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"Dropped the ball" ?!?!!??!?!?! This is so far beyond inappropriate. If it is even 10% true then there are serious organisational problems at that company. I

by enneff 13y ago

"Dropped the ball" ?!?!!??!?!?! This is so far beyond inappropriate. If it is even 10% true then there are serious organisational problems at that company. I am gobsmacked that people are leaping to downplay these accusations, without knowing anything about it.

Dylan16807 13y ago
Well it's not really his responsibility. It's the wife's, then HR's, then the police's job. And in most matters that don't involve anyone actually dying I think 'dropped the ball' is perfectly acceptable.
- dasil003 13y ago
  Maybe not technically, but he is a founder and I think he should take some responsibility. The wife's power came from his position in the company, and she was able to get away with that only because she was his wife. If my partner was coming into the office and intimidating employees at my company that is something we'd be having serious conversations about the minute I heard out about it. Of course I also like to think I wouldn't marry a psychopath, but that's neither here nor there, because if I left something like this for HR to deal with I'd feel like an impotent twit.
- theorique 13y ago
  Within the context of the company, it's his responsibility as an founder and an executive. His wife (AFAIK) has no formal title or role at the company - all her power and influence is derived from his status as a founder/executive. Yes, as a person with free will, his wife is ultimately responsible and "shouldn't" have done what she is alleged to have done. But in the context of corporate governance and law, he is responsible for allowing her to have privileges and access to the company that are quite unconventional.
  - bsder 13y ago
    Do you know this? Does she hold no stock? Do none of the finances have her signature?
    - theorique 13y ago
      Certainly not. If the wife has a formal, executive role at the company, then that's a completely different matter. I'm just speculating based on the usual way of things - I could be completely wrong.
oh_sigh 13y ago
You a liar/thief/vagabond/ruffian/scoundrel/bully/shithead/asshole/arsonist/murderer/sexist/racist. If even 10% of that is true, it is a serious allegation against you. You are not to be trusted.
- enneff 13y ago
  My point was not so much about the veracity of the claims, but rather as a comment on the severity of the issue (true or not).
  - oh_sigh 13y ago
    Is there any value in commenting on the severity of the issue in such a manner?
    - enneff 13y ago
      Well, yeah. I was commenting on the low key remark that the founder "dropped the ball," which IMO is a massive understatement.
- rtpg 13y ago
  Unlike your comment, this story is so long and has so many points that could be verified later through eyewitness accounts and otherwise that it's hard to imagine all of it being false (I'm inclined to believe this story).
  - ebfe 13y ago
    Oh_sigh's comment is long and makes a number of points, all of which could be verified. I'm inclined to believe it.
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- enneff 13y ago
  > Men are worse than women at being able to effectively mediate conflicts between two members of the opposite sex. The poor emotionally-unequipped male is powerless to do anything! Do you realise how absurd this sounds?
  - Crito 13y ago
    Hmm, I read his comment more as stating a case for the value of diversity in leadership, not as a tone-deaf plea for pity.
  - voidlogic 13y ago
    I think this cuts both ways, I find women have a poor understanding of the dynamics's of men's relationships.
- claudius 13y ago
  > Men are worse than women at being able to effectively mediate conflicts between two members of the opposite sex. Do you have any sort of justification for this archaic, idiotic and entirely out-of-place sexism?
- nawitus 13y ago
  So you're saying that women are better at HR because HR departments are typically dominated by women? Do you also believe that men are better at programming?
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by enneff 13y ago

Dylan16807 13y ago

Well it's not really his responsibility. It's the wife's, then HR's, then the police's job. And in most matters that don't involve anyone actually dying I think 'dropped the ball' is perfectly acceptable.

dasil003 13y ago
Maybe not technically, but he is a founder and I think he should take some responsibility. The wife's power came from his position in the company, and she was able to get away with that only because she was his wife. If my partner was coming into the office and intimidating employees at my company that is something we'd be having serious conversations about the minute I heard out about it. Of course I also like to think I wouldn't marry a psychopath, but that's neither here nor there, because if I left something like this for HR to deal with I'd feel like an impotent twit.
theorique 13y ago
Within the context of the company, it's his responsibility as an founder and an executive. His wife (AFAIK) has no formal title or role at the company - all her power and influence is derived from his status as a founder/executive. Yes, as a person with free will, his wife is ultimately responsible and "shouldn't" have done what she is alleged to have done. But in the context of corporate governance and law, he is responsible for allowing her to have privileges and access to the company that are quite unconventional.
- bsder 13y ago
  Do you know this? Does she hold no stock? Do none of the finances have her signature?
  - theorique 13y ago
    Certainly not. If the wife has a formal, executive role at the company, then that's a completely different matter. I'm just speculating based on the usual way of things - I could be completely wrong.

oh_sigh 13y ago

You a liar/thief/vagabond/ruffian/scoundrel/bully/shithead/asshole/arsonist/murderer/sexist/racist. If even 10% of that is true, it is a serious allegation against you. You are not to be trusted.

enneff 13y ago
My point was not so much about the veracity of the claims, but rather as a comment on the severity of the issue (true or not).
- oh_sigh 13y ago
  Is there any value in commenting on the severity of the issue in such a manner?
  - enneff 13y ago
    Well, yeah. I was commenting on the low key remark that the founder "dropped the ball," which IMO is a massive understatement.
rtpg 13y ago
Unlike your comment, this story is so long and has so many points that could be verified later through eyewitness accounts and otherwise that it's hard to imagine all of it being false (I'm inclined to believe this story).
- ebfe 13y ago
  Oh_sigh's comment is long and makes a number of points, all of which could be verified. I'm inclined to believe it.

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enneff 13y ago
> Men are worse than women at being able to effectively mediate conflicts between two members of the opposite sex. The poor emotionally-unequipped male is powerless to do anything! Do you realise how absurd this sounds?
- Crito 13y ago
  Hmm, I read his comment more as stating a case for the value of diversity in leadership, not as a tone-deaf plea for pity.
- voidlogic 13y ago
  I think this cuts both ways, I find women have a poor understanding of the dynamics's of men's relationships.
claudius 13y ago
> Men are worse than women at being able to effectively mediate conflicts between two members of the opposite sex. Do you have any sort of justification for this archaic, idiotic and entirely out-of-place sexism?
nawitus 13y ago
So you're saying that women are better at HR because HR departments are typically dominated by women? Do you also believe that men are better at programming?
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