I think it is cool that both estimates of entropy come to the same number, but that still seems like the wrong way to look at the approach even if Randall didn'

I think it is cool that both estimates of entropy come to the same number, but that still seems like the wrong way to look at the approach even if Randall didn't intend it that way. The NIST entropy estimation is based off of characters that aren't chosen at random (I think?) and it is a heuristic. For the approach I think Randall intended to describe they aren't really words, just glyphs chosen randomly from a set of glyphs. That these glyphs are easy to memorize and drop right into existing password interfaces is orthogonal.