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Vultr: DigitalOcean Clone

15 points by ShaneCurran 13y ago

api 13y ago
Looks nice! IPv6?
- ShaneCurran 13y ago
  It's not actually mine, so I'm not sure :)
- amjd 13y ago
  Not as of now
mbrownnyc 13y ago
No SSDs?
- amjd 13y ago
  They do have SSDs.
  - rpedela 13y ago
    Where does it say that?
    - amjd 13y ago
      I posted a link to a LowEndTalk thread discussing it in another comment, please check that out :)
    - kordless 13y ago
      On the pricing page.
      - mooism2 13y ago
        Specifically, in the text under the Intel logo.
- devicenull 13y ago
  All machines are SSD based, though we neglected to make that obvious. We will correct it.
joliv 13y ago
So why should I use this over DigitalOcean?
- pdq 13y ago
  One advantage I see is if you are away from New York and SF, and want low latency. They have locations in Dallas, Chicago, Atlanta, and Seattle.
- kordless 13y ago
  I have an issue with this type of question. Given compute moves to commodity, the only valid answer is 'price'. Granted, things like support and uptime need to be factored into cost calculations, but given we're moving to more and more transitional instances this will matter less and less over time.
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  Because its a commodity space where you should be using the cheapest provider?
deleted 13y ago
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babo 13y ago
"Host on 6 Continents" they say but have data centers only at US, Europe, Japan and Australia.
amjd 13y ago
Apparently it's owned by Choopa. More details here: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/22347/they-call-it-digital-ocean-killer-a-cloud-service-from-choopa-constant-https-www-vultr-com http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/22347/they-call-it-digital-... The design seems heavily 'inspired' by DigitalOcean. Doesn't look very promising to me as of now.
- davier26 13y ago
  Heavily 'inspired' for sure. I think it's doing them a bit of a disservice having their site be so similar to DO. An original brand focusing on how they are different from everyone else targeting devs may be better for them.
auganov 13y ago
DigitalOcean is just a nicely packaged, well-marketed VPS provider. From a consumer perspective, that is. Isn't "Vultr: another VPS provider" more appropriate?
- djokkataja 13y ago
  Have a look at Vultr's homepage next to DigitalOcean's: http://i.imgur.com/WyEggC9.png http://i.imgur.com/WyEggC9.png The pricing page is similarly copied; "clone" seems appropriate.
tonetheman 13y ago
Wow that looks a lot like Digital Ocean. I am way happy with digital ocean though so I am staying where I am!
mdasen 13y ago
If it weren't posted on HN and I found it on the web in general, I'd probably pass over it. Unlike DigitalOcean, their website doesn't indicate what virtualization they're using. On the lowendtalk link that amjd provided, they mention that it's KVM, but there are so many providers offering cheap VPSs that are oversold using OpenVZ or something. Similarly, lowendtalk mentions that they're using SSDs, but there's nary a mention of that on their website. It feels like Vultr bought a ready-made template for a cloud host and put in their logo. DigitalOcean's online presence earns a lot of trust. Their website makes clear what they're offering, the mentions of developers and popular open-source technologies makes them seem like they know the score, and their ever-expanding library of how-to guides shows a certain involvement and investment. Vultr might be a great service, but their website makes it seem like the loads of cheap, oversold VPS solutions out there who have just bought some dedicated servers and are renting them out. If they want to combat that perception, they should be offering information. Their website is buzz-word ready with "powerful infrastructure" and "high speed performance", but that isn't going to win over developers. That's like a new database product saying that it "automatically scales". If you're going to make the claim, you need to explain how.
kseistrup 13y ago
No reverse DNS, it seems.
Lilbowwow 13y ago
Be sure to read the comments here: https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-drown-in-the-digitalocean/ https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-dr... Looks like several people are reporting cases of this: https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-drown-in-the-digitalocean/#entry54130 https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-dr... A new account already had the customer details / data from a GameServer.com customer. Looks like Vultr is using the same billing database as their other brand. David from Choopa provided an explanation in the thread, but it still doesn't sit easy with me.
drcongo 13y ago
"We'll double your first payment"?! They'll charge me twice?

15 points by ShaneCurran 13y ago

api 13y ago

Looks nice! IPv6?

ShaneCurran 13y ago
It's not actually mine, so I'm not sure :)
amjd 13y ago
Not as of now

mbrownnyc 13y ago

No SSDs?

amjd 13y ago
They do have SSDs.
- rpedela 13y ago
  Where does it say that?
  - amjd 13y ago
    I posted a link to a LowEndTalk thread discussing it in another comment, please check that out :)
  - kordless 13y ago
    On the pricing page.
    - mooism2 13y ago
      Specifically, in the text under the Intel logo.
devicenull 13y ago
All machines are SSD based, though we neglected to make that obvious. We will correct it.

joliv 13y ago

So why should I use this over DigitalOcean?

pdq 13y ago
One advantage I see is if you are away from New York and SF, and want low latency. They have locations in Dallas, Chicago, Atlanta, and Seattle.
kordless 13y ago
I have an issue with this type of question. Given compute moves to commodity, the only valid answer is 'price'. Granted, things like support and uptime need to be factored into cost calculations, but given we're moving to more and more transitional instances this will matter less and less over time.
toomuchtodo 13y ago
Because its a commodity space where you should be using the cheapest provider?

deleted 13y ago

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babo 13y ago

"Host on 6 Continents" they say but have data centers only at US, Europe, Japan and Australia.

amjd 13y ago

Apparently it's owned by Choopa. More details here: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/22347/they-call-it-digital-ocean-killer-a-cloud-service-from-choopa-constant-https-www-vultr-com http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/22347/they-call-it-digital-... The design seems heavily 'inspired' by DigitalOcean. Doesn't look very promising to me as of now.

davier26 13y ago
Heavily 'inspired' for sure. I think it's doing them a bit of a disservice having their site be so similar to DO. An original brand focusing on how they are different from everyone else targeting devs may be better for them.

auganov 13y ago

DigitalOcean is just a nicely packaged, well-marketed VPS provider. From a consumer perspective, that is. Isn't "Vultr: another VPS provider" more appropriate?

djokkataja 13y ago
Have a look at Vultr's homepage next to DigitalOcean's: http://i.imgur.com/WyEggC9.png http://i.imgur.com/WyEggC9.png The pricing page is similarly copied; "clone" seems appropriate.

tonetheman 13y ago

Wow that looks a lot like Digital Ocean. I am way happy with digital ocean though so I am staying where I am!

mdasen 13y ago

If it weren't posted on HN and I found it on the web in general, I'd probably pass over it. Unlike DigitalOcean, their website doesn't indicate what virtualization they're using. On the lowendtalk link that amjd provided, they mention that it's KVM, but there are so many providers offering cheap VPSs that are oversold using OpenVZ or something. Similarly, lowendtalk mentions that they're using SSDs, but there's nary a mention of that on their website. It feels like Vultr bought a ready-made template for a cloud host and put in their logo. DigitalOcean's online presence earns a lot of trust. Their website makes clear what they're offering, the mentions of developers and popular open-source technologies makes them seem like they know the score, and their ever-expanding library of how-to guides shows a certain involvement and investment. Vultr might be a great service, but their website makes it seem like the loads of cheap, oversold VPS solutions out there who have just bought some dedicated servers and are renting them out. If they want to combat that perception, they should be offering information. Their website is buzz-word ready with "powerful infrastructure" and "high speed performance", but that isn't going to win over developers. That's like a new database product saying that it "automatically scales". If you're going to make the claim, you need to explain how.

kseistrup 13y ago

No reverse DNS, it seems.

Lilbowwow 13y ago

Be sure to read the comments here: https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-drown-in-the-digitalocean/ https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-dr... Looks like several people are reporting cases of this: https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-drown-in-the-digitalocean/#entry54130 https://vpsboard.com/topic/3607-choopa-sends-out-vultr-to-dr... A new account already had the customer details / data from a GameServer.com customer. Looks like Vultr is using the same billing database as their other brand. David from Choopa provided an explanation in the thread, but it still doesn't sit easy with me.

drcongo 13y ago

"We'll double your first payment"?! They'll charge me twice?