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That's a mindlessly simplistic view of it. Do you seriously think HTC corporate hierarchy is going to change their policy on protecting IP and apologize to a pe

by gph 13y ago

That's a mindlessly simplistic view of it. Do you seriously think HTC corporate hierarchy is going to change their policy on protecting IP and apologize to a person who unlawfully disseminated information on their products just to please the 10's of people that might be outraged over this? You can't please all the people all the time. Sometimes the customer is an idiot not worth your time.

smokinjoe 13y ago
They will if this person represents a significant portion of their revenue - just like any action taken by a large company. At least Chris put his opinions out there in public. All too often people complain about a company in every single medium except for one that may actually make it to a relevant recipient. ..Which is also why I hope he also has sent this directly to HTC. I know Hacker News is read by quite a few [important] people in tech, but unless he also directs it to the proper avenues this rant will have as much effectiveness as someone complaining at a bar.
pbhjpbhj 13y ago
>apologize to a person who unlawfully disseminated information on their products // Can you expand on this - I watched the video, what part was unlawful (stating the jurisdiction and legislation/caselaw that apply would help)?
- victorhooi 13y ago
  Dude - it's stolen property, plain and simple. Can you think of a jurisdiction where that's not illegal? Lol. The kid either stole it, or he somehow knowingly came into possession of stolen property. Just because you find something, doesn't make it yours. The right thing to do, when you find something that is obviously stolen (and there is no way an NDA phone would not be) is to return it. Stealing something is illegal, and buying something that's stolen is also illegal. It's like Gawker, and the whole stolen iPhone fiasco. Much as I detest Apple, Gawker were definitely in the wrong there. And this kid didn't help things by trying to lie again, and again, and again afterwards. Just say, whoops, I "didn't" know it was stolen, and hand it back - no harm, no foul. Trying to weasel your way out so you can keep your stolen shiny bauble isn't cool.
  - pbhjpbhj 13y ago
    >buying something that's stolen is also illegal // Usually that's limited to "if you know it, [or should reasonably suspect it] to be stolen". I can imagine many scenarios in which he used the phone in the video without it being stolen, and more in which it was stolen and he wasn't aware of that. "Hey my Dad found this phone left at his work, he's taking it to the Police Station in the morning; do you want to have a look at it?" "I won this phone in a game of poker, want to buy it?" However, I thought you were claiming it was illegal to make the video.
serge2k 13y ago
How did he break the law?

by gph 13y ago

smokinjoe 13y ago

They will if this person represents a significant portion of their revenue - just like any action taken by a large company. At least Chris put his opinions out there in public. All too often people complain about a company in every single medium except for one that may actually make it to a relevant recipient. ..Which is also why I hope he also has sent this directly to HTC. I know Hacker News is read by quite a few [important] people in tech, but unless he also directs it to the proper avenues this rant will have as much effectiveness as someone complaining at a bar.

pbhjpbhj 13y ago

>apologize to a person who unlawfully disseminated information on their products // Can you expand on this - I watched the video, what part was unlawful (stating the jurisdiction and legislation/caselaw that apply would help)?

victorhooi 13y ago
Dude - it's stolen property, plain and simple. Can you think of a jurisdiction where that's not illegal? Lol. The kid either stole it, or he somehow knowingly came into possession of stolen property. Just because you find something, doesn't make it yours. The right thing to do, when you find something that is obviously stolen (and there is no way an NDA phone would not be) is to return it. Stealing something is illegal, and buying something that's stolen is also illegal. It's like Gawker, and the whole stolen iPhone fiasco. Much as I detest Apple, Gawker were definitely in the wrong there. And this kid didn't help things by trying to lie again, and again, and again afterwards. Just say, whoops, I "didn't" know it was stolen, and hand it back - no harm, no foul. Trying to weasel your way out so you can keep your stolen shiny bauble isn't cool.
- pbhjpbhj 13y ago
  >buying something that's stolen is also illegal // Usually that's limited to "if you know it, [or should reasonably suspect it] to be stolen". I can imagine many scenarios in which he used the phone in the video without it being stolen, and more in which it was stolen and he wasn't aware of that. "Hey my Dad found this phone left at his work, he's taking it to the Police Station in the morning; do you want to have a look at it?" "I won this phone in a game of poker, want to buy it?" However, I thought you were claiming it was illegal to make the video.

serge2k 13y ago

How did he break the law?