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I hate to break it to you, but religion is just a ruse to help people come to grips with their mortalities. It's extremely unlikely beyond belief that there is

by kunai 13y ago

I hate to break it to you, but religion is just a ruse to help people come to grips with their mortalities. It's extremely unlikely beyond belief that there is any notion of heaven or hell in this universe. I don't want to start a religious war. I just don't want you to be let down when you're on your deathbed 30, 40, 50, 60 years from now.

benjohnson 13y ago
As a Christian, I would agree that there is no heaven in this universe. God is out of place and time.
- MichaelGG 13y ago
  What does that even mean? Making up meaningless deep-sounding statements doesn't really further any argument. Here's some I just made up: "We shouldn't fear death any more than an unborn baby fears birth. Death is our true birth." "Everyone has faith. The only difference is that some people try to define faith, while others let faith define them." "The world absolutely runs on discoverable physical laws - no exceptions! But my freedom comes from knowing God is those laws."
  - mietek 13y ago
    Assume the universe is not just computable [1], but actually computed, that is, running as a virtual machine under a hypervisor. How do we detect the presence of the hypervisor and break out of virtualisation? [2] Bonus: What is the name of the sysadmin? [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pill_(software)#Other_uses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pill_(software)#Other_uses
  - matwood 13y ago
    Sounds like you are ready to start your own church.
sdegutis 13y ago
Thanks for your sympathy. But I've done my homework. Jesus did actually rise from the dead. Research it and you'll come to the same conclusion. I don't have many books on it, but I'd probably start with Handbook of Catholic Apologetics[1] by Kreeft and Tacelli. [1]: http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Catholic-Apologetics-Reasoned-Questions/dp/1586172794 http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Catholic-Apologetics-Reasoned...
- strathmeyer 13y ago
  We did research it, but don't worry, your insults don't affect us much anymore.
  - sdegutis 13y ago
    My insults? I didn't insult anyone. Why do you think I did?
- sdegutis 13y ago
  In retrospect, this comment does sound kind of rude, although I meant no harm. I shouldn't have posted it at 3am, but I can't delete it now. So all I can do is say "I'm sorry".
mrmincent 13y ago
belief systems are tools for living in the world. If it is a ruse that helps them live their lives happily and with purpose, then it is a useful ruse. I myself had a lot of fun with discordianism.

by kunai 13y ago

benjohnson 13y ago

As a Christian, I would agree that there is no heaven in this universe. God is out of place and time.

MichaelGG 13y ago
What does that even mean? Making up meaningless deep-sounding statements doesn't really further any argument. Here's some I just made up: "We shouldn't fear death any more than an unborn baby fears birth. Death is our true birth." "Everyone has faith. The only difference is that some people try to define faith, while others let faith define them." "The world absolutely runs on discoverable physical laws - no exceptions! But my freedom comes from knowing God is those laws."
- mietek 13y ago
  Assume the universe is not just computable [1], but actually computed, that is, running as a virtual machine under a hypervisor. How do we detect the presence of the hypervisor and break out of virtualisation? [2] Bonus: What is the name of the sysadmin? [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pill_(software)#Other_uses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pill_(software)#Other_uses
- matwood 13y ago
  Sounds like you are ready to start your own church.

sdegutis 13y ago

Thanks for your sympathy. But I've done my homework. Jesus did actually rise from the dead. Research it and you'll come to the same conclusion. I don't have many books on it, but I'd probably start with Handbook of Catholic Apologetics[1] by Kreeft and Tacelli. [1]: http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Catholic-Apologetics-Reasoned-Questions/dp/1586172794 http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Catholic-Apologetics-Reasoned...

strathmeyer 13y ago
We did research it, but don't worry, your insults don't affect us much anymore.
- sdegutis 13y ago
  My insults? I didn't insult anyone. Why do you think I did?
sdegutis 13y ago
In retrospect, this comment does sound kind of rude, although I meant no harm. I shouldn't have posted it at 3am, but I can't delete it now. So all I can do is say "I'm sorry".

mrmincent 13y ago

belief systems are tools for living in the world. If it is a ruse that helps them live their lives happily and with purpose, then it is a useful ruse. I myself had a lot of fun with discordianism.