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There's a spectrum between slavery and a happy, voluntary decision. Most of us want the floor on how an employer treats its workers slightly above gunpoint.
by throwawaymsft 13y ago
There's a spectrum between slavery and a happy, voluntary decision. Most of us want the floor on how an employer treats its workers slightly above gunpoint.
- Casseres 13y agoI'd rather the floor be much higher than just slightly above gunpoint. Like you mentioned, there are some people who don't care, and that's sad. Chances are that a voluntarily-working group of people have the floor much higher than "slightly above gunpoint". Also, you appear to be logged into a 4-day-old throwaway account. Is that intentional?
- coldtea 13y agoHunger is not very different from "gunpoint". You are working "voluntary" only if you have options.
- exit 13y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income
- qq66 13y agoBecause humans cannot photosynthesize, hunger is a consequence of idleness in a subsistence farming economy. A modern industrialized economy isn't too different along that parameter.
- pbhjpbhj 13y ago>hunger is a consequence of idleness in a subsistence farming economy // Yeah, 'cause famines and floods and other natural disasters never happen. No-one ever has to sell all their produce to pay for medicine. No, nothing like that; hunger==idleness for sure. /sarc
- qq66 13y agoI didn't say that idleness is the only cause of hunger.
- throwawaymsft 13y agoWhoops, yep my login was from before. Maybe I'll stick with it a bit. I was being facetious with the "slightly above" phrase :-). But I probably didn't word it well.
- gambiting 13y agoI come from Poland,where the minimum wage is ~$1.8 and I know a lot of people who earn it. Now from what I've heard, the Chinese workers at Foxconn work for $15 a day, and everyone calls it exploitation. Yet the Polish workers work for not much more if not for less after paying their taxes, and I've never heard anyone in the Western countries calling Polish workers "exploited". I also don't know anyone working under "slightly above gunpoint" conditions. The wages are just what they are, for many many different reasons. But just because someone is not getting paid what a person doing the same job in the UK or US or Germany would get paid doesn't automatically mean that they are exploited.
- aestra 13y agoIf Foxconn could do better economically in Poland, you bet your ass they would be in Poland. Wage is just one thing to take into consideration. Working conditions, forced overtime (perhaps without pay), safety, etc...