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My wife and I both work full time in demanding jobs, and we have a 4-month old. I'm in the process of setting up a business with a friend for pretty much one r

My wife and I both work full time in demanding jobs, and we have a 4-month old. I'm in the process of setting up a business with a friend for pretty much one reason - we want to work full time and be close to our kids. Part of the plan involves either having a daycare section in our workplace, or our workplace being a couple of minutes walk from our daycare. It's 2014, I want to be able to play with my son during my coffee breaks and lunch. And I'm sure as hell not dumping the responsibility for my kid on my wife..

sitkack 13y ago
I solved this by getting more wives.
- elwell 13y ago
  Seems counter-intuitive... but it just might work.
- junto 13y ago
  I'm struggling to keep one wife happy. You must be crazy! :)
- deleted 13y ago
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elwell 13y ago
Having your own business is much more demanding than a full-time job.
- jakobe 13y ago
  that's bullshit. Having your own business lets you decide yourself how much you work. You can spend 80 hours a week on your business, or you can spend 30 hours a week on your business. I chose the latter, and it works just fine. (but I don't have any employees, maybe that would change things) On top of that, I have the freedom to just stay at home and take the kids to the zoo when I don't feel like working.
  - perbu 13y ago
    Having employees make the difference. If you don't have employees you're more or less like a freelancer, which is significantly different from carrying the responsibility for a whole bunch of people.
    - dools 13y ago
      I employ between 5 and 12 people depending on my workload. I just don't have to provide an office because they're all remote.
  - shin_lao 13y ago
    Depends on what you call a business. A business can be a bakery or an international software publisher. You're right when you hint that having employees might change everything: it does. Don't forget that remote work also exists when being employed so I would not say flexibility is "be your own boss" related.
  - radicalbyte 13y ago
    Exactly. We're going down the Freelance/Consultant route whilst working on our own products in the downtime, growing those products until they outpace the consultancy. We'll use a shared platform for the products which will allow us to amortize the development costs over all of the products. Hopefully we can grow them to the point where we can hire people to manage the products day-to-day whilst we focus on new ventures. We've got an end-game in mind, which involves leveraging the fact that a vast swathe of industries have only scratched the surface of what is possible with automation. "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is King". But I'm getting ahead of myself now :)
- dools 13y ago
  Not necessarily. Having your own business might take the same number of hours as a full-time job, but you have much less commute time. Also you can decide when to work a lot of the time. If you set things up right, sometimes you don't have to work at all. The old adage "work smart, not hard" has become trite and meaningless, and when I first started out in business I thought it was scammy bullshit. But now I work 3 days per week and take care of my kids every Tuesday and Thursday. I work from home and see them all the time. Sure I don't make much money but we get by and I'd rather live on less money now while I watch my kids grow up than spend all my time working. I guess what having your own business gives you more than anything is choice: choice about when and how you work, choice about who you work with and choice about how much money you want to make.
rayiner 13y ago
Even if you can find this sort of daycare setup, good luck getting your kid into it. My building (federal building in Philadelphia) has one, and we're still on the waiting list 5 months into my job, and almost a year after applying. Several law firms and agencies in D.C. have on-site day cares, but you need to sign up probably two years in advance.

sitkack 13y ago

I solved this by getting more wives.

elwell 13y ago
Seems counter-intuitive... but it just might work.
junto 13y ago
I'm struggling to keep one wife happy. You must be crazy! :)
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elwell 13y ago

Having your own business is much more demanding than a full-time job.

jakobe 13y ago
that's bullshit. Having your own business lets you decide yourself how much you work. You can spend 80 hours a week on your business, or you can spend 30 hours a week on your business. I chose the latter, and it works just fine. (but I don't have any employees, maybe that would change things) On top of that, I have the freedom to just stay at home and take the kids to the zoo when I don't feel like working.
- perbu 13y ago
  Having employees make the difference. If you don't have employees you're more or less like a freelancer, which is significantly different from carrying the responsibility for a whole bunch of people.
  - dools 13y ago
    I employ between 5 and 12 people depending on my workload. I just don't have to provide an office because they're all remote.
- shin_lao 13y ago
  Depends on what you call a business. A business can be a bakery or an international software publisher. You're right when you hint that having employees might change everything: it does. Don't forget that remote work also exists when being employed so I would not say flexibility is "be your own boss" related.
- radicalbyte 13y ago
  Exactly. We're going down the Freelance/Consultant route whilst working on our own products in the downtime, growing those products until they outpace the consultancy. We'll use a shared platform for the products which will allow us to amortize the development costs over all of the products. Hopefully we can grow them to the point where we can hire people to manage the products day-to-day whilst we focus on new ventures. We've got an end-game in mind, which involves leveraging the fact that a vast swathe of industries have only scratched the surface of what is possible with automation. "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is King". But I'm getting ahead of myself now :)
dools 13y ago
Not necessarily. Having your own business might take the same number of hours as a full-time job, but you have much less commute time. Also you can decide when to work a lot of the time. If you set things up right, sometimes you don't have to work at all. The old adage "work smart, not hard" has become trite and meaningless, and when I first started out in business I thought it was scammy bullshit. But now I work 3 days per week and take care of my kids every Tuesday and Thursday. I work from home and see them all the time. Sure I don't make much money but we get by and I'd rather live on less money now while I watch my kids grow up than spend all my time working. I guess what having your own business gives you more than anything is choice: choice about when and how you work, choice about who you work with and choice about how much money you want to make.

rayiner 13y ago

Even if you can find this sort of daycare setup, good luck getting your kid into it. My building (federal building in Philadelphia) has one, and we're still on the waiting list 5 months into my job, and almost a year after applying. Several law firms and agencies in D.C. have on-site day cares, but you need to sign up probably two years in advance.