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Someone should build a web plataform to allow to decode it using crowdsourcing ..

scott_karana 13y ago
Crowdsourcing? Researchers already collaborate on works like this, so all we would get are unexperienced looky-loos and trolls. (Or were you being silly :P)
- TrainedMonkey 13y ago
  Quantity is a quality of it's own. I think getting large number of people to try something is a good way to move forward. Sure it is not efficient, but fairly reliable.
  - rantanplan 13y ago
    Au contraire. It is efficient but fairly unreliable :)
    - TrainedMonkey 13y ago
      I would beg to differ. It is not efficient from standpoint of labor allocation. Not experienced people are rarely efficient at completing complex tasks. On the other hand once problem captures imagination of the significant portion of population amount of progress made goes way up.
      - rantanplan 13y ago
        It depends on the problem. There are problems that are higly parallelizable and problems that are not. There are problems where expertise is paramount and problems where it is not. What you said is true but what I said is also true, if you stretch enough the definition of "fairly unreliable" :)
  - Renaud 13y ago
    You mean like a large number of people with no qualification and experience went looking for the Boston bombing suspect? I'll leave it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511
    - TrainedMonkey 13y ago
      I would argue that this is more of a mob lynching, rather than constructive combined effort. To look for models that work, look no further than open source. Projects with high amount of interest quite often do better.
      - catshirt 13y ago
        i assure you it was intended to be a constructive combined effort. i only skimmed the article linked but it doesn't seem to reference the fact that the kid who was falsely identified was found dead, presumably by his own hand. "hell is full of good meanings, but heaven is full of good works", as they say. on a lighter note, if you consider an open source project "crowdsourced" then i posit the current collaborative academic efforts to decode the manuscript are "crowdsourced" as well.
        pyre 13y ago
        Which kid is that? The one that was already missing before the bombing? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-26/falsely-accused-bombing-suspect-confirmed-dead/4652176 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-26/falsely-accused-bombin...
        catshirt 13y ago
        yes. he was missing, then falsely accused, then found dead.
        pyre 13y ago
        Your original post could be construed as suggesting that he killed himself due to the false accusations.
8ig8 13y ago
Something like _Voynich Genius_ ? http://rapgenius.com http://rapgenius.com

Crowdsourcing? Researchers already collaborate on works like this, so all we would get are unexperienced looky-loos and trolls. (Or were you being silly :P)

TrainedMonkey 13y ago
Quantity is a quality of it's own. I think getting large number of people to try something is a good way to move forward. Sure it is not efficient, but fairly reliable.
- rantanplan 13y ago
  Au contraire. It is efficient but fairly unreliable :)
  - TrainedMonkey 13y ago
    I would beg to differ. It is not efficient from standpoint of labor allocation. Not experienced people are rarely efficient at completing complex tasks. On the other hand once problem captures imagination of the significant portion of population amount of progress made goes way up.
    - rantanplan 13y ago
      It depends on the problem. There are problems that are higly parallelizable and problems that are not. There are problems where expertise is paramount and problems where it is not. What you said is true but what I said is also true, if you stretch enough the definition of "fairly unreliable" :)
- Renaud 13y ago
  You mean like a large number of people with no qualification and experience went looking for the Boston bombing suspect? I'll leave it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511
  - TrainedMonkey 13y ago
    I would argue that this is more of a mob lynching, rather than constructive combined effort. To look for models that work, look no further than open source. Projects with high amount of interest quite often do better.
    - catshirt 13y ago
      i assure you it was intended to be a constructive combined effort. i only skimmed the article linked but it doesn't seem to reference the fact that the kid who was falsely identified was found dead, presumably by his own hand. "hell is full of good meanings, but heaven is full of good works", as they say. on a lighter note, if you consider an open source project "crowdsourced" then i posit the current collaborative academic efforts to decode the manuscript are "crowdsourced" as well.
      - pyre 13y ago
        Which kid is that? The one that was already missing before the bombing? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-26/falsely-accused-bombing-suspect-confirmed-dead/4652176 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-26/falsely-accused-bombin...
        catshirt 13y ago
        yes. he was missing, then falsely accused, then found dead.
        pyre 13y ago
        Your original post could be construed as suggesting that he killed himself due to the false accusations.

8ig8 13y ago

Something like _Voynich Genius_ ? http://rapgenius.com http://rapgenius.com