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2003 Boeing 727-223 disappearance
- ndespres 13y agoFascinating entry on the Talk page from the brother of the missing pilot.
- secondhandvape 13y agoI was unable to find the link. Do you mind providing it?
- mnw21cam 13y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2003_Boeing_727-223_disappearance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2003_Boeing_727-223_disapp...
- thescrewdriver 13y agoI don't see any mention of his brother on that page. Am I missing something?
- ndespres 13y agoMy apologies. I wandered down the Wikipedia k-hole on this one and failed to realize it. The page on the pilot was deleted and merged into a section on the article of the event; the Talk page is here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ben_Charles_Padilla&oldid=16519812 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ben_Charles_P...
- davidddavidson 13y agoI don't see any entry from the pilot's brother on there. Am I missing something?
- mzs 13y agondespres is referring to this instead: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ben_Charles_Padilla&oldid=16519812 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ben_Charles_P...
- steve19 13y agothe first thing I though was "does Iran use the 727?". according to Wikipedia they do. Iran goes to great lengths to obtain military aircraft parts. does anyone know if commercial airline parts are also embargoed?
- neurotech1 13y agoCivil aircraft parts are subject to US embargo. There are however, third party suppliers in Russia that can supply parts to Iran. Iran also has domestic parts productions capability. The US Government sometimes allows limited parts supplies as part of ongoing negotiations.
- brc 13y agoI think they would just buy the parts on the black market rather than steal entire planes. As a lot of these old airliners are used throughout the third-world, I'm sure there is a brisk trade in parts. The story itself says they raided another crashed plane for the parts, and that the only thing worth anything on the plane was the engines. Personally I vote for insurance fraud as (1), then theft for parts as (2). Either case doesn't need a 'proper' landing (ie, one where the plane has to take off again). I'm sure there are plenty of places where you could put a plane down if you didn't need to get it back up again, and then strip it for parts. I'm sure the fuselage will turn up somewhere, someday.
- binarymax 13y ago...and the tracking transponder was turned off. That is interesting. I would have guessed that it be impossible to turn off the transponder on a commercial grade aircraft.
- mikeash 13y agoWhat if it starts blasting out interference, or catches on fire? Everything needs a power switch.
- stcredzero 13y agoNot having a power switch contributed to an electrical fire on Swissair MDM-11 planes with an upgraded 1st class entertainment system. The entertainment system did not have an off switch, it had bad thermal engineering, and a form of wiring insulation turned out to not be self-extinguishing in real life.
- phire 13y agoEasy as, the pilots are required to turn the transponder off as soon as they land, so planes on the ground don't show up on radar.
- durandal1 13y agoYes - even worse, having it on close to the runway will trigger TCAS alerts for aircraft on final approach.
- kevin_nisbet 13y agoI also remember in one of the mayday episodes, that on one aircraft the transponder control was somehow near the foot rest. So it was very common for pilots on this model aircraft to accidentally disable or change transponder codes when they put their feet on the foot rest. Sorry I don't remember which aircraft model or episode this was.
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- makmanalp 13y agoCool in-depth story about this: http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/the-727-that-vanished-2371187/?all http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/the-727-that-va... You really get a sense of how parts of Africa is like the wild west.
- brc 13y agoThat was an exceedingly difficult article to read and understand. I've read a few of these lately - more characters and subplots than a period drama. I am not sure what the solution to the writing dilemma is - exclude everything but a couple of people central to the story, fill in the rest with sidebars, work in an info-graphic...not sure.
- auctiontheory 13y agoWhat a fascinating story. It's like the difference between startup life and working for IBM or someplace.
- easytiger 13y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABen_Charles_Padilla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABen_Charles_Padilla > Yes, I am Joseph B. Padilla, SR. I live in Pensacola, Florida - U.S.A. I am the Brother of Ben Charles Padilla Jr.
- scott_karana 13y agoFor those that missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ben_Charles_Padilla&oldid=599085844 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ben_Charles_P...
- taknil 13y agoIn 2009 a boing 737 originating out of Venezuela was purposefully crashed landed in the sahara desert to transport massive amounts of cocaine. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8364383.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8364383.stm It is rumored that more planes were landed in the desert for similar purposes. Maybe the 727 was used as a one-way drug plane thereafter too?
- cc439 13y agoIt seems like they landed it fine but either crashed trying to take off again or just went overboard in demolishing it (when they had 10 tons of cocaine I think they might have been a bit exuberant): http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i6w-doyjewoRGhOaaAHVYfrVWONQ http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i6w-doyje...
- alexeisadeski3 13y agoNo one says how much fuel was on the 'stolen' 727? Seems an important piece of information.
- debt 13y agoThis seems like a hijack and the Malaysian incident seems like a hijack. How are there not satellite photos of the plane changing course and landing on a freighter or something? That's got to pop on a satellite image somewhere.
- neurotech1 13y agoOnly the smallest civilian turboprop aircraft would have any hope of landing on a flat-top freighter without arresting gear. Even a BAe-146 would require too much landing distance. A Boeing 777 would be much safer ditching close by a freighter and awaiting rescue of passengers from life rafts. A US Navy Cruiser (Aegis type) has a maximum radar tracking range of about 200-300NM for an airliner. If they were tracking MH370 then they'd have a good idea where it went down. When AF447 disappeared, there was little Naval activity in the region. When TWA800 went down, the US Navy turned over volumes of radar data to investigators that somewhat confirmed how the aircraft broke apart.
- dragonwriter 13y ago> How are there not satellite photos of the plane changing course and landing on a freighter or something? (1) Because a 777 has only a slightly better chance of landing on a freighter as a snowball has of landing -- still frozen -- on the surface of the sun, and (2) Because there isn't satellite video being recorded of every point on the Earth's surface, including the oceans, 24/7, contrary to what one might infer from certain kinds of (deliberately fictional) movies and TV shows.
- debt 13y agoI guess I didn't mean it literally landed on a freighter, but something similar; like a small island or something. But it looks like it would've popped up on somebodies radar at some point before it landed.
- stcredzero 13y agoA private plane was stolen from a friend of mine from a hangar in Texas. I think it showed up for sale as a salvage plane with its wings removed. Considering how valuable aircraft are, it seems a bit too economical to bribe hangar personnel.
- thomasfoster96 13y agoPress Y PRESS Y GODAMMIT PRESS Y
- brc 13y ago[wrong parent - deleted]