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you seem to be missing a very critical point in using financial projections. Yeah, apple will keep gaining share in US but guess who will win in the emerging m

by frosty 17y ago

you seem to be missing a very critical point in using financial projections. Yeah, apple will keep gaining share in US but guess who will win in the emerging markets like China, India and Brazil. Microsoft will now start reaping rewards for its years of giving OS for free to these markets (basically by not cracking on piracy). In these countries, its not about coolness or design. Its about the price. Want an example? Guess how many iPhones sold in India?

jemmons 17y ago
Do you even know? Or are you really keen to make us guess?
- blasdel 17y ago
  I've seen numbers stating it's under 20k to date. The midtown Manhattan Apple store probably sells that many in an average week!
GeneralMaximus 17y ago
iPhones are not sold here because they cost about $700. If they were as cheap as they are in the US, everyone would have an iPhone. In India, even the people who don't have the resources to feed themselves own mobile phones. And people do buy Macs here (mostly computer enthusiasts or programmers). You can find many Macs at FOSS conventions (I know, ironic).
- vetinari 17y ago
  The iPhone is not cheap in US. Yes, you don't pay $700/€500 upfront, but you will pay the amount through duration of the contract and by losing the option to switch carriers during the next year or two. The cost is the same, just hidden.
  - anatoli 17y ago
    I don't think you have an understanding of how much people make/stuff costs in India, if you're actually comparing prices of iPhones in US with prices of iPhones in India. Hint: why do you think there's so much outsourcing to India?
kgelner 17y ago
"but guess who will win in the emerging markets like China, India and Brazil." The one with the best mobile OS? Unless Microsoft buys Palm, it's not Microsoft. Sure iPhones are expensive now - but older ones will start reducing in price for markets like India/China - and the iPhone has very good internationalization support, along with a virtual keyboard that is far better at adapting to languages like Chinese for input. You speak of long term but you are only looking at iPhone prices today instead of the fundametals.

by frosty 17y ago

jemmons 17y ago

Do you even know? Or are you really keen to make us guess?

blasdel 17y ago
I've seen numbers stating it's under 20k to date. The midtown Manhattan Apple store probably sells that many in an average week!

GeneralMaximus 17y ago

iPhones are not sold here because they cost about $700. If they were as cheap as they are in the US, everyone would have an iPhone. In India, even the people who don't have the resources to feed themselves own mobile phones. And people do buy Macs here (mostly computer enthusiasts or programmers). You can find many Macs at FOSS conventions (I know, ironic).

vetinari 17y ago
The iPhone is not cheap in US. Yes, you don't pay $700/€500 upfront, but you will pay the amount through duration of the contract and by losing the option to switch carriers during the next year or two. The cost is the same, just hidden.
- anatoli 17y ago
  I don't think you have an understanding of how much people make/stuff costs in India, if you're actually comparing prices of iPhones in US with prices of iPhones in India. Hint: why do you think there's so much outsourcing to India?

kgelner 17y ago

"but guess who will win in the emerging markets like China, India and Brazil." The one with the best mobile OS? Unless Microsoft buys Palm, it's not Microsoft. Sure iPhones are expensive now - but older ones will start reducing in price for markets like India/China - and the iPhone has very good internationalization support, along with a virtual keyboard that is far better at adapting to languages like Chinese for input. You speak of long term but you are only looking at iPhone prices today instead of the fundametals.