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Show HN: Softcover – A publishing platform from the author of the Rails Tutorial

208 points by mhartl 13y ago

HistoryInAction 13y ago
Interesting, especially in context of the FG Press announcement. Good luck!
- mhartl 13y ago
  Thanks!
benatkin 13y ago
I saw this go to the second page. I don't think it's enough to link to https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest rather than the story from twitter to avoid being penalized. I think saying that it's on Hacker News might be the way to promote it without getting penalized. I think this is right up HN's alley though so I expect it to stay on HN for half a day. :)
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markbates 13y ago
Congratulations on the launch. As the first author on the platform, http://conqueringthecommandline.com http://conqueringthecommandline.com, and as the author of two other books (http://books.markbates.com http://books.markbates.com), I can say that this was the easiest, and nicest tool chain I've worked with. It took me from saying "I'm never going to write another book again" to "I have so many books I want to write now!".
- webwanderings 13y ago
  Very nicely done. Just finished reading the whole. Hope you'd write the sequel.
  - markbates 13y ago
    Glad to hear you like it.
avolcano 13y ago
Seems like an alternative to https://leanpub.com/ https://leanpub.com/ with much better design. I'm very impressed.
- Anjin 13y ago
  Thanks, I manage the front-end design and development so hearing that warms my heart!
  - jimhart3000 13y ago
    As the frontend dev, any insight as to why you didn't go responsive with this? It's a nice looking site and you did a great job, but I'm surprised - since this is a publishing platform that obviously caters to multiple devices - to not see a device-agnostic approach to the site.
    - Anjin 13y ago
      It's on the way! Long answer: Over the course of development there had been some thought as to whether or not the Softcover site would just be an informational site for the Softcover gem and a place for authors to get their sales stats, and then each book page would be its own separate thing that would be more or less fully-customizable by the author. Point is that most people would have had to be interacting with the site on a desktop because that's where they'd need to do things like install gems and run the server. We've kind of moved away from the idea of having a Myspace free-for-all, towards something that is more of a designed garden, planning on allowing a good deal of customization on the book side – each book page loads a completely separate stylesheet from what is used on the rest of the site for that reason. With that I'm going to be focusing on redoing a lot of the presentation side to meet what we'll need, and a part of that will be responsive styling.
      - jimhart3000 13y ago
        Thanks for the answer. That's good reasoning; I figured as well as this all seemed put together it wasn't "oh, geez, didn't think of that!" so I'm glad to see there was a reason. :)
prateekj 13y ago
Looks like a nice product! Congrats on the launch. One of the main concerns for any new book is marketing. Are you planning to address this issue?
- mhartl 13y ago
  The Softcover sales platform includes a marketing page with slots for author bio, testimonials, FAQs, etc. (See, for example, Mark Bates's marketing page at http://conqueringthecommandline.com/ http://conqueringthecommandline.com/) Softcover also supports an optional free HTML version of your book, which can be a great marketing tool. Finally, we are planning to develop a step-by-step "Marketing Wizard" to give authors detailed advice and guidance in their marketing efforts.
  - thaweatherman 13y ago
    Do authors have the option of providing a book preview for free online rather than the entire thing? Or does that feature only allow for the entire book to be made free online?
    - mhartl 13y ago
      Yes, Softcover has integrated support for making downloadable previews. In addition, currently the HTML version has to be either 100% free or 100% behind a paywall, but we plan to add the capability to make select HTML preview chapters available as well.
Ash-k 13y ago
This is cool.. congratulation
rastokes 13y ago
Is the logo an ouroboros?
- Anjin 13y ago
  It is! Idea was to signify our desire to consume traditional publishing with a new publishing model. Publishing eating publishing.
  - peterarmstrong 13y ago
    "New publishing model"? You could have just used a photocopier.
    - bowerbird 13y ago
      now, now, peter, let's not get cranky. :+) you've seen other competitors before, and will probably see a whole lot more, and all of them won't be as incompetent as those you have faced down in the past. ok, for those of you who might not know, peter is the force behind leanpub.com... which is highly similar to this site, but has been around for a few years already. so, no, this is not a "new" model, and there _will_ be similar tool-chains that will come soon, and i can guarantee it, because i'll be releasing one that i've been working on for over a _decade_ now. but we do not need internal squabbling, because killing corporate publishers is gonna be hard, no matter how many of us are committed and dedicated to doing it. yes, they are dinosaurs, and yes, they _will_ go extinct, eventually, even if we do absolutely nothing. but they are also dinosaurs with _very_ deep pockets, and that's a significant factor in the greedy money-ruled world we have today. so welcome to the revolution, softcover. strap on a helmet, and let's get to work. -bowerbird
callmeed 13y ago
I remember meeting Michael Hartl in the airport prior to RailsConf a couple years ago. Great guy & I recall he mentioned this idea. Nice to see it launch–best of luck!
- mhartl 13y ago
  Thanks, Erik! I remember that meeting fondly—in line at Long Beach Airport en route to Austin, if I recall correctly. I hope all is well!
rafeed 13y ago
This is awesome! Well defined, and I like the design and intro video. I wish there were something like this for writing journal articles. Right now, it's a total pain.
acangiano 13y ago
This is very interesting and well done. I have a few questions. 1. Am I allowed to sell the files elsewhere? For example, sell the .mobi file on Amazon Kindle and publish a printed version via CreateSpace. 2. Are the files watermarked at all with Softcover's branding? 3. Is this open to authors everywhere or are there restrictions? 4. Will this handle sale taxes for authors? I'm a Canadian author with a PST/GST account, will I be able to collect that from Canadian customers? PS: The Browse and Setup links on conqueringthecommandline.com are meant to point to softcover.io, so they are broken at the moment.
- mhartl 13y ago
  Great questions, Antonio. I've just deployed an update to the front page at http://www.softcover.io/ http://www.softcover.io/ answering some of them, but for convenience I'll answer them below as well. 1. Am I allowed to sell the files elsewhere? For example, sell the .mobi file on Amazon Kindle and publish a printed version via CreateSpace. Yes, you retain copyright on everything you make and can do anything you want with the files. They get built on your system by Softcover's open-source toolchain, so you have complete control. 2. Are the files watermarked at all with Softcover's branding? No, the books have no Softcover branding. The online version has an inconspicuous Softcover-branded footer by default, but even that can be removed with a simple config setting, as described in the manual (http://manual.softcover.io/book/marketing#additional_information http://manual.softcover.io/book/marketing#additional_informa...). 3. Is this open to authors everywhere or are there restrictions? Softcover is open to anyone, and there are no restrictions. 4. Will this handle sale taxes for authors? I'm a Canadian author with a PST/GST account, will I able to collect that from Canadian customers? I don't know about this one. If you join the [Softcover Google Group](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing), I'll introduce you to my cofounder Nick Merwin, who is in charge of stuff like this. If we don't currently support collecting Canadian sales tax, we might be able to add it.
  - acangiano 13y ago
    Thank you, Michael. I joined the group.
taylorlapeyre 13y ago
This has the potential to become the definitive way to publish and buy books online. Amazingly well done.
aalpbalkan 13y ago
Congrats, looks good. Will it remain free? What will be the restrictions in the future.
- mhartl 13y ago
  Thanks! The Softcover production system is available for free as open-source software under the permissive MIT License. Softcover just takes a cut of sales, so we only make money when you make money.
thaweatherman 13y ago
I love it! One comment I do have though is that the space alloted to the video on the page is quite large. Larger than the default zoom in Firefox at least. While it isn't a huge deal to not be able to see the whole picture and there is a full screen button, it might be helpful to some to make the video smaller on the page.
- mhartl 13y ago
  Thanks! I think the video issue has been fixed. Let me know if you still run into trouble.
- Anjin 13y ago
  Yeah... I wanted to do a big full screen stretching video. But probably easier to constrain it. Changed!
siculars 13y ago
Congrats on the launch. Looks great and is tempting me to take a real stab at writing I've always flirted with. Q: is there planned integration with print? Could you send out text to a printer and get an actual book made? DO you have relationships with any printers?
- mhartl 13y ago
  Thanks! Glad it looks tempting. We've definitely looked into print. It's a tough nut to crack, and the ecosystem might not be mature enough yet for automatic integration. Lulu, for example, built an API, but not enough people used it, so they closed it to new developers. I'd love to offer a print solution at some point, though, so we'll keep an eagle eye on it. In any case, the Softcover production system uses LaTeX, which is designed to make print-quality PDFs. The default output is optimized for tablets, but adapting it to a print-ready version is fairly straightforward. I expect we'll incorporate that into the typesetting system at some point. But unfortunately right now you'll have to do a lot of work by hand no matter which production system you use.
mikekij 13y ago
@mhartl FTW! Great work. Kind of reminds me of a LaTeX for the web. Source code files -> properly formatted documents. I may use this in a future project. Looks awesome!
barkingcat 13y ago
I'm running into error with "softcover server" not sure if it's my set up or if it's something in softcover. I'm on os x, using ruby 193
- mhartl 13y ago
  Sorry for the inconvenience. If you join the [Softcover Google Group](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing) and post the error message there, I'll take a look and see if we can figure it out.
rpicard 13y ago
I'm so excited about this! I'm currently drafting the last few chapters for Explore Flask (web development book funded via Kickstarter) and the whole self-publishing process is a mess when it comes to formatting. It looks like the Markdown + Latex solution with things like boxes, code blocks and tables pre-configured is an awesome way to do things. I'm almost certainly going to switch to this toolchain from pandoc. I'll also look into using the sales / hosting platform too. I'm a little hesitant to put that in someone else's hands, but you guys have done such a great job that I'll probably end up giving in. Can't wait to start working with this!
- mhartl 13y ago
  Great to hear it! Don't worry about sales & hosting platform; Softcover supports custom domains, so you're never locked in. You could switch your domain over to your own website at any time. I just know from experience what a pain it can be, so we figure lots of people will be happy to pay a small percentage in exchange for the convenience of not having to build and maintain everything yourself.
infocollector 13y ago
Very cool project. Just in case if people are interested in Python for something like this, I've been using some code to do this (slides): http://bit.ly/pythonclass http://bit.ly/pythonclass - Its in alpha and I've been using this to teach my python class. Haven't pushed it to github/bitbucket, but I would love to share (or work together with others) if there is demand.
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lizk 13y ago
This is awesome!
desireco42 13y ago
This looks amazing and further increases my respect for Michael Hartl. I don't really have publishing intentions, yet making this as seamless as it is should allow people who have talent and desire to publish their works easily. I see that Michael is answering questions here, so here is one. If someone decides to publish... let's skip anarchy, let's say erotic and porn novels, is this still game? Now that I think this through, someone can use toolchain and get their stuff published anyway, I would just like to know, where are boundaries of your service?
- mhartl 13y ago
  Thanks for the kind words. We might not choose to highlight titles that could invite controversy (especially not early on), but our intent is to produce a flexible publishing tool that is limited only by the imagination of the author. If that imagination includes, e.g., erotica, I wouldn't in principle have any objections, especially if (as I would generally recommend to most authors) they opted to use a custom domain name.
ogdenyogly 13y ago
Bookmarked this for when I complete my novel :)
- Anjin 13y ago
  I know you are joking a bit, but if you were really thinking about jumping into writing a novel, being able to publish nicely formatted HTML chapters as you write them for free to people is a great way to get people interested from an early stage. It's a model that has worked in the past for some people, including this recent example I heard about on NPR: http://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/02/14/2014/andy-weir-the-martian.html http://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/02/14/2014/andy-weir-th... He slowly published each chapter, then when he finally finished the book, he posted the ebook versions for free on his site. Eventually he added it to Amazon (and had to attach a price to it because they don't let you give away ebooks) to help people load the ebook onto their Kindle with less friction than making them download and transfer the file, he found that he was selling more copies of the book than he was giving away for free on his site. It's exactly that model of openly sharing what you are working on with the people that are going to use or be entertained by it that we want Softcover to encourage.
  - bowerbird 13y ago
    thanks for point to that, i hadn't seen it before, and it's a great example of the experience many have had, namely that giving away an e-book can spur sales of it. -bowerbird
yixizhang 13y ago
Backend has become simple enough that you wouldn't have to pay much attention. The great design of this website has anything specific to do with its Rails backend?
habosa 13y ago
This looks excellent, congrats on the launch. Also if anyone out there hasn't read Michael's Rails Tutorial, read it now. The best and most thorough tutorial I have ever read on any topic, it opened my eyes to modern web programming.
the4dpatrick 13y ago
Congrats on launching! Reminded of when of a youtube video where you talked about this idea and how you solved your money problems through the rails tutorial.
globalpanic 13y ago
How does this differ from leanpub?
- mhartl 13y ago
  Softcover is based on the Rails Tutorial model, which differs from Leanpub in several key ways. I actually think Leanpub is a great service if it meets all of your needs as an author, and in fact if it had met all of my needs I might not have bothered building Softcover. (Of course, Leanpub didn't exist when I first started publishing the Rails Tutorial in 2009, but I might have used it for follow-on products.) Here are some of the important differences: - Softcover comes with an industrial-strength, open-source production system. This means you can write heavily formatted books with cross-references, code listings, tables, etc., and interactively build them locally, all without being locked in to a proprietary system. - Softcover's HTML books are first-class citizens. The online version of the Rails Tutorial is a key part of its marketing strategy, so it has to be polished and prominent. - Softcover gives you your customer list. Letting customers opt-in to share their email is fine for more casual authors, but it isn't ideal if (like me) you're trying to build a business. - Softcover supports custom domains. It's important to me to use a custom domain for branding/SEO and so that I own my own traffic.
hrjet 13y ago
This looks great. I was not able to find out myself: Where is the source-code hosted?
- Anjin 13y ago
  That is totally up to you. You can write your book and push changes to GitHub, store the book files in your Dropbox directory, tempt fate and just store them locally, etc. Softcover just pulls in the HTML and eBooks that are compiled from the source code, as well as the book config files, and generates the views and links.
  - hrjet 13y ago
    Thanks for that info, but my question was about the source code of Softcover itself.
macobo 13y ago
Awesome. I'll look into this when writing my thesis.
ryderm 13y ago
This is very well put together, and makes me excited about the possibility of writing in the future. mhartl, I did your rails tutorial a few years ago with very little programming background, and it singlehandedly got me interested in programming enough to switch majors and spend all my time learning and building things. Thanks, and congrats on the launch!
- mhartl 13y ago
  Awesome, glad to hear it!
marukokinno 13y ago
Congratulations! Will use it. By the way, thank you very much, Mr. Hartl, for the rails tutorial. It was life changing for me, a former completely non-tech guy, now running my customs brokerage business trough a collaborative database tool horribly coded by me myself :) edit: misspell
marukokinno 13y ago
I noticed that when changing from one chapter page to another, it loads much faster than the original rails tutorial, that takes forever. Nice improvement, still note a little latency though. It will be nice for people to study the Rails Tutorial Book when published on Softcover's new platform. Is going to happen?
- mhartl 13y ago
  There is already a version of the Rails Tutorial book that builds on Softcover, and in the coming weeks I plan to move the full tutorial over to the Softcover platform (taking care to preserve things like legacy download links). Watch for an announcement once the change-over is complete.

208 points by mhartl 13y ago

HistoryInAction 13y ago

Interesting, especially in context of the FG Press announcement. Good luck!

mhartl 13y ago
Thanks!

benatkin 13y ago

I saw this go to the second page. I don't think it's enough to link to https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest rather than the story from twitter to avoid being penalized. I think saying that it's on Hacker News might be the way to promote it without getting penalized. I think this is right up HN's alley though so I expect it to stay on HN for half a day. :)

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markbates 13y ago

Congratulations on the launch. As the first author on the platform, http://conqueringthecommandline.com http://conqueringthecommandline.com, and as the author of two other books (http://books.markbates.com http://books.markbates.com), I can say that this was the easiest, and nicest tool chain I've worked with. It took me from saying "I'm never going to write another book again" to "I have so many books I want to write now!".

webwanderings 13y ago
Very nicely done. Just finished reading the whole. Hope you'd write the sequel.
- markbates 13y ago
  Glad to hear you like it.

avolcano 13y ago

Seems like an alternative to https://leanpub.com/ https://leanpub.com/ with much better design. I'm very impressed.

Anjin 13y ago
Thanks, I manage the front-end design and development so hearing that warms my heart!
- jimhart3000 13y ago
  As the frontend dev, any insight as to why you didn't go responsive with this? It's a nice looking site and you did a great job, but I'm surprised - since this is a publishing platform that obviously caters to multiple devices - to not see a device-agnostic approach to the site.
  - Anjin 13y ago
    It's on the way! Long answer: Over the course of development there had been some thought as to whether or not the Softcover site would just be an informational site for the Softcover gem and a place for authors to get their sales stats, and then each book page would be its own separate thing that would be more or less fully-customizable by the author. Point is that most people would have had to be interacting with the site on a desktop because that's where they'd need to do things like install gems and run the server. We've kind of moved away from the idea of having a Myspace free-for-all, towards something that is more of a designed garden, planning on allowing a good deal of customization on the book side – each book page loads a completely separate stylesheet from what is used on the rest of the site for that reason. With that I'm going to be focusing on redoing a lot of the presentation side to meet what we'll need, and a part of that will be responsive styling.
    - jimhart3000 13y ago
      Thanks for the answer. That's good reasoning; I figured as well as this all seemed put together it wasn't "oh, geez, didn't think of that!" so I'm glad to see there was a reason. :)

prateekj 13y ago

Looks like a nice product! Congrats on the launch. One of the main concerns for any new book is marketing. Are you planning to address this issue?

mhartl 13y ago
The Softcover sales platform includes a marketing page with slots for author bio, testimonials, FAQs, etc. (See, for example, Mark Bates's marketing page at http://conqueringthecommandline.com/ http://conqueringthecommandline.com/) Softcover also supports an optional free HTML version of your book, which can be a great marketing tool. Finally, we are planning to develop a step-by-step "Marketing Wizard" to give authors detailed advice and guidance in their marketing efforts.
- thaweatherman 13y ago
  Do authors have the option of providing a book preview for free online rather than the entire thing? Or does that feature only allow for the entire book to be made free online?
  - mhartl 13y ago
    Yes, Softcover has integrated support for making downloadable previews. In addition, currently the HTML version has to be either 100% free or 100% behind a paywall, but we plan to add the capability to make select HTML preview chapters available as well.

Ash-k 13y ago

This is cool.. congratulation

rastokes 13y ago

Is the logo an ouroboros?

Anjin 13y ago
It is! Idea was to signify our desire to consume traditional publishing with a new publishing model. Publishing eating publishing.
- peterarmstrong 13y ago
  "New publishing model"? You could have just used a photocopier.
  - bowerbird 13y ago
    now, now, peter, let's not get cranky. :+) you've seen other competitors before, and will probably see a whole lot more, and all of them won't be as incompetent as those you have faced down in the past. ok, for those of you who might not know, peter is the force behind leanpub.com... which is highly similar to this site, but has been around for a few years already. so, no, this is not a "new" model, and there _will_ be similar tool-chains that will come soon, and i can guarantee it, because i'll be releasing one that i've been working on for over a _decade_ now. but we do not need internal squabbling, because killing corporate publishers is gonna be hard, no matter how many of us are committed and dedicated to doing it. yes, they are dinosaurs, and yes, they _will_ go extinct, eventually, even if we do absolutely nothing. but they are also dinosaurs with _very_ deep pockets, and that's a significant factor in the greedy money-ruled world we have today. so welcome to the revolution, softcover. strap on a helmet, and let's get to work. -bowerbird

callmeed 13y ago

I remember meeting Michael Hartl in the airport prior to RailsConf a couple years ago. Great guy & I recall he mentioned this idea. Nice to see it launch–best of luck!

mhartl 13y ago
Thanks, Erik! I remember that meeting fondly—in line at Long Beach Airport en route to Austin, if I recall correctly. I hope all is well!

rafeed 13y ago

This is awesome! Well defined, and I like the design and intro video. I wish there were something like this for writing journal articles. Right now, it's a total pain.

acangiano 13y ago

This is very interesting and well done. I have a few questions. 1. Am I allowed to sell the files elsewhere? For example, sell the .mobi file on Amazon Kindle and publish a printed version via CreateSpace. 2. Are the files watermarked at all with Softcover's branding? 3. Is this open to authors everywhere or are there restrictions? 4. Will this handle sale taxes for authors? I'm a Canadian author with a PST/GST account, will I be able to collect that from Canadian customers? PS: The Browse and Setup links on conqueringthecommandline.com are meant to point to softcover.io, so they are broken at the moment.

mhartl 13y ago
Great questions, Antonio. I've just deployed an update to the front page at http://www.softcover.io/ http://www.softcover.io/ answering some of them, but for convenience I'll answer them below as well. 1. Am I allowed to sell the files elsewhere? For example, sell the .mobi file on Amazon Kindle and publish a printed version via CreateSpace. Yes, you retain copyright on everything you make and can do anything you want with the files. They get built on your system by Softcover's open-source toolchain, so you have complete control. 2. Are the files watermarked at all with Softcover's branding? No, the books have no Softcover branding. The online version has an inconspicuous Softcover-branded footer by default, but even that can be removed with a simple config setting, as described in the manual (http://manual.softcover.io/book/marketing#additional_information http://manual.softcover.io/book/marketing#additional_informa...). 3. Is this open to authors everywhere or are there restrictions? Softcover is open to anyone, and there are no restrictions. 4. Will this handle sale taxes for authors? I'm a Canadian author with a PST/GST account, will I able to collect that from Canadian customers? I don't know about this one. If you join the [Softcover Google Group](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing), I'll introduce you to my cofounder Nick Merwin, who is in charge of stuff like this. If we don't currently support collecting Canadian sales tax, we might be able to add it.
- acangiano 13y ago
  Thank you, Michael. I joined the group.

taylorlapeyre 13y ago

This has the potential to become the definitive way to publish and buy books online. Amazingly well done.

aalpbalkan 13y ago

Congrats, looks good. Will it remain free? What will be the restrictions in the future.

mhartl 13y ago
Thanks! The Softcover production system is available for free as open-source software under the permissive MIT License. Softcover just takes a cut of sales, so we only make money when you make money.

thaweatherman 13y ago

I love it! One comment I do have though is that the space alloted to the video on the page is quite large. Larger than the default zoom in Firefox at least. While it isn't a huge deal to not be able to see the whole picture and there is a full screen button, it might be helpful to some to make the video smaller on the page.

mhartl 13y ago
Thanks! I think the video issue has been fixed. Let me know if you still run into trouble.
Anjin 13y ago
Yeah... I wanted to do a big full screen stretching video. But probably easier to constrain it. Changed!

siculars 13y ago

Congrats on the launch. Looks great and is tempting me to take a real stab at writing I've always flirted with. Q: is there planned integration with print? Could you send out text to a printer and get an actual book made? DO you have relationships with any printers?

mhartl 13y ago
Thanks! Glad it looks tempting. We've definitely looked into print. It's a tough nut to crack, and the ecosystem might not be mature enough yet for automatic integration. Lulu, for example, built an API, but not enough people used it, so they closed it to new developers. I'd love to offer a print solution at some point, though, so we'll keep an eagle eye on it. In any case, the Softcover production system uses LaTeX, which is designed to make print-quality PDFs. The default output is optimized for tablets, but adapting it to a print-ready version is fairly straightforward. I expect we'll incorporate that into the typesetting system at some point. But unfortunately right now you'll have to do a lot of work by hand no matter which production system you use.

mikekij 13y ago

@mhartl FTW! Great work. Kind of reminds me of a LaTeX for the web. Source code files -> properly formatted documents. I may use this in a future project. Looks awesome!

barkingcat 13y ago

I'm running into error with "softcover server" not sure if it's my set up or if it's something in softcover. I'm on os x, using ruby 193

mhartl 13y ago
Sorry for the inconvenience. If you join the [Softcover Google Group](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/softcover-publishing) and post the error message there, I'll take a look and see if we can figure it out.

rpicard 13y ago

I'm so excited about this! I'm currently drafting the last few chapters for Explore Flask (web development book funded via Kickstarter) and the whole self-publishing process is a mess when it comes to formatting. It looks like the Markdown + Latex solution with things like boxes, code blocks and tables pre-configured is an awesome way to do things. I'm almost certainly going to switch to this toolchain from pandoc. I'll also look into using the sales / hosting platform too. I'm a little hesitant to put that in someone else's hands, but you guys have done such a great job that I'll probably end up giving in. Can't wait to start working with this!

mhartl 13y ago
Great to hear it! Don't worry about sales & hosting platform; Softcover supports custom domains, so you're never locked in. You could switch your domain over to your own website at any time. I just know from experience what a pain it can be, so we figure lots of people will be happy to pay a small percentage in exchange for the convenience of not having to build and maintain everything yourself.

infocollector 13y ago

Very cool project. Just in case if people are interested in Python for something like this, I've been using some code to do this (slides): http://bit.ly/pythonclass http://bit.ly/pythonclass - Its in alpha and I've been using this to teach my python class. Haven't pushed it to github/bitbucket, but I would love to share (or work together with others) if there is demand.

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lizk 13y ago

This is awesome!

desireco42 13y ago

This looks amazing and further increases my respect for Michael Hartl. I don't really have publishing intentions, yet making this as seamless as it is should allow people who have talent and desire to publish their works easily. I see that Michael is answering questions here, so here is one. If someone decides to publish... let's skip anarchy, let's say erotic and porn novels, is this still game? Now that I think this through, someone can use toolchain and get their stuff published anyway, I would just like to know, where are boundaries of your service?

mhartl 13y ago
Thanks for the kind words. We might not choose to highlight titles that could invite controversy (especially not early on), but our intent is to produce a flexible publishing tool that is limited only by the imagination of the author. If that imagination includes, e.g., erotica, I wouldn't in principle have any objections, especially if (as I would generally recommend to most authors) they opted to use a custom domain name.

ogdenyogly 13y ago

Bookmarked this for when I complete my novel :)

Anjin 13y ago
I know you are joking a bit, but if you were really thinking about jumping into writing a novel, being able to publish nicely formatted HTML chapters as you write them for free to people is a great way to get people interested from an early stage. It's a model that has worked in the past for some people, including this recent example I heard about on NPR: http://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/02/14/2014/andy-weir-the-martian.html http://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/02/14/2014/andy-weir-th... He slowly published each chapter, then when he finally finished the book, he posted the ebook versions for free on his site. Eventually he added it to Amazon (and had to attach a price to it because they don't let you give away ebooks) to help people load the ebook onto their Kindle with less friction than making them download and transfer the file, he found that he was selling more copies of the book than he was giving away for free on his site. It's exactly that model of openly sharing what you are working on with the people that are going to use or be entertained by it that we want Softcover to encourage.
- bowerbird 13y ago
  thanks for point to that, i hadn't seen it before, and it's a great example of the experience many have had, namely that giving away an e-book can spur sales of it. -bowerbird

yixizhang 13y ago

Backend has become simple enough that you wouldn't have to pay much attention. The great design of this website has anything specific to do with its Rails backend?

habosa 13y ago

This looks excellent, congrats on the launch. Also if anyone out there hasn't read Michael's Rails Tutorial, read it now. The best and most thorough tutorial I have ever read on any topic, it opened my eyes to modern web programming.

the4dpatrick 13y ago

Congrats on launching! Reminded of when of a youtube video where you talked about this idea and how you solved your money problems through the rails tutorial.

globalpanic 13y ago

How does this differ from leanpub?

mhartl 13y ago
Softcover is based on the Rails Tutorial model, which differs from Leanpub in several key ways. I actually think Leanpub is a great service if it meets all of your needs as an author, and in fact if it had met all of my needs I might not have bothered building Softcover. (Of course, Leanpub didn't exist when I first started publishing the Rails Tutorial in 2009, but I might have used it for follow-on products.) Here are some of the important differences: - Softcover comes with an industrial-strength, open-source production system. This means you can write heavily formatted books with cross-references, code listings, tables, etc., and interactively build them locally, all without being locked in to a proprietary system. - Softcover's HTML books are first-class citizens. The online version of the Rails Tutorial is a key part of its marketing strategy, so it has to be polished and prominent. - Softcover gives you your customer list. Letting customers opt-in to share their email is fine for more casual authors, but it isn't ideal if (like me) you're trying to build a business. - Softcover supports custom domains. It's important to me to use a custom domain for branding/SEO and so that I own my own traffic.

hrjet 13y ago

This looks great. I was not able to find out myself: Where is the source-code hosted?

Anjin 13y ago
That is totally up to you. You can write your book and push changes to GitHub, store the book files in your Dropbox directory, tempt fate and just store them locally, etc. Softcover just pulls in the HTML and eBooks that are compiled from the source code, as well as the book config files, and generates the views and links.
- hrjet 13y ago
  Thanks for that info, but my question was about the source code of Softcover itself.

macobo 13y ago

Awesome. I'll look into this when writing my thesis.

ryderm 13y ago

This is very well put together, and makes me excited about the possibility of writing in the future. mhartl, I did your rails tutorial a few years ago with very little programming background, and it singlehandedly got me interested in programming enough to switch majors and spend all my time learning and building things. Thanks, and congrats on the launch!

mhartl 13y ago
Awesome, glad to hear it!

marukokinno 13y ago

Congratulations! Will use it. By the way, thank you very much, Mr. Hartl, for the rails tutorial. It was life changing for me, a former completely non-tech guy, now running my customs brokerage business trough a collaborative database tool horribly coded by me myself :) edit: misspell

marukokinno 13y ago

I noticed that when changing from one chapter page to another, it loads much faster than the original rails tutorial, that takes forever. Nice improvement, still note a little latency though. It will be nice for people to study the Rails Tutorial Book when published on Softcover's new platform. Is going to happen?

mhartl 13y ago
There is already a version of the Rails Tutorial book that builds on Softcover, and in the coming weeks I plan to move the full tutorial over to the Softcover platform (taking care to preserve things like legacy download links). Watch for an announcement once the change-over is complete.