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The contents of the hangout exist unencrypted in Google's data centres, which are of unclear jurisdiction, so the meetings are not suitable for any sort of conf

The contents of the hangout exist unencrypted in Google's data centres, which are of unclear jurisdiction, so the meetings are not suitable for any sort of confidential information.

nkozyra 13y ago
Then I think that would be better explained as saying "meetings with particularly sensitive information." The size of the company would not dictate that policy.
- atmosx 13y ago
  Not to mention that if you are afraid of Google exploiting your data, you'd probably have the same problem with the NSA so cisco, juniper and almost all other US-based vendors (and why not Chinese/Russian?) are out of question. You're left off with XAMPP and OpenSource tech?
  - bri3d 13y ago
    Most corporations are more concerned with whether or not the data goes "off-network" or offsite at all, not whether or not the intermediary hardware they own is compromised by three-letter agencies. At a previous job the building next door was a remote office for a non-IT part of a large non-tech company. They spent the money to get some kind of carrier line (maybe EPL/EVPL?) solely for teleconferencing. While the system is almost certainly not difficult to compromise for TLAs and others, they get assurance that the data hasn't left "their" network, I personally don't think there's much rhyme or reason to that particular permutation of those policies, but there is certainly a large group of buyers who are fine with potentially backdoored commercial products as long as "the data doesn't leave our network" and hence would not be OK with Google's solution.
  - pritambaral 13y ago
    I think you meant XMPP (XAMPP is a totally unsecured for-developers distribution of Apache+PHP+MySQL).
aiiane 13y ago
[citation needed]
tantalor 13y ago
"Google encrypts data amid backlash against NSA spying" http://wapo.st/1adFyAe http://wapo.st/1adFyAe
- fidotron 13y ago
  Nope - to reformat the video for different devices Hangouts have to be decrypted on the intermediary servers.
jfoster 13y ago
Is that much different to how Google's competitors in this space store data?

The contents of the hangout exist unencrypted in Google's data centres, which are of unclear jurisdiction, so the meetings are not suitable for any sort of confidential information.

nkozyra 13y ago

Then I think that would be better explained as saying "meetings with particularly sensitive information." The size of the company would not dictate that policy.

atmosx 13y ago
Not to mention that if you are afraid of Google exploiting your data, you'd probably have the same problem with the NSA so cisco, juniper and almost all other US-based vendors (and why not Chinese/Russian?) are out of question. You're left off with XAMPP and OpenSource tech?
- bri3d 13y ago
  Most corporations are more concerned with whether or not the data goes "off-network" or offsite at all, not whether or not the intermediary hardware they own is compromised by three-letter agencies. At a previous job the building next door was a remote office for a non-IT part of a large non-tech company. They spent the money to get some kind of carrier line (maybe EPL/EVPL?) solely for teleconferencing. While the system is almost certainly not difficult to compromise for TLAs and others, they get assurance that the data hasn't left "their" network, I personally don't think there's much rhyme or reason to that particular permutation of those policies, but there is certainly a large group of buyers who are fine with potentially backdoored commercial products as long as "the data doesn't leave our network" and hence would not be OK with Google's solution.
- pritambaral 13y ago
  I think you meant XMPP (XAMPP is a totally unsecured for-developers distribution of Apache+PHP+MySQL).

aiiane 13y ago

[citation needed]

tantalor 13y ago

"Google encrypts data amid backlash against NSA spying" http://wapo.st/1adFyAe http://wapo.st/1adFyAe

fidotron 13y ago
Nope - to reformat the video for different devices Hangouts have to be decrypted on the intermediary servers.

jfoster 13y ago

Is that much different to how Google's competitors in this space store data?