Facebook -- and note that with Facebook, users do consent in general (barring the shadow profiles, information uploaded by users regarding non-users etc).