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The Job After Steve Jobs: Tim Cook and Apple

77 points by spking 13y ago

LukeB_UK 13y ago
A very good read. I've read Jobs' biography so I gained an insight into his style, it's nice to be able to see Cook's style and how it contrasts.
bigmario 13y ago
To be honest, I think Cook is doing a damn good job considering the big shoes he had to fill when Jobs left. Tim Cook will never be the dictator that Jobs was, nor will he command the same "respect" that Jobs had. When you not only founded a company, but also brought them from the brink of bankruptcy to the most valuable company in the world (a few months ago), you have a certain gravitas that your successor will never have. Also, Tim Cook seems to be passionate about the company, especially given his emotional rebuttal of activist investors at the last shareholders meetings.[1] [1] http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/tim-cook-soundly-rejects-politics-of-the-ncppr-suggests-group-sell-apples-s http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/tim-cook-soundly-reje...
ufmace 13y ago
That's interesting, and makes me want to read more about Apple and Steve. Cook seems to still be a big unknown in a lot of ways. My biggest question about the future of Apple is whether they'll be the first with the next revolutionary device. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad didn't have any fundamentally new technology, but instead put together existing technology in a way that redefined how we used and thought of the whole class of devices. Nobody made a music player that was simple to use and just worked before the iPod. Nobody made a truly finger-friendly touch-screen device before the iPhone. Nobody made a tablet that was really practical until the iPad. I don't own or use any of either of them regularly, but I can appreciate the effect they've had on the market. There will be more revolutionary devices in the future. Will they be created in Cook's Apple? If they are created, is Cook the man to bring the right device to the market at the right time? That's what'll be interesting to see.
capkutay 13y ago
I think the jury is still out on Tim Cook..and that jury will report the verdict some time early 2015. If Apple does not break into a new product category this year, it's clear that Tim Cook cares too much about operations and too little for innovation and pushing Apple products to the next level. You can tell by the particularly insignificant iterations of the iPhone. Either he has an excellent poker face and is keeping their new products a secret, or he just set out to turn Apple into a cash cow: sandbagging existing products to maximize profit.
- bennyg 13y ago
  What product category do you expect Apple to jump into? The only viable one I can think of is wearable tech, and definitely not a damn watch. I think Apple won't cater to as niche a market as wearable medical, and let 3rd party use their hardware to attack that market space.
  - iQuercus 13y ago
    Why would a well-done wearable medical device be niche? In America alone there are 1 billion doctors visits per year (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/docvisit.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/docvisit.htm) Surely there is untapped potential in giving people greater day to day insights into their health, and obviously a lot of people care about their health.
    - johnpowell 13y ago
      What exactly would this device do? What useful data can be gathered from my pulse and miles walked that would be relevant to my my doctors visit?
      - bennyg 13y ago
        This. Until it can analyze sweat for illnesses and nutrition info that won't get Apple in trouble legally (FDA...) and will spare you from going in for a check-up, then I don't think it's feasible at all for them to venture in that area.
PakG1 13y ago
This reminds me of Ben Horowitz's article, Ones and Twos: http://www.bhorowitz.com/ones_and_twos http://www.bhorowitz.com/ones_and_twos I have to say that it seems darn hard to be a One. Not that it's easy to be a Two, but Ones have this mystical aspect about them that seem to ascribe their traits and success to something almost like genetics/luck/natural talent that hard work can never touch. As creative as I think I am, I know that I lack the vision for being a really top-tier One. I'm good at analyzing problems, finding solutions for them, streamlining stuff, etc. So you could say that I'm a Two. And yet, here I am running a bad startup (and maybe it's because I don't seem to be a One that it's not going amazing? :D). That being said, I'm really impressed with what Tim Cook is doing so far. Wooing and hiring the Burberry CEO seemed like a total upgrade on trying to get back the guy they lost to JC Penney (who later was fired anyway) to run their retail operations. All the medical-oriented rumors about the iWatch make me think that Apple hasn't yet lost its touch for making something mindblowing; it will be really interesting to see if they truly are introducing a totally new product category yet again. And the fact that Tim Cook can get all fiery during a public shareholder meeting to defend what many people will agree is the right thing to do demands respect. Tim Cook may be a Two, rather than a One. But so far, I would not yet count Apple out just because he's a Two. I get the impression so far that he really can keep it together. I'm not making a prediction here, I'm just saying that I wouldn't count him out. So far, he has not done anything significantly bad enough to make me think he's the wrong guy for the job. In fact, I think he has done some good things. And let's face it. I don't think even Steve Jobs would have been good enough to consistently introduce new product categories for the rest of his life, were he still here. That kind of track record is really tough to match for a single person. I may be wrong, but I think you need to ingrain that way of life into an entire organization for there to be any chance of continually doing it. And hopefully, that's what Tim Cook inherited.
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reovirus 13y ago
I just wanted to chime in and say "The Job After Steve Jobs" - well played on the title of this article.
caycep 13y ago
Here's the rub, there's a lot of "Cook is an unknown", "Jury is still out on Cook" type memes being populated by the media. Cook has been running the company since the late '90s. I'd say he's a pretty well-known by now. Ruthlessly competent operations chief, who saved Apple from operational incompetence (by the "Adult Supervision" who fired Jobs in the first place), and probably the biggest reason why the iPod, iPhone, and iPad are successes - by giving Apple the capability to design (through operating capital), market and produce them, and make a margin on every unit they sell. Apple being a black box due to secrecy, it's hard to tell what's going on inside, but by all we have seen, it's been pretty confident at doing what it feels it's good at. I doubt there's a "Jobs haunting" mentality there. But hey, if Yukari Kane wants to sell books...
- gnaffle 13y ago
  I think the main problem is that you could say exactly the same about Ballmer at Microsoft. He also ran Microsoft very well from an operations point of view. What we know for certain is that Apple can still _execute_ very well and stay competitive in a certain market. The latest offerings of Macs, iPhones and iPads are ample proof of that. The question which is still unanswered is whether Apple, with Tim Cook and the other leaders, has what it takes to stay innovative. It's too early to tell, and I think it's certainly to early to write a book about it. Since Tim Cook has gone on record saying that we will wee new product categories within the year, my guess is that we'll know for certain in 2-3 years time.
  - alaskamiller 13y ago
    Jobs haunts infinite loop because in his death we ascribe all and any kind of paranormality to him. Innovation has came before Jobs, and it will come after jobs. One man alone does not hold lock and key to something as big as innovation. If Apple is the only company that can put a screen in 7 billion people's hands and home, how is this not a testament to greatness? Don't be the next Steve Jobs. Be Tim Cook. Be you.
  - rimantas 13y ago
    What new products did Balmer bring in which would go from zero to being main profit generators?
snowwrestler 13y ago
Apple will never be the same as it was under Steve Jobs. Period. In a world of A, B, and C players, Jobs was an A+++ player; you can probably count them on one hand. The thing is, no one can bring him back to life. He's gone forever and it seems like a lot of folks have not yet reached the "acceptance" stage of grief. And if I can be cynical for a moment, writers and reporters can make a nice living off exploiting that, by writing articles and books like this one. Apple can still be a great company. It does not need to change the world every 4 years to accomplish that goal. Life is not black and white. There is a huge range between best company in the world (how some people saw Apple toward the end of Jobs' 2nd tenure), and failure.
- onedev 13y ago
  "Life is not black and white." Then I say the world isn't filled with classes of "players"
- stcredzero 13y ago
  In a world of A, B, and C players, Jobs was an A+++ player; you can probably count them on one hand. How can we distinguish this statement from Jobs-worshiping woo? It feels like the truth, but we 21 century thinkers now know that that's not nearly enough to take something as actually being true. Basically, this subscribes to the 19th century "Great Man" theory of history. I think there is something to Steve Job's insight, but he was also around in the right place at the right time. There is a lot to be learned from hanging around a scene which is a little outside the mainstream experience, like music. If you get a little behind the scenes in a music scene, you'll find that there are a lot of people just as talented or even more talented than the stadium tour headliners, but didn't have the same strokes of good luck and/or weren't as good at marketing themselves. The problem I have with applying "Great Man" theory to Steve Jobs, is that it tends to blind us to what he did right and what he didn't get right. Steve Jobs was very perceptive and had a demonstrated track record showing that he could analyze products in the marketplace from first principles. http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/3533.html http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/3533.html Steve Jobs most certainly was a great man. However he wasn't a god, he didn't possess an unknowable magic, and the harm to Silicon Valley done by people who blindly imitate his surface qualities in the hope of somehow receiving the same "cargo" is, I suspect, disturbingly large.
37prime 13y ago
The article to me is like an empty can that rattles really loud. There is more of the author’s wishes than reality.
stcredzero 13y ago
Meetings with Cook could be terrifying. He exuded a Zenlike calm and didn't waste words. "Talk about your numbers. Put your spreadsheet up," Okay, why in the world are we, supposed 21st century intellectuals, supposed to be looking at a leader who asks for quantification and hard data as somehow unusual and harsh? If I assume that the writer knows his audience well, implications of this for how WSJ readers generally think is, frankly, breathtaking. We don't live in the world wishfully imagined by the Romantic Era! We live in a world ruled by mathematically-based laws best understood from first principles. The "Rule of Cool" is not going to suspend the laws of physics and economics for you just because you greatly impress a bunch of bipedal primates on a particular planet. < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3sBlRgzTI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3sBlRgzTI > This is especially true for startups! However many of us fail to comprehend this because we forget that human beings are not omniscient. Just because we don't yet understand how market forces are going to respond to an entirely new product category or an entirely new class of transaction or entirely new kind of company doesn't mean that the laws of nature and economics have been suspended for the rule of cool. It just means our squishy little chemical-bag brains haven't processed the new situation enough to codify it and share the information through our culture. Not fully understanding something Does Not Justify Woo! (And disturbingly, you don't have to search very hard in the startup scene to find some programmer-branded or startup-branded woo!) Ignore this at your peril. The Rule of Cool won't protect you any more than respecting pilot seniority kept Asiana Airlines Flight 214 from crashing. (Korean American here, and yes, the example makes me get angry and cringe.)
- IBM 13y ago
  Because it fits the narrative. Tim Cook is being cast as the operations guy that may be a good manager but isn't a transformative leader that Steve Jobs was. The title of her book is Haunted Empire: Apple After Steve Jobs. This is a book that could only be written 5-10 years from now, but who knows where Apple could be then. She's striking while the iron is hot; if Apple is irrelevant and no one is interested in the company in 10 years, she wouldn't sell nearly as many books.
  - stcredzero 13y ago
twic 13y ago
I rather like the way the WSJ's stock price annotations add a shade of meaning to this quote: > "Without the arrival of a new charismatic leader, it will move from being a great company to being a good company," George Colony, the CEO of technology research firm Forrester Research, [FORR -0.08%] wrote in a blog. "Like Sony, [6758.TO +1.31%] Polaroid, Apple circa 1985, and Disney, [DIS +0.41%] Apple will coast and then decelerate." So, the guy who runs the company whose price is falling says that Apple is heading for trouble, just like those other companies whose prices are rising.
- davidmr 13y ago
  If you can read meaning into a one-day price fall of 0.08%, you're a smarter person than I am.
  - pazimzadeh 13y ago
    I've never understood why the WSJ has inline prices like that. It detracts from the story while only giving a semblance of quantification. For it to be useful, the price window should be at least one month.
    - eropple 13y ago
      It makes people click things. Clicking things means ad revenue, even if they take you to stupid things. User experience? Meh, who cares.
allochthon 13y ago
Jobs, Cook, other CEOs -- we fall into fundamental attribution error [1] when we give them too much credit for the success of a company, something Americans are particularly susceptible to (which I say as an American). Not infrequently the best thing they can do is to get out of the way. By contrast, a bad CEO can do much to sink a company. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error EDIT: clarify meaning.
- philthesong 13y ago
  That's what you get for being a leader. It isn't all glorious, either. Think about music composers, movie directors, athletes, political leaders, etc.
  - philwelch 13y ago
    The entire definition of being a leader is that you are individually held responsible for the results of everyone you lead. It's not fair, but it works because holding someone to that level of responsibility and the level of autonomy that goes with it means they can use all their creativity and resourcefulness to deliver results and overcome obstacles.
simonh 13y ago
Apple doesn't need to be as good as or better than it might have been if Steve Jobs had survived, it needs to be better than the competition. Which other company does anyone here think does a better job at competing in Apple's markets than Apple? That's what matters. Yes I'd love to see Apple move into new markets with new original products and services. I don't see any reason Apple today is any less likely to be able to do that than any other company.
exo_duz 13y ago
Obviously everyone has differing opinions about Cook, his management style and ideas but I think that since taking over Apple has lost a lot of its ability to be exciting. A lot of the things coming out has been quite textbook and boring and didn't command the excitement it did when Jobs was at the helm. Is this just way Cook is? Or is this a forecast into the way Apple is? Everyone has said that Jobs was the visionary behind Apple, can Cook be the visionary after Jobs? I think that Apple needs another visionary to drive the way it innovated in the late 90s and 00s when Jobs was there. I know it might sound one-sided towards Jobs but I'm still yet to see the kind of innovation Apple had ever since Cook took over.
mwfunk 13y ago
I don't understand why an established company failing to create new product categories by some arbitrary deadline ("they better have something completely new by the end of the year!") is seen as a sign of failure. If a company is hanging onto old businesses that are withering away while failing to rejuvenate those businesses or create new ones, that's failure, or the road to failure at least (Blackberry being one example). But that's not what's happening here. For that matter, I don't see failure to maintain explosive growth as a failure of any company. It might be a failure as far as the stock market is concerned, but it's deeply screwed up that this is the dynamic driving the stock market. The stock market for much of the tech industry is completely driven by growth (or the promise of future growth). This is bad, this does not lead to a better tech industry, and this is not healthy for any of the companies involved. It's only healthy for short term investors, who unfortunately seem to be way overrepresented in the tech industry. The Greater Fool Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory) drives stock prices far more than the fundamental health or outlook for most tech companies. Anyway, whenever I hear a complaint about company X because they haven't created some completely new product category in the past 12 months, I don't hear a complaint about the company. I hear a complaint about the stock price, which is driven by continuous (and possibly unhealthy for the company) growth, which drives the stock price due to the Greater Fool Theory as much anything else. Such an opinion isn't even a commentary on the company- it's a commentary on a number (the stock price) that is most likely to go up when companies do risky and dangerous things (blow a ton of money trying to enter new markets or create new markets), and is completely disconnected from the fundamentals of the company, its profits, projections of its future profits, customer happiness and loyalty, and any number of other things that really ought to come in front of "short term explosive growth potential" when attempting to answer questions like, "is company X performing well?" or "is the CEO of company X doing a good job?". What's worse is that when that number (again, the stock price) goes down due to a lack of growth in new product categories (Microsoft being the prime example here), it can force such a company to do things that are actively bad for it, because it is compelled to expend tons of resources floundering around trying to reinvent itself when no such complete reinvention is really necessary. Just look at two companies that the stock market has been very kind to over the last 10 years: Amazon and Apple. Did Apple's stock go up because of its profit margins? Maybe somewhat, but I'm guessing that the market was really just responding to growth. Obviously Amazon's stock hasn't benefited from fat margins; growth is the only thing it has going for it, and it's done quite well. In the Amazon case, I don't think there's even any concept anymore that someday it will slow down the growth and start fattening its margins. People used to say this like 10 years ago to explain the disconnect between Amazon's stock price and their margins, but I think at this point no one's even making vague allusions to that theory anymore. People buy Amazon stock because they think other people will buy Amazon stock based solely on growth. Someone might buy Amazon stock thinking that the whole growth thing is a scam, but they don't care because the stock price isn't based on Amazon's performance- it's based on how the buyer thinks other people will perceive Amazon's performance, scam or no. This is the Greater Fool Theory in a nutshell.
JadeNB 13y ago
Here's Gruber's take on a related piece by the same author in The New Yorker: http://daringfireball.net/2014/02/fitting_facts_to_the_narrative http://daringfireball.net/2014/02/fitting_facts_to_the_narra....
- JadeNB 13y ago
  I apologise if there was something inappropriate about the post—I thought that the commentary might be interesting. So that I can avoid future downvotes, what was wrong with this comment?

77 points by spking 13y ago

A very good read. I've read Jobs' biography so I gained an insight into his style, it's nice to be able to see Cook's style and how it contrasts.

bigmario 13y ago

To be honest, I think Cook is doing a damn good job considering the big shoes he had to fill when Jobs left. Tim Cook will never be the dictator that Jobs was, nor will he command the same "respect" that Jobs had. When you not only founded a company, but also brought them from the brink of bankruptcy to the most valuable company in the world (a few months ago), you have a certain gravitas that your successor will never have. Also, Tim Cook seems to be passionate about the company, especially given his emotional rebuttal of activist investors at the last shareholders meetings.[1] [1] http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/tim-cook-soundly-rejects-politics-of-the-ncppr-suggests-group-sell-apples-s http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/tim-cook-soundly-reje...

ufmace 13y ago

That's interesting, and makes me want to read more about Apple and Steve. Cook seems to still be a big unknown in a lot of ways. My biggest question about the future of Apple is whether they'll be the first with the next revolutionary device. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad didn't have any fundamentally new technology, but instead put together existing technology in a way that redefined how we used and thought of the whole class of devices. Nobody made a music player that was simple to use and just worked before the iPod. Nobody made a truly finger-friendly touch-screen device before the iPhone. Nobody made a tablet that was really practical until the iPad. I don't own or use any of either of them regularly, but I can appreciate the effect they've had on the market. There will be more revolutionary devices in the future. Will they be created in Cook's Apple? If they are created, is Cook the man to bring the right device to the market at the right time? That's what'll be interesting to see.

capkutay 13y ago

I think the jury is still out on Tim Cook..and that jury will report the verdict some time early 2015. If Apple does not break into a new product category this year, it's clear that Tim Cook cares too much about operations and too little for innovation and pushing Apple products to the next level. You can tell by the particularly insignificant iterations of the iPhone. Either he has an excellent poker face and is keeping their new products a secret, or he just set out to turn Apple into a cash cow: sandbagging existing products to maximize profit.

bennyg 13y ago
What product category do you expect Apple to jump into? The only viable one I can think of is wearable tech, and definitely not a damn watch. I think Apple won't cater to as niche a market as wearable medical, and let 3rd party use their hardware to attack that market space.
- iQuercus 13y ago
  Why would a well-done wearable medical device be niche? In America alone there are 1 billion doctors visits per year (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/docvisit.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/docvisit.htm) Surely there is untapped potential in giving people greater day to day insights into their health, and obviously a lot of people care about their health.
  - johnpowell 13y ago
    What exactly would this device do? What useful data can be gathered from my pulse and miles walked that would be relevant to my my doctors visit?
    - bennyg 13y ago
      This. Until it can analyze sweat for illnesses and nutrition info that won't get Apple in trouble legally (FDA...) and will spare you from going in for a check-up, then I don't think it's feasible at all for them to venture in that area.

PakG1 13y ago

This reminds me of Ben Horowitz's article, Ones and Twos: http://www.bhorowitz.com/ones_and_twos http://www.bhorowitz.com/ones_and_twos I have to say that it seems darn hard to be a One. Not that it's easy to be a Two, but Ones have this mystical aspect about them that seem to ascribe their traits and success to something almost like genetics/luck/natural talent that hard work can never touch. As creative as I think I am, I know that I lack the vision for being a really top-tier One. I'm good at analyzing problems, finding solutions for them, streamlining stuff, etc. So you could say that I'm a Two. And yet, here I am running a bad startup (and maybe it's because I don't seem to be a One that it's not going amazing? :D). That being said, I'm really impressed with what Tim Cook is doing so far. Wooing and hiring the Burberry CEO seemed like a total upgrade on trying to get back the guy they lost to JC Penney (who later was fired anyway) to run their retail operations. All the medical-oriented rumors about the iWatch make me think that Apple hasn't yet lost its touch for making something mindblowing; it will be really interesting to see if they truly are introducing a totally new product category yet again. And the fact that Tim Cook can get all fiery during a public shareholder meeting to defend what many people will agree is the right thing to do demands respect. Tim Cook may be a Two, rather than a One. But so far, I would not yet count Apple out just because he's a Two. I get the impression so far that he really can keep it together. I'm not making a prediction here, I'm just saying that I wouldn't count him out. So far, he has not done anything significantly bad enough to make me think he's the wrong guy for the job. In fact, I think he has done some good things. And let's face it. I don't think even Steve Jobs would have been good enough to consistently introduce new product categories for the rest of his life, were he still here. That kind of track record is really tough to match for a single person. I may be wrong, but I think you need to ingrain that way of life into an entire organization for there to be any chance of continually doing it. And hopefully, that's what Tim Cook inherited.

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reovirus 13y ago

I just wanted to chime in and say "The Job After Steve Jobs" - well played on the title of this article.

caycep 13y ago

Here's the rub, there's a lot of "Cook is an unknown", "Jury is still out on Cook" type memes being populated by the media. Cook has been running the company since the late '90s. I'd say he's a pretty well-known by now. Ruthlessly competent operations chief, who saved Apple from operational incompetence (by the "Adult Supervision" who fired Jobs in the first place), and probably the biggest reason why the iPod, iPhone, and iPad are successes - by giving Apple the capability to design (through operating capital), market and produce them, and make a margin on every unit they sell. Apple being a black box due to secrecy, it's hard to tell what's going on inside, but by all we have seen, it's been pretty confident at doing what it feels it's good at. I doubt there's a "Jobs haunting" mentality there. But hey, if Yukari Kane wants to sell books...

gnaffle 13y ago
I think the main problem is that you could say exactly the same about Ballmer at Microsoft. He also ran Microsoft very well from an operations point of view. What we know for certain is that Apple can still _execute_ very well and stay competitive in a certain market. The latest offerings of Macs, iPhones and iPads are ample proof of that. The question which is still unanswered is whether Apple, with Tim Cook and the other leaders, has what it takes to stay innovative. It's too early to tell, and I think it's certainly to early to write a book about it. Since Tim Cook has gone on record saying that we will wee new product categories within the year, my guess is that we'll know for certain in 2-3 years time.
- alaskamiller 13y ago
  Jobs haunts infinite loop because in his death we ascribe all and any kind of paranormality to him. Innovation has came before Jobs, and it will come after jobs. One man alone does not hold lock and key to something as big as innovation. If Apple is the only company that can put a screen in 7 billion people's hands and home, how is this not a testament to greatness? Don't be the next Steve Jobs. Be Tim Cook. Be you.
- rimantas 13y ago
  What new products did Balmer bring in which would go from zero to being main profit generators?

snowwrestler 13y ago

Apple will never be the same as it was under Steve Jobs. Period. In a world of A, B, and C players, Jobs was an A+++ player; you can probably count them on one hand. The thing is, no one can bring him back to life. He's gone forever and it seems like a lot of folks have not yet reached the "acceptance" stage of grief. And if I can be cynical for a moment, writers and reporters can make a nice living off exploiting that, by writing articles and books like this one. Apple can still be a great company. It does not need to change the world every 4 years to accomplish that goal. Life is not black and white. There is a huge range between best company in the world (how some people saw Apple toward the end of Jobs' 2nd tenure), and failure.

onedev 13y ago
"Life is not black and white." Then I say the world isn't filled with classes of "players"
stcredzero 13y ago
In a world of A, B, and C players, Jobs was an A+++ player; you can probably count them on one hand. How can we distinguish this statement from Jobs-worshiping woo? It feels like the truth, but we 21 century thinkers now know that that's not nearly enough to take something as actually being true. Basically, this subscribes to the 19th century "Great Man" theory of history. I think there is something to Steve Job's insight, but he was also around in the right place at the right time. There is a lot to be learned from hanging around a scene which is a little outside the mainstream experience, like music. If you get a little behind the scenes in a music scene, you'll find that there are a lot of people just as talented or even more talented than the stadium tour headliners, but didn't have the same strokes of good luck and/or weren't as good at marketing themselves. The problem I have with applying "Great Man" theory to Steve Jobs, is that it tends to blind us to what he did right and what he didn't get right. Steve Jobs was very perceptive and had a demonstrated track record showing that he could analyze products in the marketplace from first principles. http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/3533.html http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/3533.html Steve Jobs most certainly was a great man. However he wasn't a god, he didn't possess an unknowable magic, and the harm to Silicon Valley done by people who blindly imitate his surface qualities in the hope of somehow receiving the same "cargo" is, I suspect, disturbingly large.

37prime 13y ago

The article to me is like an empty can that rattles really loud. There is more of the author’s wishes than reality.

stcredzero 13y ago

Meetings with Cook could be terrifying. He exuded a Zenlike calm and didn't waste words. "Talk about your numbers. Put your spreadsheet up," Okay, why in the world are we, supposed 21st century intellectuals, supposed to be looking at a leader who asks for quantification and hard data as somehow unusual and harsh? If I assume that the writer knows his audience well, implications of this for how WSJ readers generally think is, frankly, breathtaking. We don't live in the world wishfully imagined by the Romantic Era! We live in a world ruled by mathematically-based laws best understood from first principles. The "Rule of Cool" is not going to suspend the laws of physics and economics for you just because you greatly impress a bunch of bipedal primates on a particular planet. < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3sBlRgzTI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3sBlRgzTI > This is especially true for startups! However many of us fail to comprehend this because we forget that human beings are not omniscient. Just because we don't yet understand how market forces are going to respond to an entirely new product category or an entirely new class of transaction or entirely new kind of company doesn't mean that the laws of nature and economics have been suspended for the rule of cool. It just means our squishy little chemical-bag brains haven't processed the new situation enough to codify it and share the information through our culture. Not fully understanding something Does Not Justify Woo! (And disturbingly, you don't have to search very hard in the startup scene to find some programmer-branded or startup-branded woo!) Ignore this at your peril. The Rule of Cool won't protect you any more than respecting pilot seniority kept Asiana Airlines Flight 214 from crashing. (Korean American here, and yes, the example makes me get angry and cringe.)

IBM 13y ago
Because it fits the narrative. Tim Cook is being cast as the operations guy that may be a good manager but isn't a transformative leader that Steve Jobs was. The title of her book is Haunted Empire: Apple After Steve Jobs. This is a book that could only be written 5-10 years from now, but who knows where Apple could be then. She's striking while the iron is hot; if Apple is irrelevant and no one is interested in the company in 10 years, she wouldn't sell nearly as many books.
- stcredzero 13y ago

twic 13y ago

I rather like the way the WSJ's stock price annotations add a shade of meaning to this quote: > "Without the arrival of a new charismatic leader, it will move from being a great company to being a good company," George Colony, the CEO of technology research firm Forrester Research, [FORR -0.08%] wrote in a blog. "Like Sony, [6758.TO +1.31%] Polaroid, Apple circa 1985, and Disney, [DIS +0.41%] Apple will coast and then decelerate." So, the guy who runs the company whose price is falling says that Apple is heading for trouble, just like those other companies whose prices are rising.

davidmr 13y ago
If you can read meaning into a one-day price fall of 0.08%, you're a smarter person than I am.
- pazimzadeh 13y ago
  I've never understood why the WSJ has inline prices like that. It detracts from the story while only giving a semblance of quantification. For it to be useful, the price window should be at least one month.
  - eropple 13y ago
    It makes people click things. Clicking things means ad revenue, even if they take you to stupid things. User experience? Meh, who cares.

allochthon 13y ago

Jobs, Cook, other CEOs -- we fall into fundamental attribution error [1] when we give them too much credit for the success of a company, something Americans are particularly susceptible to (which I say as an American). Not infrequently the best thing they can do is to get out of the way. By contrast, a bad CEO can do much to sink a company. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error EDIT: clarify meaning.

philthesong 13y ago
That's what you get for being a leader. It isn't all glorious, either. Think about music composers, movie directors, athletes, political leaders, etc.
- philwelch 13y ago
  The entire definition of being a leader is that you are individually held responsible for the results of everyone you lead. It's not fair, but it works because holding someone to that level of responsibility and the level of autonomy that goes with it means they can use all their creativity and resourcefulness to deliver results and overcome obstacles.

simonh 13y ago

Apple doesn't need to be as good as or better than it might have been if Steve Jobs had survived, it needs to be better than the competition. Which other company does anyone here think does a better job at competing in Apple's markets than Apple? That's what matters. Yes I'd love to see Apple move into new markets with new original products and services. I don't see any reason Apple today is any less likely to be able to do that than any other company.

exo_duz 13y ago

Obviously everyone has differing opinions about Cook, his management style and ideas but I think that since taking over Apple has lost a lot of its ability to be exciting. A lot of the things coming out has been quite textbook and boring and didn't command the excitement it did when Jobs was at the helm. Is this just way Cook is? Or is this a forecast into the way Apple is? Everyone has said that Jobs was the visionary behind Apple, can Cook be the visionary after Jobs? I think that Apple needs another visionary to drive the way it innovated in the late 90s and 00s when Jobs was there. I know it might sound one-sided towards Jobs but I'm still yet to see the kind of innovation Apple had ever since Cook took over.

mwfunk 13y ago

I don't understand why an established company failing to create new product categories by some arbitrary deadline ("they better have something completely new by the end of the year!") is seen as a sign of failure. If a company is hanging onto old businesses that are withering away while failing to rejuvenate those businesses or create new ones, that's failure, or the road to failure at least (Blackberry being one example). But that's not what's happening here. For that matter, I don't see failure to maintain explosive growth as a failure of any company. It might be a failure as far as the stock market is concerned, but it's deeply screwed up that this is the dynamic driving the stock market. The stock market for much of the tech industry is completely driven by growth (or the promise of future growth). This is bad, this does not lead to a better tech industry, and this is not healthy for any of the companies involved. It's only healthy for short term investors, who unfortunately seem to be way overrepresented in the tech industry. The Greater Fool Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory) drives stock prices far more than the fundamental health or outlook for most tech companies. Anyway, whenever I hear a complaint about company X because they haven't created some completely new product category in the past 12 months, I don't hear a complaint about the company. I hear a complaint about the stock price, which is driven by continuous (and possibly unhealthy for the company) growth, which drives the stock price due to the Greater Fool Theory as much anything else. Such an opinion isn't even a commentary on the company- it's a commentary on a number (the stock price) that is most likely to go up when companies do risky and dangerous things (blow a ton of money trying to enter new markets or create new markets), and is completely disconnected from the fundamentals of the company, its profits, projections of its future profits, customer happiness and loyalty, and any number of other things that really ought to come in front of "short term explosive growth potential" when attempting to answer questions like, "is company X performing well?" or "is the CEO of company X doing a good job?". What's worse is that when that number (again, the stock price) goes down due to a lack of growth in new product categories (Microsoft being the prime example here), it can force such a company to do things that are actively bad for it, because it is compelled to expend tons of resources floundering around trying to reinvent itself when no such complete reinvention is really necessary. Just look at two companies that the stock market has been very kind to over the last 10 years: Amazon and Apple. Did Apple's stock go up because of its profit margins? Maybe somewhat, but I'm guessing that the market was really just responding to growth. Obviously Amazon's stock hasn't benefited from fat margins; growth is the only thing it has going for it, and it's done quite well. In the Amazon case, I don't think there's even any concept anymore that someday it will slow down the growth and start fattening its margins. People used to say this like 10 years ago to explain the disconnect between Amazon's stock price and their margins, but I think at this point no one's even making vague allusions to that theory anymore. People buy Amazon stock because they think other people will buy Amazon stock based solely on growth. Someone might buy Amazon stock thinking that the whole growth thing is a scam, but they don't care because the stock price isn't based on Amazon's performance- it's based on how the buyer thinks other people will perceive Amazon's performance, scam or no. This is the Greater Fool Theory in a nutshell.

JadeNB 13y ago

Here's Gruber's take on a related piece by the same author in The New Yorker: http://daringfireball.net/2014/02/fitting_facts_to_the_narrative http://daringfireball.net/2014/02/fitting_facts_to_the_narra....

JadeNB 13y ago
I apologise if there was something inappropriate about the post—I thought that the commentary might be interesting. So that I can avoid future downvotes, what was wrong with this comment?