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From my second link: In the absence of definitive evidence, recommendations must rely on professional judgment. No data suggest that sugar intake per se is adv

From my second link: In the absence of definitive evidence, recommendations must rely on professional judgment. No data suggest that sugar intake per se is advantageous, and some data suggest it may be detrimental. The studies above, taken in total, indicate that high sugar intake should be avoided. Sugar has no nutritional value other than to provide calories. To improve the overall nutrient density of the diet and to help reduce the intake of excess calories, individuals should be sure foods high in added sugar are not displacing foods with essential nutrients or increasing calorie intake. Can you point me to something substantial that suggests I should not consider the above accurate? I appreciate that evidence in support of the Lustig claims may not be complete, but evidence against them seems non existent. Why should I ignore what seems obvious?

dekhn 13y ago
Sure. Let's remember that Lustig's goal is to actually ban substances which he says are causing MASSIVE HARM to people. First, the conclusion that it's detriment is admitted by the authors as being uncertain "some data suggest it may". Second, most people in the area would say that in the absence of data showing harm, one should not conclude something is harmful, and then take action. Third, let's turn their argument around. They state: "in the absence of evidence, use professional judgment. If something has no use, it should be avoided." OK. If that's their professional judgement, then to be fair it should apply to everything in their demesne, right? AKA, if there is somethign which is not absolutely necessary, and might be detrimental, these authors would say to avoid it entirely. However, sugar makes food more palatable. So there are patients who don't want to eat food (cancer patients on chemo) but if the food is more palatable they eat it. Even sometimes getting kids to eat food is hard- shall I not add salt, or sugar if it gets them to eat a meal? Taken to its logical conclusion, their suggestion would shut down nearly all free choices that we make which have marginal risk concerns.
- nitrogen 13y ago
  AKA, if there is somethign which is not absolutely necessary, and might be detrimental, these authors would say to avoid it entirely. That seems to be a bit of a strawman based on an exaggeration of the quoted passage in the parent comment.
  - dekhn 13y ago
    I don't agree at all. That's what the authors say, quite directly!

dekhn 13y ago

Sure. Let's remember that Lustig's goal is to actually ban substances which he says are causing MASSIVE HARM to people. First, the conclusion that it's detriment is admitted by the authors as being uncertain "some data suggest it may". Second, most people in the area would say that in the absence of data showing harm, one should not conclude something is harmful, and then take action. Third, let's turn their argument around. They state: "in the absence of evidence, use professional judgment. If something has no use, it should be avoided." OK. If that's their professional judgement, then to be fair it should apply to everything in their demesne, right? AKA, if there is somethign which is not absolutely necessary, and might be detrimental, these authors would say to avoid it entirely. However, sugar makes food more palatable. So there are patients who don't want to eat food (cancer patients on chemo) but if the food is more palatable they eat it. Even sometimes getting kids to eat food is hard- shall I not add salt, or sugar if it gets them to eat a meal? Taken to its logical conclusion, their suggestion would shut down nearly all free choices that we make which have marginal risk concerns.

nitrogen 13y ago
AKA, if there is somethign which is not absolutely necessary, and might be detrimental, these authors would say to avoid it entirely. That seems to be a bit of a strawman based on an exaggeration of the quoted passage in the parent comment.
- dekhn 13y ago
  I don't agree at all. That's what the authors say, quite directly!