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Care to elaborate?

by phaer 13y ago

Care to elaborate?

adamnemecek 13y ago
"... couple that forces their boy to ..." Is that sufficient?
- phaer 13y ago
  Depends on what 'forces' means exactly in this case.
- sjtrny 13y ago
  "...eat their vegetables" is that abuse?
  - adamnemecek 13y ago
    Do you really want me to explain to you why those are different scenarios? Would you think that it's child abuse if the parents made their kid wear a gimp suit with a gag ball? Also would you think it was abuse if they made the kid undergo some hormone therapy?
    - phaer 13y ago
      You don't need me to explain to you why your examples are completely different scenarios than letting your (male) child play with dolls or wear dresses, right? Please find some better examples if you are interested in a constructive discussion and you are not on some kind of crusade about your idea of parenting.
      - adamnemecek 13y ago
        We weren't talking about letting but about forcing.
        Dylan16807 13y ago
        Forcing children to wear clothes is normal, and the style shouldn't matter as long as they are fitting and such. I don't think you can really 'force' a child to play, so I discount the part about playing with dolls being potentially 'abusive'.
        lotharbot 13y ago
        > "the style shouldn't matter" While I certainly advocate that parents have the right to dress their kids in varied styles, I would highly advise against certain styles. "It doesn't matter" perhaps legally, but it does matter socially. (I work in an inner city school; I'm aware of at least two serious suicide comments by kids whose ages are in the single digits, at least partly due to social status.)
- im3w1l 13y ago
  >Do you really want me to explain to you why those are different scenarios? I basically agree with you. But, please do it anyway. It could be interesting.
tdfx 13y ago
They've made a determination that supporting their sociological viewpoints is more important than the high potential of social integration issues that will likely come from having raised their child that way. When you prioritize your opinions on social issues ahead of the welfare of your child, to that child's enduring detriment, that's definitely bad parenting. And, depending on who you ask, could be considered abusive.

Care to elaborate?

by phaer 13y ago

Care to elaborate?

adamnemecek 13y ago

"... couple that forces their boy to ..." Is that sufficient?

phaer 13y ago
Depends on what 'forces' means exactly in this case.
sjtrny 13y ago
"...eat their vegetables" is that abuse?
- adamnemecek 13y ago
  Do you really want me to explain to you why those are different scenarios? Would you think that it's child abuse if the parents made their kid wear a gimp suit with a gag ball? Also would you think it was abuse if they made the kid undergo some hormone therapy?
  - phaer 13y ago
    You don't need me to explain to you why your examples are completely different scenarios than letting your (male) child play with dolls or wear dresses, right? Please find some better examples if you are interested in a constructive discussion and you are not on some kind of crusade about your idea of parenting.
    - adamnemecek 13y ago
      We weren't talking about letting but about forcing.
      - Dylan16807 13y ago
        Forcing children to wear clothes is normal, and the style shouldn't matter as long as they are fitting and such. I don't think you can really 'force' a child to play, so I discount the part about playing with dolls being potentially 'abusive'.
        lotharbot 13y ago
        > "the style shouldn't matter" While I certainly advocate that parents have the right to dress their kids in varied styles, I would highly advise against certain styles. "It doesn't matter" perhaps legally, but it does matter socially. (I work in an inner city school; I'm aware of at least two serious suicide comments by kids whose ages are in the single digits, at least partly due to social status.)
im3w1l 13y ago
>Do you really want me to explain to you why those are different scenarios? I basically agree with you. But, please do it anyway. It could be interesting.

tdfx 13y ago

They've made a determination that supporting their sociological viewpoints is more important than the high potential of social integration issues that will likely come from having raised their child that way. When you prioritize your opinions on social issues ahead of the welfare of your child, to that child's enduring detriment, that's definitely bad parenting. And, depending on who you ask, could be considered abusive.