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Lenovo? I always thought Lenovo was the PC equivalent of MacBooks. Well, HP tried but they have massive heat outlets at the side of the machine that burn you, a

Lenovo? I always thought Lenovo was the PC equivalent of MacBooks. Well, HP tried but they have massive heat outlets at the side of the machine that burn you, and the Samsung Series 7 came close but doesn't have the same build quality, and has a stupid power adapter. So yes, perhaps Sony and Lenovo?

goldfeld 13y ago
Way I see it, Lenovo makes rugged, durable and dependable machines, but they lack the finish/style in VAIO or MacBooks (then again I haven't seen what Lenovo has been up to lately, so might be completely off.) So when people say there's nothing like a Mac, I mostly agree and understand where they're coming from even though I much prefer a cheaper machine on which to run Linux. I'm unaware of anything in the PC world to match Apple's high finish + dependability/durability. Also the screen is worth it on it's own, alternatives lacking.
- 12345educate 13y ago
  Apple's screens are lacking compared to similar priced Vials/PCs (the TFT screens on the 11" MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro are particularly atrocious). Viaos are often lighter than similar priced Macbooks and are more durable. Apple's differentiation is not a supposedly unique high finish + dependability — although they are unique for only selling high end computers — but the Apple retail stores and easily upsold AppleCare (available up to a year after purchase of a macbook). Most PC users call their 'computer guy' relative when their PC breaks. In contrast most Apple users take their broken device to the Apple Store. That professional service is why most Macs stay in circulation longer
  - seanmcdirmid 13y ago
    The two vaios I used after the 505g were utter cheap pieces of crap, and they haven't seemed to do much better recently. Whatever your beef with Apple is, saying that Sony is actually better in quality is crazy.
- calvin_c 13y ago
  While the most recognizable Lenovo is the ThinkPad line, which is a very capable but very dated looking machine, I recently worked on an IdeaPad U430 (I work in computer repair), and was surprised by how nice that machine was. It's build quality and style really reminded me of my MacBook air. So it seems like while the rugged and durable machines are where Lenovo is still getting most of their money, that design was inherited from IBM, while Lenovo is trying to focus on new machines with style and finish.
jotm 13y ago
Dells are the PC equivalent to MacBooks. Lenovo makes cheap plastic devices that crap out under load and take forever to be repaired/replaced. IBM had better quality control.
- nly 13y ago
  Lenovo have at least 20 laptop product lines. It's a generalization to call them all cheap plasticcrap, as they really do cover the entire spectrum. I also don't see how Dell compete with the MBPs at all.
  - jotm 13y ago
    Yeah, I've had bad experience with the Ideapads. Dell's new Latitudes can easily compete with the MBP when it comes to design, price, performance and features.
- seanmcdirmid 13y ago
  My X1 has been quite good so far...except for the track pad, what is up with PCs and track pads????
w1ntermute 13y ago
> Lenovo? They were, before they started doing gimmicky shit like this: http://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/01/stop-trying-to-innovate-keyboards-youre-just-making-them-worse/ http://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/01/stop-trying-to-innovate...

goldfeld 13y ago

Way I see it, Lenovo makes rugged, durable and dependable machines, but they lack the finish/style in VAIO or MacBooks (then again I haven't seen what Lenovo has been up to lately, so might be completely off.) So when people say there's nothing like a Mac, I mostly agree and understand where they're coming from even though I much prefer a cheaper machine on which to run Linux. I'm unaware of anything in the PC world to match Apple's high finish + dependability/durability. Also the screen is worth it on it's own, alternatives lacking.

12345educate 13y ago
Apple's screens are lacking compared to similar priced Vials/PCs (the TFT screens on the 11" MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro are particularly atrocious). Viaos are often lighter than similar priced Macbooks and are more durable. Apple's differentiation is not a supposedly unique high finish + dependability — although they are unique for only selling high end computers — but the Apple retail stores and easily upsold AppleCare (available up to a year after purchase of a macbook). Most PC users call their 'computer guy' relative when their PC breaks. In contrast most Apple users take their broken device to the Apple Store. That professional service is why most Macs stay in circulation longer
- seanmcdirmid 13y ago
  The two vaios I used after the 505g were utter cheap pieces of crap, and they haven't seemed to do much better recently. Whatever your beef with Apple is, saying that Sony is actually better in quality is crazy.
calvin_c 13y ago
While the most recognizable Lenovo is the ThinkPad line, which is a very capable but very dated looking machine, I recently worked on an IdeaPad U430 (I work in computer repair), and was surprised by how nice that machine was. It's build quality and style really reminded me of my MacBook air. So it seems like while the rugged and durable machines are where Lenovo is still getting most of their money, that design was inherited from IBM, while Lenovo is trying to focus on new machines with style and finish.

jotm 13y ago

Dells are the PC equivalent to MacBooks. Lenovo makes cheap plastic devices that crap out under load and take forever to be repaired/replaced. IBM had better quality control.

nly 13y ago
Lenovo have at least 20 laptop product lines. It's a generalization to call them all cheap plasticcrap, as they really do cover the entire spectrum. I also don't see how Dell compete with the MBPs at all.
- jotm 13y ago
  Yeah, I've had bad experience with the Ideapads. Dell's new Latitudes can easily compete with the MBP when it comes to design, price, performance and features.
seanmcdirmid 13y ago
My X1 has been quite good so far...except for the track pad, what is up with PCs and track pads????

w1ntermute 13y ago

> Lenovo? They were, before they started doing gimmicky shit like this: http://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/01/stop-trying-to-innovate-keyboards-youre-just-making-them-worse/ http://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/01/stop-trying-to-innovate...