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If you've actually ever used Emacs before don't use Aquamacs, or else you're going to end up reconfiguring everything all over again because the Aquamacs develo

If you've actually ever used Emacs before don't use Aquamacs, or else you're going to end up reconfiguring everything all over again because the Aquamacs developers don't seem to like to stick the standards and conventions. Random things are wonky and way out of place. Like their variation of how buffers and frames work is ridiculous. Build the Nextstep version, Emacs.app and things will actually work the way they're supposed to without having to reconfigure everything again.

jrockway 17y ago
I noticed this back when I used OS X. Part of the reason I switched from OS X back to Linux was that Emacs never worked right on OS X.
jimbokun 17y ago
On the other hand, if you are used to Mac OS X applications and want to try Emacs, Aquamacs is a good place to start. Mapping the Command key to traditional Mac shortcuts (Cmd-C copy, Cmd-V paste, etc.) while leaving the Control key for Emacs commands and Option as Meta, works really well for me. I have used Emacs off and on over a couple decades now, but have also been using Macs for about as long, so changing Command to do something other than the Mac shortcuts when I am on a Mac would mess with my muscle memory something terrible. I find myself sometimes using Cmd-V to paste and sometimes C-y as the mood strikes, and somehow it all works. So, executive summary: if you just want Emacs like its always been stay away from Aquamacs. If you want Emacs that makes a little more sense according to Mac OS interface guidelines, give Aquamacs a shot.
- nileshk 17y ago
  Actually, the Cocoa (aka "nextstep") build of GNU Emacs 23.1 works exactly this way by default. Option is Meta, and various typical Mac Cmd shortcuts work by default (many of the ones that Aquamacs supports). For example: Cmd-C/X/V - copy/cut/paste Cmd-Z - undo Cmd-N - new frame (or "window" in Mac terminology) Cmd-W - close frame (if not last frame) Cmd-` - switch between frames Cmd-H - hide application Cmd-M - minimize frame Cmd-, - customize Cmd-K - kill buffer Cmd-T - bring up Mac font chooser Cmd-S - save Cmd-A - select all Cmd-O - bring up Mac file chooser And of course you can define your own actions that use Cmd if you'd like. I think, for new users, the way Emacs does frames/windows/buffers is worth discovering instead of what Aquamacs does by default.
- travisjeffery 17y ago
  Emacs.app already does mappings correctly. In fact the last time I checked it also uses the native clipboard better than Aquamacs does, kill and copy work the same, as with yank/paste work.

jrockway 17y ago

I noticed this back when I used OS X. Part of the reason I switched from OS X back to Linux was that Emacs never worked right on OS X.

jimbokun 17y ago

On the other hand, if you are used to Mac OS X applications and want to try Emacs, Aquamacs is a good place to start. Mapping the Command key to traditional Mac shortcuts (Cmd-C copy, Cmd-V paste, etc.) while leaving the Control key for Emacs commands and Option as Meta, works really well for me. I have used Emacs off and on over a couple decades now, but have also been using Macs for about as long, so changing Command to do something other than the Mac shortcuts when I am on a Mac would mess with my muscle memory something terrible. I find myself sometimes using Cmd-V to paste and sometimes C-y as the mood strikes, and somehow it all works. So, executive summary: if you just want Emacs like its always been stay away from Aquamacs. If you want Emacs that makes a little more sense according to Mac OS interface guidelines, give Aquamacs a shot.

nileshk 17y ago
Actually, the Cocoa (aka "nextstep") build of GNU Emacs 23.1 works exactly this way by default. Option is Meta, and various typical Mac Cmd shortcuts work by default (many of the ones that Aquamacs supports). For example: Cmd-C/X/V - copy/cut/paste Cmd-Z - undo Cmd-N - new frame (or "window" in Mac terminology) Cmd-W - close frame (if not last frame) Cmd-` - switch between frames Cmd-H - hide application Cmd-M - minimize frame Cmd-, - customize Cmd-K - kill buffer Cmd-T - bring up Mac font chooser Cmd-S - save Cmd-A - select all Cmd-O - bring up Mac file chooser And of course you can define your own actions that use Cmd if you'd like. I think, for new users, the way Emacs does frames/windows/buffers is worth discovering instead of what Aquamacs does by default.
travisjeffery 17y ago
Emacs.app already does mappings correctly. In fact the last time I checked it also uses the native clipboard better than Aquamacs does, kill and copy work the same, as with yank/paste work.