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Yeah, motorola products have completely gone down the toilet after that acquisition. They were so great before with fast updates and a wonderful skin of android

by psbp 13y ago

Yeah, motorola products have completely gone down the toilet after that acquisition. They were so great before with fast updates and a wonderful skin of android, and now they're either non-innovative or way too overpriced for the value.

AshleysBrain 13y ago
Like the Moto G?
- eclipxe 13y ago
  Sarcasm
- psbp 13y ago
  Exactly a phone with an S4 pro for $180?!?! A complete rip-off I tell you.
staticfish 13y ago
I think there a lot of things to bash Google on, but the outcome of Motorola is not one of them. The G and X look like great phones and they were all pieces of shit before.
- riggins 13y ago
  the parent comment was sarcasm. I immediately thought 'google will tie this into your google phone for you. That could be pretty nice.'
  - danudey 13y ago
    I think the concern is that they'll tie it into their data collections practices. An online page to manage your thermostat(s) remotely and grant access to the API, but you have to sign in with your Google+ account to access it.
- corresation 13y ago
  pspb is clearly making an ill-advised attempt at sarcasm.
  - gqvijay 13y ago
    I don't mind sarcasm as long it's marked "<sarcasm>...</sarcasm>" at the least.
- deleted 13y ago
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Aaronn 13y ago
The Moto X and G are a really GOOD value...
- shitlord 13y ago
  I hope the next Nexus phone is made by Motorola. I really like the body of their devices. I wanted to get a Moto X developer edition but it was too expensive, unfortunately.
raverbashing 13y ago
Let's hope you're being ironic :)
- azernik 13y ago
  "Fast updates"? "Wonderful skin of Android"? Yes, that's sarcasm. MotoBlur was a prime example of egregious and UX-destroying vendor meddling with Android.
arikrak 13y ago
Yeah, and like Android and Youtube. Sarcasm aside, Google has actually done pretty well with acquisitions compared to other companies. (Say ones that begin with "M" or "Y"). You can see the list in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisition...
- pwnna 13y ago
  While I agree with the statement, lately Google's action has been concerning (with things like Reader, Google+ push, and what not). I just don't want to see Google dominating the world. Competition is nice.
  - psbp 13y ago
    Are you implying that google did a disservice to the competition by creating a desire for a product and then retiring it with months of warning for competitors to develop their product and attract google's large user base while allowing users to easily migrate their information to those services?
    - vdaniuk 13y ago
      That is actually a very good point. With all the lamenting of Google Reader sunsetting, positive externalities are ignored. And they are plentiful: multiple startups have springed up to compete for new audience, established companies like Feedly have experienced an influx of users and the landscape generally became much more competitive.
    - BugBrother 13y ago
      I agree with vdaniuk, that it is a good point. It changed my mind a bit. On consideration, I'm a big fan of Google, Apple and Amazon. The thing that makes me (and probably others) nervous about all three is that they are too big. For instance, a monopolist strategy (Microsoft style) might appear someday.
    - danudey 13y ago
ececconi 13y ago
You're being sarcastic right? Sorry if it's a dumb question.
- psbp 13y ago
  Everything I just said is the exact opposite of reality, so yes.
  - jt2190 13y ago
    Poe's law explains why sarcasm doesn't work on the internet: "Without a blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of extremism or fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing." [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law (edit: Poe's Law always reminds me of this SNL skit where Fred Armisen tells Jimmy Fallon that the right way to tell a joke is to use a "catch phrase": http://video.tvguide.com/Saturday+Night+Live/Weekend+Update+Segment++Fericito/9308581 http://video.tvguide.com/Saturday+Night+Live/Weekend+Update+...)
    - deleted 13y ago
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    - wutbrodo 13y ago
      Well not exactly: the one(?) form of sarcasm that works very well is when the facts being stated are clearly false. Though obviously this does rely on the audience knowing the factual background...
      - CoryG89 13y ago
        It relies on more than that. Not only does this rely on the audience to know the factual background, but it also relies on them coming to the conclusion that you also know the factual background and are not just uninformed, misinformed, or plain wrong. Sarcasm on the internet only works well between people who are familiar with one another.
periferral 13y ago
(sarcasm) - use it!
cabbeer 13y ago
Please, no more sarcasm. you've filled this thread with confusion.
- psbp 13y ago
  Sorry, I thought for those in the know, every point would be remarkably false. 1) http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-the-moto-x-on-verizon-gets-the-first-kitkat-update-and-its-starting-today/ http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-th... 2) http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-m-review-this-is-what-budget-phones-are-like-now-where-do-i-sign-up/#motoblur http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-... 3) https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-moto-x-outpaces-competiti https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-m... 4) http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8 http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8
  - kibibu 13y ago
    Not everybody follows the details of OS version updates on Motorola phones.
    - enraged_camel 13y ago
      Yep. I'll go even further: in this case, "not everybody" means "nobody."
      - shitlord 13y ago
        Nobody, aside from the people on XDA and /r/Android. And maybe a few on HN.
        benbojangles 13y ago
        If i'm not mistaken, Google has been dipping it's toes in home automation for some time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-into-home-automation-with-energysense-thermostat-leak/ http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-int... To acquire home statistics. Can you imagine the personal data gathering? And the $ value attached to that data? All sweetened with sugar for you to buy the product, connect, and give your data for free. Oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall and look at who exactly is pulling these strings. Government? - Which ones Private equity? - Which sticky hands Other Countries? - Which ones & what would the data be worth to them? This is why I disapprove of services such as: Google glass, Home automation data gathering, Car & transport data gathering. I'm not an 'all-or-nothing' kind of guy, but sheesh.... And that 23andMe DNA gathering product: https://www.23andme.com/ https://www.23andme.com/ It's like a totalitarian wet dream.
mrinterweb 13y ago
sarcasm detector is reading off the meter... sarcasm detector broken
xanth 13y ago
!I wish sarcasm punctuation caught on⸮
ajcarpy2005 13y ago
If you must use sarcasm, here are a couple of common ways: 1) Yeah...because>(rest of comment) [the ellipsis will clarify that the comment is sarcasm at least some of the time but its reliability is not perfect] 2) end your comment with '/s' [most people know this means the previous comment was meant as sarcasm. it should be the preferred method of communicating sarcasm and the sentiment that the referenced recipient is obviously wrong]

by psbp 13y ago

AshleysBrain 13y ago

Like the Moto G?

eclipxe 13y ago
Sarcasm
psbp 13y ago
Exactly a phone with an S4 pro for $180?!?! A complete rip-off I tell you.

staticfish 13y ago

I think there a lot of things to bash Google on, but the outcome of Motorola is not one of them. The G and X look like great phones and they were all pieces of shit before.

riggins 13y ago
the parent comment was sarcasm. I immediately thought 'google will tie this into your google phone for you. That could be pretty nice.'
- danudey 13y ago
  I think the concern is that they'll tie it into their data collections practices. An online page to manage your thermostat(s) remotely and grant access to the API, but you have to sign in with your Google+ account to access it.
corresation 13y ago
pspb is clearly making an ill-advised attempt at sarcasm.
- gqvijay 13y ago
  I don't mind sarcasm as long it's marked "<sarcasm>...</sarcasm>" at the least.
deleted 13y ago
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Aaronn 13y ago

The Moto X and G are a really GOOD value...

shitlord 13y ago
I hope the next Nexus phone is made by Motorola. I really like the body of their devices. I wanted to get a Moto X developer edition but it was too expensive, unfortunately.

raverbashing 13y ago

Let's hope you're being ironic :)

azernik 13y ago
"Fast updates"? "Wonderful skin of Android"? Yes, that's sarcasm. MotoBlur was a prime example of egregious and UX-destroying vendor meddling with Android.

arikrak 13y ago

Yeah, and like Android and Youtube. Sarcasm aside, Google has actually done pretty well with acquisitions compared to other companies. (Say ones that begin with "M" or "Y"). You can see the list in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisition...

pwnna 13y ago
While I agree with the statement, lately Google's action has been concerning (with things like Reader, Google+ push, and what not). I just don't want to see Google dominating the world. Competition is nice.
- psbp 13y ago
  Are you implying that google did a disservice to the competition by creating a desire for a product and then retiring it with months of warning for competitors to develop their product and attract google's large user base while allowing users to easily migrate their information to those services?
  - vdaniuk 13y ago
    That is actually a very good point. With all the lamenting of Google Reader sunsetting, positive externalities are ignored. And they are plentiful: multiple startups have springed up to compete for new audience, established companies like Feedly have experienced an influx of users and the landscape generally became much more competitive.
  - BugBrother 13y ago
    I agree with vdaniuk, that it is a good point. It changed my mind a bit. On consideration, I'm a big fan of Google, Apple and Amazon. The thing that makes me (and probably others) nervous about all three is that they are too big. For instance, a monopolist strategy (Microsoft style) might appear someday.
  - danudey 13y ago

ececconi 13y ago

You're being sarcastic right? Sorry if it's a dumb question.

psbp 13y ago
Everything I just said is the exact opposite of reality, so yes.
- jt2190 13y ago
  Poe's law explains why sarcasm doesn't work on the internet: "Without a blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of extremism or fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing." [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law (edit: Poe's Law always reminds me of this SNL skit where Fred Armisen tells Jimmy Fallon that the right way to tell a joke is to use a "catch phrase": http://video.tvguide.com/Saturday+Night+Live/Weekend+Update+Segment++Fericito/9308581 http://video.tvguide.com/Saturday+Night+Live/Weekend+Update+...)
  - deleted 13y ago
    [deleted]
  - wutbrodo 13y ago
    Well not exactly: the one(?) form of sarcasm that works very well is when the facts being stated are clearly false. Though obviously this does rely on the audience knowing the factual background...
    - CoryG89 13y ago
      It relies on more than that. Not only does this rely on the audience to know the factual background, but it also relies on them coming to the conclusion that you also know the factual background and are not just uninformed, misinformed, or plain wrong. Sarcasm on the internet only works well between people who are familiar with one another.

periferral 13y ago

(sarcasm) - use it!

cabbeer 13y ago

Please, no more sarcasm. you've filled this thread with confusion.

psbp 13y ago
Sorry, I thought for those in the know, every point would be remarkably false. 1) http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-the-moto-x-on-verizon-gets-the-first-kitkat-update-and-its-starting-today/ http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-th... 2) http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-m-review-this-is-what-budget-phones-are-like-now-where-do-i-sign-up/#motoblur http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-... 3) https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-moto-x-outpaces-competiti https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-m... 4) http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8 http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8
- kibibu 13y ago
  Not everybody follows the details of OS version updates on Motorola phones.
  - enraged_camel 13y ago
    Yep. I'll go even further: in this case, "not everybody" means "nobody."
    - shitlord 13y ago
      Nobody, aside from the people on XDA and /r/Android. And maybe a few on HN.
      - benbojangles 13y ago
        If i'm not mistaken, Google has been dipping it's toes in home automation for some time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-into-home-automation-with-energysense-thermostat-leak/ http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-int... To acquire home statistics. Can you imagine the personal data gathering? And the $ value attached to that data? All sweetened with sugar for you to buy the product, connect, and give your data for free. Oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall and look at who exactly is pulling these strings. Government? - Which ones Private equity? - Which sticky hands Other Countries? - Which ones & what would the data be worth to them? This is why I disapprove of services such as: Google glass, Home automation data gathering, Car & transport data gathering. I'm not an 'all-or-nothing' kind of guy, but sheesh.... And that 23andMe DNA gathering product: https://www.23andme.com/ https://www.23andme.com/ It's like a totalitarian wet dream.

mrinterweb 13y ago

sarcasm detector is reading off the meter... sarcasm detector broken

xanth 13y ago

!I wish sarcasm punctuation caught on⸮

ajcarpy2005 13y ago

If you must use sarcasm, here are a couple of common ways: 1) Yeah...because>(rest of comment) [the ellipsis will clarify that the comment is sarcasm at least some of the time but its reliability is not perfect] 2) end your comment with '/s' [most people know this means the previous comment was meant as sarcasm. it should be the preferred method of communicating sarcasm and the sentiment that the referenced recipient is obviously wrong]