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Its strange how casually they mention her friends who are in law enforcement who do illegal searches for her.

by latj 13y ago

pwnna 13y ago
Yup. That was weird. Or not. I suppose.
enjo 13y ago
It's unclear to me if those searches are illegal or not.
- baddox 13y ago
  I doubt the searches themselves are illegal. Presumably those officers have legal access to those databases. It might be illegal to disclose the information to a civilian, and at the very least I hope it is against department rules.
  - qdog 13y ago
    Also not clear what kind of searches those are. It sounds like it could have been public records of ongoing court cases. I suppose the question to ask is who reviews these types of talks (no doubt many agents talk to PIs etc.) to make sure nothing illegal is happening.
yarou 13y ago
Not at all strange, people have gotten used to being surveilled is all. Maybe she can help find the missing node.js guy as mentioned here: http://blog.izs.me/post/72990767417/a-member-of-our-community-is-missing-help-find-him http://blog.izs.me/post/72990767417/a-member-of-our-communit...
- atmosx 13y ago
  We could raise some money... I don't know the guy, but still the idea is intriguing... Are we sure the guy actually WANTS to be found?
  - yarou 13y ago
    That's an interesting point, some people just want to disappear. I read a long time ago when I was younger, on a local BBS, a guide to fully disappearing. Some people just don't want to be found; this can be true freedom depending on who you ask.
    - latj 13y ago
      If so he convinced me with his final broadcasts. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536683/Yahoo-hires-private-investigator-missing-programmer-Luke-Arduini.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536683/Yahoo-hires-...
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    - gscott 13y ago
      Since he was on Top 10 lists for defrauding the Government I imagine he doesn't expect much privacy for his data.
tokenadult 13y ago
I had to go back to the article to find the exact passage you were referring to. "Puzzled, Gomez resorted to a resource she taps only rarely: the help of friends at federal agencies, friends for whom she has done favors and who in return are willing to let her check her information against government databases. 'Their databases turn up what we call ‘trace details’ that you can’t get with the databases available to ordinary citizens,' Gomez says: phone numbers, addresses, company and individual names that have in some way been associated." Depending on the status of the underlying civil recovery action that prompted someone to hire the bounty hunter, there may have been legal grounds for her to have that "access," especially if what she was doing was saying, "Here are some dots that I think connect in this way, can you tell me, yes or no, if this makes any sense?" But, yes, depending on the exact rules involved of what agency, and what the bounty hunter is pursuing in what case, and what was asked and answered, this could be illegal. Or not. It's not entirely sure if anything illegal was done in what was reported in that paragraph. The term "illegal search" has a much more specific meaning in legal language.
michaelwww 13y ago
The guy had a case against him. I thought it was common for law enforcement and bounty hunters to cooperate. It wouldn't be wise to assume otherwise.
JRobertson 13y ago
I worked for a company that required CJIS(Criminal Justice Information Systems) certification to work on their products. The software dealt with law enforcement so we occasionally had access to live criminal records. Every year we had to re-certify and one of the major points they emphasized and re-emphasized was that it was a felony to search for anything for a friend or even out of curiosity. You only had a legal right to access and view information if you had a specific reason dealing with a current case. So, if they let her access any of those databases it was most definitely a felony. But as others have said it could have been public record databases and not something protected under CJIS.
Systemic33 13y ago
There is a longer discussion on the site's comment section about the legality, and the short version is that she has legal access to the databases since she is a licensed private investigator, which apparently is very easy to get in Texas.
atmosx 13y ago
If you do this kind of job, that is to be expected...
girvo 13y ago
According to Yelp[0], that's not the only illegal part... This company is run by a bunch of crooks. They towed my legally parked vehicle for no reason from the front of my apartment. I called them to see what was up and after arguing for a while they said, "oops, our mistake." It took them over two hours to bring it back to me. The icing on the cake, when I finally got my vehicle back, it had been damaged!!!! The driver that delivered it back told me to contact their manager. The manager wanted to argue with me, claiming that they didn't damage my vehicle. So now, my vehicle is damaged, my alignment is jacked up AND I missed a day if work because of these predatory towers. This company needs to be reported to the better business bureau. I wish I had the resources to sue these crooks. [0] http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/unlimited-recovery-raleigh http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/unlimited-recovery-raleigh
- eli_awry 13y ago
  I think that's a different company - it's not even in Texas.
  - girvo 13y ago
    Oops, that'll teach me, I do t live in the US and it didn't event register. Damn.
mathattack 13y ago
I was thinking the same thing. Why would she want to advertise this? It almost guarantees that they won't be able to help her in the future.

Its strange how casually they mention her friends who are in law enforcement who do illegal searches for her.

by latj 13y ago

Its strange how casually they mention her friends who are in law enforcement who do illegal searches for her.

pwnna 13y ago

Yup. That was weird. Or not. I suppose.

enjo 13y ago

It's unclear to me if those searches are illegal or not.

baddox 13y ago
I doubt the searches themselves are illegal. Presumably those officers have legal access to those databases. It might be illegal to disclose the information to a civilian, and at the very least I hope it is against department rules.
- qdog 13y ago
  Also not clear what kind of searches those are. It sounds like it could have been public records of ongoing court cases. I suppose the question to ask is who reviews these types of talks (no doubt many agents talk to PIs etc.) to make sure nothing illegal is happening.

yarou 13y ago

Not at all strange, people have gotten used to being surveilled is all. Maybe she can help find the missing node.js guy as mentioned here: http://blog.izs.me/post/72990767417/a-member-of-our-community-is-missing-help-find-him http://blog.izs.me/post/72990767417/a-member-of-our-communit...

atmosx 13y ago
We could raise some money... I don't know the guy, but still the idea is intriguing... Are we sure the guy actually WANTS to be found?
- yarou 13y ago
  That's an interesting point, some people just want to disappear. I read a long time ago when I was younger, on a local BBS, a guide to fully disappearing. Some people just don't want to be found; this can be true freedom depending on who you ask.
  - latj 13y ago
    If so he convinced me with his final broadcasts. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536683/Yahoo-hires-private-investigator-missing-programmer-Luke-Arduini.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536683/Yahoo-hires-...
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  - gscott 13y ago
    Since he was on Top 10 lists for defrauding the Government I imagine he doesn't expect much privacy for his data.

tokenadult 13y ago

I had to go back to the article to find the exact passage you were referring to. "Puzzled, Gomez resorted to a resource she taps only rarely: the help of friends at federal agencies, friends for whom she has done favors and who in return are willing to let her check her information against government databases. 'Their databases turn up what we call ‘trace details’ that you can’t get with the databases available to ordinary citizens,' Gomez says: phone numbers, addresses, company and individual names that have in some way been associated." Depending on the status of the underlying civil recovery action that prompted someone to hire the bounty hunter, there may have been legal grounds for her to have that "access," especially if what she was doing was saying, "Here are some dots that I think connect in this way, can you tell me, yes or no, if this makes any sense?" But, yes, depending on the exact rules involved of what agency, and what the bounty hunter is pursuing in what case, and what was asked and answered, this could be illegal. Or not. It's not entirely sure if anything illegal was done in what was reported in that paragraph. The term "illegal search" has a much more specific meaning in legal language.

michaelwww 13y ago

The guy had a case against him. I thought it was common for law enforcement and bounty hunters to cooperate. It wouldn't be wise to assume otherwise.

JRobertson 13y ago

I worked for a company that required CJIS(Criminal Justice Information Systems) certification to work on their products. The software dealt with law enforcement so we occasionally had access to live criminal records. Every year we had to re-certify and one of the major points they emphasized and re-emphasized was that it was a felony to search for anything for a friend or even out of curiosity. You only had a legal right to access and view information if you had a specific reason dealing with a current case. So, if they let her access any of those databases it was most definitely a felony. But as others have said it could have been public record databases and not something protected under CJIS.

Systemic33 13y ago

There is a longer discussion on the site's comment section about the legality, and the short version is that she has legal access to the databases since she is a licensed private investigator, which apparently is very easy to get in Texas.

atmosx 13y ago

If you do this kind of job, that is to be expected...

girvo 13y ago

According to Yelp[0], that's not the only illegal part... This company is run by a bunch of crooks. They towed my legally parked vehicle for no reason from the front of my apartment. I called them to see what was up and after arguing for a while they said, "oops, our mistake." It took them over two hours to bring it back to me. The icing on the cake, when I finally got my vehicle back, it had been damaged!!!! The driver that delivered it back told me to contact their manager. The manager wanted to argue with me, claiming that they didn't damage my vehicle. So now, my vehicle is damaged, my alignment is jacked up AND I missed a day if work because of these predatory towers. This company needs to be reported to the better business bureau. I wish I had the resources to sue these crooks. [0] http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/unlimited-recovery-raleigh http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/unlimited-recovery-raleigh

eli_awry 13y ago
I think that's a different company - it's not even in Texas.
- girvo 13y ago
  Oops, that'll teach me, I do t live in the US and it didn't event register. Damn.

mathattack 13y ago

I was thinking the same thing. Why would she want to advertise this? It almost guarantees that they won't be able to help her in the future.