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20k+ lines of wave protocol code released today (wave federation day)

58 points by enki 17y ago

Oompa 17y ago
Awesome. Maybe someone will make a good desktop client for Wave, which if you ask me, is needed for it to replace email.
- stevejohnson 17y ago
  I agree. Wave is complex enough that people are going to want to use their OS's native interface with it, for both usability and speed reasons.
  - Oompa 17y ago
    Email isn't that complex, and I still prefer using Mail.app to Gmail's web interface.
    - philwelch 17y ago
      Me too, but we're in the minority.
    - sfphotoarts 17y ago
      I think you mean complicated not complex, but either way gmail's advantage isn't only the UX, there are many other advantages of the mail being hosted on the web. I think for most these other advantages far outweigh any UI/UX considerations.
- zacharypinter 17y ago
  I'll be happy with a good emacs mode.
enki 17y ago
http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/wiki/Installation http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/wiki/Installation instructions just went online
myared 17y ago
Interesting. Is this at the point where one could just buy a slice, run a server, and play around with the client or is Google holding some piece back until they open up their implementation to the public?
- oomkiller 17y ago
  The most I've been able to achieve is to get the server running with Openfire (but it would probably work with ejabberd too). I can verify that it is connected to the external components part of Openfire, so I believe the server is setup correctly. I have also been able to get the basic example client they include running, but it did take some hacking, and I have not been able to successfully connect to my server yet, much less work with waves. I don't see ANY web-gui code in any of this, so I seriously doubt it's what you're looking for. If you want to setup the reference server and play around with it, you can now do that, anything else is iffy at best.
Bjoern 17y ago
I hear people saying oh great that will replace eMail.. don't think so. M$ and others tried that and failed, why should it be different now? Google will try to keep a crucial piece of the pie like M$ does with the .NET platform.
- Bjoern 17y ago
  You can downvote me to infinity. Google is a company and as such it is only interested in earning money, everything else is second.
  - schwanksta 17y ago
    Pretty sure it's because you wrote "M$", not what you said about G¢¢gle.
Loic 17y ago
Is it me or 20k+ lines for a protocol implementation sounds like an over engineered system which is bound to fail?

58 points by enki 17y ago

Oompa 17y ago

Awesome. Maybe someone will make a good desktop client for Wave, which if you ask me, is needed for it to replace email.

stevejohnson 17y ago
I agree. Wave is complex enough that people are going to want to use their OS's native interface with it, for both usability and speed reasons.
- Oompa 17y ago
  Email isn't that complex, and I still prefer using Mail.app to Gmail's web interface.
  - philwelch 17y ago
    Me too, but we're in the minority.
  - sfphotoarts 17y ago
    I think you mean complicated not complex, but either way gmail's advantage isn't only the UX, there are many other advantages of the mail being hosted on the web. I think for most these other advantages far outweigh any UI/UX considerations.
zacharypinter 17y ago
I'll be happy with a good emacs mode.

enki 17y ago

http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/wiki/Installation http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/wiki/Installation instructions just went online

myared 17y ago

Interesting. Is this at the point where one could just buy a slice, run a server, and play around with the client or is Google holding some piece back until they open up their implementation to the public?

oomkiller 17y ago
The most I've been able to achieve is to get the server running with Openfire (but it would probably work with ejabberd too). I can verify that it is connected to the external components part of Openfire, so I believe the server is setup correctly. I have also been able to get the basic example client they include running, but it did take some hacking, and I have not been able to successfully connect to my server yet, much less work with waves. I don't see ANY web-gui code in any of this, so I seriously doubt it's what you're looking for. If you want to setup the reference server and play around with it, you can now do that, anything else is iffy at best.

Bjoern 17y ago

I hear people saying oh great that will replace eMail.. don't think so. M$ and others tried that and failed, why should it be different now? Google will try to keep a crucial piece of the pie like M$ does with the .NET platform.

Bjoern 17y ago
You can downvote me to infinity. Google is a company and as such it is only interested in earning money, everything else is second.
- schwanksta 17y ago
  Pretty sure it's because you wrote "M$", not what you said about G¢¢gle.

Loic 17y ago

Is it me or 20k+ lines for a protocol implementation sounds like an over engineered system which is bound to fail?