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That's a terrible retort. Downloading and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live, and it can also take a very long

That's a terrible retort. Downloading and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live, and it can also take a very long time.

icebraining 13y ago
Download and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live Dropbox doesn't have a 1TB plan, but 2x500GB costs $1000/year. On Drive, it costs $100/year. That's a difference of $900/year. I don't know where you live, but around here $900/year buys you a pretty fucking good connection, with blackjack and hookers included. it can also take a very long time. So what? You can still use Drive until everything is copied.
- shinratdr 13y ago
  That would be 100/month, not a year. Looks like Drive and Dropbox actually have identical pricing in this respect.
  - pfg 13y ago
    No, it's $10/month on Drive, and 2 * $49.99/month on Dropbox (or 2 * $499/year).
- fletchowns 13y ago
  I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload (AT&T U-Verse). Certainly no blackjack and hookers included.
  - diminoten 13y ago
    You're getting ripped off. Severely.
    - fletchowns 13y ago
      You say that like I have a choice for my ISP.
      - diminoten 13y ago
        You mean like Comcast, Unwired, Sonic, MegaPath, DSL Extreme, Covad, and AT&T? Yeah, I guess I'd call that "choice".
        fletchowns 13y ago
        AT&T U-Verse is the only thing available in my apartment complex. I chuckled at Unwired...I can pay twice as much for half the speed? Sign me up!!
  - eterm 13y ago
    Business T1 pipe? As residential users we are I think prone to forget how much cheaper and faster our unreliable async connections are in comparison to business broadband.
    - philsnow 13y ago
      I guess that you are 33 +- 3 years old :) a t1 was "fast" about 15 years ago, so if you learned a tiny bit about business class internet right around when you were 20 like I did, that's how fast a connection would have been around then.
  - tjohns 13y ago
    Comcast in the bay area charges $77/month for a residential-class connection at 50 Mbps down / 10 Mbps up. Even if you go for a business-class connection, it's $70/month for 16/3. In short, you need to find a better ISP. :)
    - fletchowns 13y ago
      There's no alternative here.
  - 300bps 13y ago
    I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload Well, that's terrible and you are no doubt aware of that. I live in Philadelphia and pay $74.95 per month for Unlimited home phone service, Prime TV channel lineup and 75 Mbps downstream and 35 Mbps upstream unlimited Internet through Verizon FIOS. I currently use both Dropbox and OneDrive but this pricing is ridiculously cheap. I've been purposely holding back on the things I back up onto cloud because of its costs but if competitors don't follow suit I'll be switching. The main thing I haven't been backing up in the cloud are the ~ 400 GB of home movies I have.
  - lstamour 13y ago
    And then I did the math and realised I pay $1735.54 per year for my cable Internet... 300 down / 20 up with a 1 TB cap doesn't come cheap when no competition exists at those speeds. If it were even offered in my area, fibre from the same company is north of $3000/year, and for that all I get is symmetric uplink. Still, at 300 down, 1 TB = 8388608 mbits / 300 mbits/s = 466 minutes or just under 8 hours. And luckily, my monthly cap is 1 TB. (Also lucky: I don't download 24/7 to hit that cap in under 8 hours.)
    - pwg 13y ago
      Verizon FIOS business class: 99.99/month. Essentially 1200/year. 50Mbit down - 50Mbit up - no data caps (or so they say). And yes, I do (provided the other end is capable) see those speeds.
      - lstamour 13y ago
        > provided the other end is capable Yeah. I noticed that too -- if a site is slow, I now either blame the location-unaware Google DNS (because of crappy ISP-provided DNS) or I know to blame the site. Even if I hardcode an alkamai address for my favourite streaming site, the only way I get to top speed is by 802.11ac when my Nexus 5 is cooperating (it really likes the stability of G or N) or by plugging in with gigabit Ethernet. But wow, it makes the Internet at work seem blazing slow. A reverse from the 90s, eh? ;-) Funny. I would have thought more people on HN would chime in with plans $100+. Of course it also makes it harder for me to shop for a dedicated server -- since I really want gigE or 10gigE to serve things fast enough to myself. And the sad truth is I know I'll see 600-1.2gbits over copper before I see fiber optics. I give it another 2-3 years tops. (Why? I'm already hooked up locally to 600mbps, but they only use half right now.) I just hope prices don't double again, as 5 years ago this plan was nearly half off for half the speed. That said, I'd pay the same to Google Fiber if they chose Toronto next year (yes, I know it's near double), just so I could have a proper, local DNS service from my ISP with no search hijacking. Is it too much to ask a telco for respect to go along with speed?
- jl6 13y ago
  Dropbox has an unlimited plan for $795.
crazygringo 13y ago
If it's so incredibly expensive where you live, then you probably aren't using online file storage in the first place. And yes it can take a long time, but you might swap cloud providers every 2-5 years, you're not doing it every day. Even if it still takes a month to copy all your files, that's generally an unattended process, so it's not such a big deal. I'm not saying it's trivial, but it's not a huge deal. All things considered, it's pretty easy to switch.
- arjie 13y ago
  Not to enter the Google v Dropbox argument, but with data caps, it's easy to slowly build up a lot of backed up data that you cannot really retrieve all at once.
  - rwallace 13y ago
    Not to enter that argument either, but whatever cloud storage service you use, you should be storing your data there as well as on at least one local hard disk, not instead of.
    - lstamour 13y ago
      That's likely why Google and Dropbox both offer "Sync"-style functionality, as do iCloud and OneDrive. It's on your disk plus in the cloud.
scott_karana 13y ago
If Google Drive is getting shuttered, no doubt their competitors will immediately implement "Google Drive importers" using the API, if they don't have them already.
blisterpeanuts 13y ago
>>>Download and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live, and it can also take a very long time. Not if you have Google Fiber! Of course, you have to hope they don't exit that business, as well.
foobarqux 13y ago
Spin up a VPS and transfer the files through that. It will cost you $10.
Retric 13y ago
You don't need to download locally, rent a server for ~50$ and use it to do the download + upload and even if they shut down in 2.5 years your still saving over 2,000$ which IMO is worth a reasonable effort.

That's a terrible retort. Downloading and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live, and it can also take a very long time.

icebraining 13y ago

Download and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live Dropbox doesn't have a 1TB plan, but 2x500GB costs $1000/year. On Drive, it costs $100/year. That's a difference of $900/year. I don't know where you live, but around here $900/year buys you a pretty fucking good connection, with blackjack and hookers included. it can also take a very long time. So what? You can still use Drive until everything is copied.

shinratdr 13y ago
That would be 100/month, not a year. Looks like Drive and Dropbox actually have identical pricing in this respect.
- pfg 13y ago
  No, it's $10/month on Drive, and 2 * $49.99/month on Dropbox (or 2 * $499/year).
fletchowns 13y ago
I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload (AT&T U-Verse). Certainly no blackjack and hookers included.
- diminoten 13y ago
  You're getting ripped off. Severely.
  - fletchowns 13y ago
    You say that like I have a choice for my ISP.
    - diminoten 13y ago
      You mean like Comcast, Unwired, Sonic, MegaPath, DSL Extreme, Covad, and AT&T? Yeah, I guess I'd call that "choice".
      - fletchowns 13y ago
        AT&T U-Verse is the only thing available in my apartment complex. I chuckled at Unwired...I can pay twice as much for half the speed? Sign me up!!
- eterm 13y ago
  Business T1 pipe? As residential users we are I think prone to forget how much cheaper and faster our unreliable async connections are in comparison to business broadband.
  - philsnow 13y ago
    I guess that you are 33 +- 3 years old :) a t1 was "fast" about 15 years ago, so if you learned a tiny bit about business class internet right around when you were 20 like I did, that's how fast a connection would have been around then.
- tjohns 13y ago
  Comcast in the bay area charges $77/month for a residential-class connection at 50 Mbps down / 10 Mbps up. Even if you go for a business-class connection, it's $70/month for 16/3. In short, you need to find a better ISP. :)
  - fletchowns 13y ago
    There's no alternative here.
- 300bps 13y ago
  I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload Well, that's terrible and you are no doubt aware of that. I live in Philadelphia and pay $74.95 per month for Unlimited home phone service, Prime TV channel lineup and 75 Mbps downstream and 35 Mbps upstream unlimited Internet through Verizon FIOS. I currently use both Dropbox and OneDrive but this pricing is ridiculously cheap. I've been purposely holding back on the things I back up onto cloud because of its costs but if competitors don't follow suit I'll be switching. The main thing I haven't been backing up in the cloud are the ~ 400 GB of home movies I have.
- lstamour 13y ago
  And then I did the math and realised I pay $1735.54 per year for my cable Internet... 300 down / 20 up with a 1 TB cap doesn't come cheap when no competition exists at those speeds. If it were even offered in my area, fibre from the same company is north of $3000/year, and for that all I get is symmetric uplink. Still, at 300 down, 1 TB = 8388608 mbits / 300 mbits/s = 466 minutes or just under 8 hours. And luckily, my monthly cap is 1 TB. (Also lucky: I don't download 24/7 to hit that cap in under 8 hours.)
  - pwg 13y ago
    Verizon FIOS business class: 99.99/month. Essentially 1200/year. 50Mbit down - 50Mbit up - no data caps (or so they say). And yes, I do (provided the other end is capable) see those speeds.
    - lstamour 13y ago
      > provided the other end is capable Yeah. I noticed that too -- if a site is slow, I now either blame the location-unaware Google DNS (because of crappy ISP-provided DNS) or I know to blame the site. Even if I hardcode an alkamai address for my favourite streaming site, the only way I get to top speed is by 802.11ac when my Nexus 5 is cooperating (it really likes the stability of G or N) or by plugging in with gigabit Ethernet. But wow, it makes the Internet at work seem blazing slow. A reverse from the 90s, eh? ;-) Funny. I would have thought more people on HN would chime in with plans $100+. Of course it also makes it harder for me to shop for a dedicated server -- since I really want gigE or 10gigE to serve things fast enough to myself. And the sad truth is I know I'll see 600-1.2gbits over copper before I see fiber optics. I give it another 2-3 years tops. (Why? I'm already hooked up locally to 600mbps, but they only use half right now.) I just hope prices don't double again, as 5 years ago this plan was nearly half off for half the speed. That said, I'd pay the same to Google Fiber if they chose Toronto next year (yes, I know it's near double), just so I could have a proper, local DNS service from my ISP with no search hijacking. Is it too much to ask a telco for respect to go along with speed?
jl6 13y ago
Dropbox has an unlimited plan for $795.

crazygringo 13y ago

If it's so incredibly expensive where you live, then you probably aren't using online file storage in the first place. And yes it can take a long time, but you might swap cloud providers every 2-5 years, you're not doing it every day. Even if it still takes a month to copy all your files, that's generally an unattended process, so it's not such a big deal. I'm not saying it's trivial, but it's not a huge deal. All things considered, it's pretty easy to switch.

arjie 13y ago
Not to enter the Google v Dropbox argument, but with data caps, it's easy to slowly build up a lot of backed up data that you cannot really retrieve all at once.
- rwallace 13y ago
  Not to enter that argument either, but whatever cloud storage service you use, you should be storing your data there as well as on at least one local hard disk, not instead of.
  - lstamour 13y ago
    That's likely why Google and Dropbox both offer "Sync"-style functionality, as do iCloud and OneDrive. It's on your disk plus in the cloud.

scott_karana 13y ago

If Google Drive is getting shuttered, no doubt their competitors will immediately implement "Google Drive importers" using the API, if they don't have them already.

blisterpeanuts 13y ago

>>>Download and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live, and it can also take a very long time. Not if you have Google Fiber! Of course, you have to hope they don't exit that business, as well.

foobarqux 13y ago

Spin up a VPS and transfer the files through that. It will cost you $10.

Retric 13y ago

You don't need to download locally, rent a server for ~50$ and use it to do the download + upload and even if they shut down in 2.5 years your still saving over 2,000$ which IMO is worth a reasonable effort.