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in that case, it can be argued that the soviet union was not real Communism either.
by galactus 13y ago
in that case, it can be argued that the soviet union was not real Communism either.
- Houshalter 13y agoIt wasn't and many people do argue that whenever the subject comes up.
- galactus 13y agoI know, my point is that both "real" capitalism (the libertarian kind) and "real" communism are fantasies.
- Double_Cast 13y agoWhenever I hear the word "capitalism", I interpret it as "private ownership" by default. I have to remind myself they probably mean the "Laissez Faire" flavor of capitalism. It screws with me sometimes.
- adventured 13y agoThe difference being, to achieve full Communism you have to kill everyone or enslave them completely such that they have no rights. Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, Fidel, Kim il-Sung - they all gave it their best try. And your comparison isn't accurate at all. There are obvious and often massive differences between America's economic models of 1825, 1910, 1960, and 2014. 2014 isn't in any respect similar to the 1825 or 1910 versions. To argue that America in 2014 is highly Capitalistic, is to argue that Capitalism is compatible with a government system taking 40% of the economy through taxation, massive wealth redistribution, government interference in essentially every sector, nationalization (quasi or total) of core economic segments, welfare programs sprawling to hundreds of billions in cost, tens of thousands of regulations covering every field, and on and on - basically it's like saying that Capitalism can be anything. It can't, it's a specific type of model.
- chongli 13y agoThe depth of ignorance on display here is staggering. Why not read The Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital instead of making a fool of yourself?
- acheron 13y agoNo true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
- jf22 13y agoNo True Scotsman is the new Red Herring of abused and misused logical fallacies.