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I hope when they are rewriting the browser with modern architecture, they keep in mind the problems which kept this bug alive for more than 12 years now (while

I hope when they are rewriting the browser with modern architecture, they keep in mind the problems which kept this bug alive for more than 12 years now (while all other major browsers fixed it one by one), citing 'foundation' or architectural problems: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414

pcwalton 13y ago
There are currently no plans to support plugins, so that bug is not relevant to Servo.
- piyush_soni 13y ago
  You mean that will again be an 'after thought'?
  - fabrice_d 13y ago
    No, we won't support plugins at all.
    - yxhuvud 13y ago
      Will you support add ons?
      - pcwalton 13y ago
        Yes, we're thinking about how best to do it. This is the kind of thing where ideas are quite welcome :)
        piyush_soni 13y ago
        I hope there will be no concept of "not restartless" add-ons. ... Thanks :)
    - pcwalton 13y ago
      Nit: I wouldn't say we won't, but there are currently no plans to.
      - mercurial 13y ago
        In the hypothesis Servo becomes Firefox's engine, this will be a blocker for Danish users. The government-mandated Nem-ID scheme uses a Java applet, and is used everywhere (taxes, banks, school system...).
        mercurial 13y ago
        I'm not sure why this is being downvoted?
        mbudde 13y ago
        A javascript version of Nem-ID is planned for release in 2014 [1]. [1]: http://www.nets.eu/dk-da/Produkter/Sikkerhed/NemID-tjenesteudbyder/NemID-JavaScript/Pages/default.aspx http://www.nets.eu/dk-da/Produkter/Sikkerhed/NemID-tjenesteu...
        mercurial 13y ago
        Thank you. Then apt-get purge icedtea-7-plugin icedtea-6-plugin is planned for execution in 2014 as well.
- inglesp 13y ago
  Can you expand on this?
  - Ygg2 13y ago
    Not a contributor, but from what I gather this is the strategy: PDF plugin -> PDF.js Flash plugin -> Shumway.js Java Plugin -> Nope. Good riddance. Others -> Nope Jetpack Addons on the other hand with are basically JS with access to some of Fx private API and are ported as soon as hooks for that API is made.
    - piyush_soni 13y ago
      Google Talk (/Hangouts) plugin. Silverlight plugin (Netflix, Amazon streaming) There are hundreds (if not thousands) of others. There are some we use to allow exploring 3d CAD models in the browser. HTML5/JS might be the way to go for future, but currently it seems a lot of plugin replacements (including shumway) are not up to the mark.
      - kevingadd 13y ago
        Tell that to Google, who are actively working on breaking all those plugins in chrome, for everyone, in an attempt to force people to rewrite plugins for the chrome specific Ppapi (which can't do many of the things npapi can)
        piyush_soni 13y ago
        Why would I tell that to Google? I use Firefox :).
      - Dylan16807 13y ago
        WebRTC? As far as I know Silverlight's primary draw is DRM. Good riddance.

pcwalton 13y ago

There are currently no plans to support plugins, so that bug is not relevant to Servo.

piyush_soni 13y ago
You mean that will again be an 'after thought'?
- fabrice_d 13y ago
  No, we won't support plugins at all.
  - yxhuvud 13y ago
    Will you support add ons?
    - pcwalton 13y ago
      Yes, we're thinking about how best to do it. This is the kind of thing where ideas are quite welcome :)
      - piyush_soni 13y ago
        I hope there will be no concept of "not restartless" add-ons. ... Thanks :)
  - pcwalton 13y ago
    Nit: I wouldn't say we won't, but there are currently no plans to.
    - mercurial 13y ago
      In the hypothesis Servo becomes Firefox's engine, this will be a blocker for Danish users. The government-mandated Nem-ID scheme uses a Java applet, and is used everywhere (taxes, banks, school system...).
      - mercurial 13y ago
        I'm not sure why this is being downvoted?
      - mbudde 13y ago
        A javascript version of Nem-ID is planned for release in 2014 [1]. [1]: http://www.nets.eu/dk-da/Produkter/Sikkerhed/NemID-tjenesteudbyder/NemID-JavaScript/Pages/default.aspx http://www.nets.eu/dk-da/Produkter/Sikkerhed/NemID-tjenesteu...
        mercurial 13y ago
        Thank you. Then apt-get purge icedtea-7-plugin icedtea-6-plugin is planned for execution in 2014 as well.
inglesp 13y ago
Can you expand on this?
- Ygg2 13y ago
  Not a contributor, but from what I gather this is the strategy: PDF plugin -> PDF.js Flash plugin -> Shumway.js Java Plugin -> Nope. Good riddance. Others -> Nope Jetpack Addons on the other hand with are basically JS with access to some of Fx private API and are ported as soon as hooks for that API is made.
  - piyush_soni 13y ago
    Google Talk (/Hangouts) plugin. Silverlight plugin (Netflix, Amazon streaming) There are hundreds (if not thousands) of others. There are some we use to allow exploring 3d CAD models in the browser. HTML5/JS might be the way to go for future, but currently it seems a lot of plugin replacements (including shumway) are not up to the mark.
    - kevingadd 13y ago
      Tell that to Google, who are actively working on breaking all those plugins in chrome, for everyone, in an attempt to force people to rewrite plugins for the chrome specific Ppapi (which can't do many of the things npapi can)
      - piyush_soni 13y ago
        Why would I tell that to Google? I use Firefox :).
    - Dylan16807 13y ago
      WebRTC? As far as I know Silverlight's primary draw is DRM. Good riddance.