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Debian 7.4 Released

156 points by bbzealot 13y ago

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0x0 13y ago
Nice to see openssl enabling assembler implementations on arm. Seems to improve scp performance a lot!
robinson-wall 13y ago
I can't find any official announcement of it, but it looks like there are now official HVM AMIs available with the release of 7.4: https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Wheezy https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Wheezy
- justinsb 13y ago
  If you're running Debian on EC2, do you have the problem where restart from within the instance doesn't complete? (Have you found a way around it?) Edit: Not sure whether there was a real problem before (vs PEBKAC), but the new images _do_ reboot successfully (takes about 2 minutes). Now to get systemd running...!
  - robinson-wall 13y ago
    No, I'm not noticed this. That said, in the past (2years+) I have contacted AWS support about an instance that wouldn't start and was told shutting down from within an instance would normally work, but was not officially supported. I think they were just looking for a scapegoat in that particular case.
    - justinsb 13y ago
      Thanks. For anyone reading along, reboot does now work, and I was just able to install systemd (apt-get update, apt-get install systemd, edit /etc/default/grub, edit /etc/fstab to remove the systemd-unsupported nobootwait line, update-grub, init 6). Thank you Debian cloud team :-)
- robinson-wall 13y ago
  Ah. The debian-cloud mailing list announcement for the new images just landed in my inbox. The archive[1] has yet to update. [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2014/02/threads.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2014/02/threads.html
RexRollman 13y ago
I usually use Arch Linux but I've been playing with Debian lately. I don't like dpkg as much as I like pacman, but it a really nice distro (assuming the age of some of its software packages doesn't bother you).
- osivertsson 13y ago
  Sigh... People always remark on Debian having old packages. Well the "stable" repository might be stable which in this case means run-in-production-for-5+-years-on-many-archs without problems. But then there is "testing", and "unstable" too which gets newer packages quite often. I personally run "unstable" as my main development machine and have for many years. Even "unstable" is very stable, but might require some manual work once-a-year or so, with a solution often easily found by some google-fu. Then there is also "experimental", which might very well have broken dependencies etc. The cool thing is you can run stable, but then pick some packages from unstable using what is called apt-pinning. This way you can get a rock solid base, but use newer packages of some software. Best of both worlds!
  - sandGorgon 13y ago
    Hey thanks for "apt pinning". Never knew about that. One more question - how do you get the Ubuntu PPAs into Debian? It seems a lot of new software is exclusively published on Ubuntu.... at least that's what it seems from Webupd8 and omgbuntu
    - dfc 13y ago
      Answer to your question and method for figuring out other "how to do something ubuntu in debian" questions. A great way to answer a lot of these questions is simply use `apt-cache search` however this is not always enough. The next thing to try is apt-file. Install apt-file: # apt-get -y install apt-file Update apt-file db (might do this on install, I forget): # apt-file update Now the bit you are interested in: How do you add PPAs in ubuntu? Answer: `add-apt-repository` Does debian have something named add-apt-repository? # apt-file search add-apt-repository software-properties-common: /usr/bin/add-apt-repository software-properties-common: /usr/share/man/man1/add-apt-repository.1.gz That looks familiar. # apt-get install -y software-properties-common # add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa As a long time debian fanboy I have to say "new software is exclusively published on Ubuntu" was kind of funny. Unless you were talking about `upstart` ;) A great reseource for debian is the Debian Administrators Handbook. The section on pinning is: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html#sect.apt.priorities http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html#...
Havoc 13y ago
Does anyone have a link for a netinstall image hosted via BT? The one on the debian page is broken. https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
- RexRollman 13y ago
  I don't think the 7.4 images have pushed out yet. I always download the newest version, in case I need it, and its not available for me yet either.
marris 13y ago
There a typo in the HN title.
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urza 13y ago
What is the preferred way of upgrading from 7.3 with aptitude? On the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude they say dist-upgrade is no longer recommended, I am a bit confused (I don't keep up with linux world very much, I am just a linux hobbyist). Thanks.

Debian 7.4 Released

156 points by bbzealot 13y ago

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0x0 13y ago

Nice to see openssl enabling assembler implementations on arm. Seems to improve scp performance a lot!

robinson-wall 13y ago

I can't find any official announcement of it, but it looks like there are now official HVM AMIs available with the release of 7.4: https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Wheezy https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Wheezy

justinsb 13y ago
If you're running Debian on EC2, do you have the problem where restart from within the instance doesn't complete? (Have you found a way around it?) Edit: Not sure whether there was a real problem before (vs PEBKAC), but the new images _do_ reboot successfully (takes about 2 minutes). Now to get systemd running...!
- robinson-wall 13y ago
  No, I'm not noticed this. That said, in the past (2years+) I have contacted AWS support about an instance that wouldn't start and was told shutting down from within an instance would normally work, but was not officially supported. I think they were just looking for a scapegoat in that particular case.
  - justinsb 13y ago
    Thanks. For anyone reading along, reboot does now work, and I was just able to install systemd (apt-get update, apt-get install systemd, edit /etc/default/grub, edit /etc/fstab to remove the systemd-unsupported nobootwait line, update-grub, init 6). Thank you Debian cloud team :-)
robinson-wall 13y ago
Ah. The debian-cloud mailing list announcement for the new images just landed in my inbox. The archive[1] has yet to update. [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2014/02/threads.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2014/02/threads.html

RexRollman 13y ago

I usually use Arch Linux but I've been playing with Debian lately. I don't like dpkg as much as I like pacman, but it a really nice distro (assuming the age of some of its software packages doesn't bother you).

osivertsson 13y ago
Sigh... People always remark on Debian having old packages. Well the "stable" repository might be stable which in this case means run-in-production-for-5+-years-on-many-archs without problems. But then there is "testing", and "unstable" too which gets newer packages quite often. I personally run "unstable" as my main development machine and have for many years. Even "unstable" is very stable, but might require some manual work once-a-year or so, with a solution often easily found by some google-fu. Then there is also "experimental", which might very well have broken dependencies etc. The cool thing is you can run stable, but then pick some packages from unstable using what is called apt-pinning. This way you can get a rock solid base, but use newer packages of some software. Best of both worlds!
- sandGorgon 13y ago
  Hey thanks for "apt pinning". Never knew about that. One more question - how do you get the Ubuntu PPAs into Debian? It seems a lot of new software is exclusively published on Ubuntu.... at least that's what it seems from Webupd8 and omgbuntu
  - dfc 13y ago
    Answer to your question and method for figuring out other "how to do something ubuntu in debian" questions. A great way to answer a lot of these questions is simply use `apt-cache search` however this is not always enough. The next thing to try is apt-file. Install apt-file: # apt-get -y install apt-file Update apt-file db (might do this on install, I forget): # apt-file update Now the bit you are interested in: How do you add PPAs in ubuntu? Answer: `add-apt-repository` Does debian have something named add-apt-repository? # apt-file search add-apt-repository software-properties-common: /usr/bin/add-apt-repository software-properties-common: /usr/share/man/man1/add-apt-repository.1.gz That looks familiar. # apt-get install -y software-properties-common # add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa As a long time debian fanboy I have to say "new software is exclusively published on Ubuntu" was kind of funny. Unless you were talking about `upstart` ;) A great reseource for debian is the Debian Administrators Handbook. The section on pinning is: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html#sect.apt.priorities http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html#...

Havoc 13y ago

Does anyone have a link for a netinstall image hosted via BT? The one on the debian page is broken. https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

RexRollman 13y ago
I don't think the 7.4 images have pushed out yet. I always download the newest version, in case I need it, and its not available for me yet either.

marris 13y ago

There a typo in the HN title.

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urza 13y ago

What is the preferred way of upgrading from 7.3 with aptitude? On the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude they say dist-upgrade is no longer recommended, I am a bit confused (I don't keep up with linux world very much, I am just a linux hobbyist). Thanks.