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Are teenagers just selecting the tool that is right for them? Facebook has this horrible habit of trying to work out what you would most like to see in your fe

by awjr 13y ago

Are teenagers just selecting the tool that is right for them? Facebook has this horrible habit of trying to work out what you would most like to see in your feed. It's exceptionally transient. Teenagers are moving to Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat and WhatsApp because they do a better specific job. Switching between apps isn't hard. However FB is very good for event organisation or even a cheap meetup.com alternative. Of note I find twitter etc less invasive. When you look at the FB app permissions it really really wants to know pretty much everything that is going on in your phone.

brazzy 13y ago
> Facebook has this horrible habit of trying to work out what you would most like to see in your feed. It's exceptionally transient. That's a feature introduced not long ago to reduce transience - feeds were dominated by chatty users and apps, everything else got drowned out. IMO it's a hugely important and useful feature that any other feed-based service must replicate unless chooses to be completely transient, i.e. twitter. Facebook is not transient at all - individual timelines still contain everything, and even the feed does not, in my experience, change retroactively.
- awjr 13y ago
  I may be unaware of an advanced search facility on FB, but twitter really shines https://twitter.com/search-advanced https://twitter.com/search-advanced I find Twitter to be better at connecting to people you admire and are involved in your industry. I can see a similar situation for teenagers. I help organise a regular monthly event. I PR through twitter but host an event through a Facebook group. Articles/photos/stories are discussed in detail through the FB group, but they are sourced through twitter. Twitter gives you the ability to 'focus' an account (I have two, my personal and the event one) towards the type of people/organisations that are of interested for the specified account. In fact it's a very very good way of filtering out noise. You only bring articles to the FB group that would get the people talking. FB is way too vague and generally is just part of me wasting 5 minutes to be entertained. Twitter I use to try and get a better understanding of the world I live in and to learn from people I admire.
  - brazzy 13y ago
    Funny and strange. I have never been able to find any use or value whatsoever in Twitter. My account has been sitting unused for years, whereas I use Facebook near every day.
  - riffraff 13y ago
    facebook has the fancy semantic search that works with stuff like "find friends of friends who like chopin". It's somewhat orthogonal to a "good" text search for status messages.
- DanBC 13y ago
  I would love it if Facebook would just remember my preferred setting of "view everything, by everyone, and display it in chronological order". And then allow me to mute chatty users. Because at the moment I have one chatty user posting the equivalent of "funny email forwards" which all get shown to me, and items from my family are muted. That's on the desktop browser website, not any app. (Goodness only knows how the app works). While I'm here: I post photos. Photos either go to "everyone can see these" or to a single list "semi-private". I only ever use those two, never ever anything else. Facebook generated list names populate the drop-down selector, meaning that choosing "semi private" from the list is clunky and irritating. Haha, wow, this post sound really grumpy but it isn't meant to be.
  - raverbashing 13y ago
    "Because at the moment I have one chatty user posting the equivalent of "funny email forwards" which all get shown to me, and items from my family are muted." Exact-fsking-this Thanks, I don't need to 'like this if I love Jesus' or know about how Obamacare is described in the Bible as Antichrist stuff Most of these were muted long ago in my feed
    - charlesgarson 13y ago
      But if you don't want to hear these people's opinions, why are you friends with them?
      - raverbashing 13y ago
        Events Chat Photos When they post something good (eventually) And basically to keep in touch
        charlesgarson 13y ago
        No, I mean why do you socialise with them at all? Why do you want to go to an event with, chat to, share photos with or keep in touch with someone whose views you aren't interested in? Saying FB is stupid because it shows you this crap is like choosing to go round their house and saying real life is stupid because you have to listen to their crap.
untog 13y ago
Twitter doesn't really do any kind of job when it comes to showing you the right content. Just a dump-feed of everything. Even though I use Twitter every day, I doubt that case is useful for everyone.

by awjr 13y ago

brazzy 13y ago

> Facebook has this horrible habit of trying to work out what you would most like to see in your feed. It's exceptionally transient. That's a feature introduced not long ago to reduce transience - feeds were dominated by chatty users and apps, everything else got drowned out. IMO it's a hugely important and useful feature that any other feed-based service must replicate unless chooses to be completely transient, i.e. twitter. Facebook is not transient at all - individual timelines still contain everything, and even the feed does not, in my experience, change retroactively.

awjr 13y ago
I may be unaware of an advanced search facility on FB, but twitter really shines https://twitter.com/search-advanced https://twitter.com/search-advanced I find Twitter to be better at connecting to people you admire and are involved in your industry. I can see a similar situation for teenagers. I help organise a regular monthly event. I PR through twitter but host an event through a Facebook group. Articles/photos/stories are discussed in detail through the FB group, but they are sourced through twitter. Twitter gives you the ability to 'focus' an account (I have two, my personal and the event one) towards the type of people/organisations that are of interested for the specified account. In fact it's a very very good way of filtering out noise. You only bring articles to the FB group that would get the people talking. FB is way too vague and generally is just part of me wasting 5 minutes to be entertained. Twitter I use to try and get a better understanding of the world I live in and to learn from people I admire.
- brazzy 13y ago
  Funny and strange. I have never been able to find any use or value whatsoever in Twitter. My account has been sitting unused for years, whereas I use Facebook near every day.
- riffraff 13y ago
  facebook has the fancy semantic search that works with stuff like "find friends of friends who like chopin". It's somewhat orthogonal to a "good" text search for status messages.
DanBC 13y ago
I would love it if Facebook would just remember my preferred setting of "view everything, by everyone, and display it in chronological order". And then allow me to mute chatty users. Because at the moment I have one chatty user posting the equivalent of "funny email forwards" which all get shown to me, and items from my family are muted. That's on the desktop browser website, not any app. (Goodness only knows how the app works). While I'm here: I post photos. Photos either go to "everyone can see these" or to a single list "semi-private". I only ever use those two, never ever anything else. Facebook generated list names populate the drop-down selector, meaning that choosing "semi private" from the list is clunky and irritating. Haha, wow, this post sound really grumpy but it isn't meant to be.
- raverbashing 13y ago
  "Because at the moment I have one chatty user posting the equivalent of "funny email forwards" which all get shown to me, and items from my family are muted." Exact-fsking-this Thanks, I don't need to 'like this if I love Jesus' or know about how Obamacare is described in the Bible as Antichrist stuff Most of these were muted long ago in my feed
  - charlesgarson 13y ago
    But if you don't want to hear these people's opinions, why are you friends with them?
    - raverbashing 13y ago
      Events Chat Photos When they post something good (eventually) And basically to keep in touch
      - charlesgarson 13y ago
        No, I mean why do you socialise with them at all? Why do you want to go to an event with, chat to, share photos with or keep in touch with someone whose views you aren't interested in? Saying FB is stupid because it shows you this crap is like choosing to go round their house and saying real life is stupid because you have to listen to their crap.

untog 13y ago

Twitter doesn't really do any kind of job when it comes to showing you the right content. Just a dump-feed of everything. Even though I use Twitter every day, I doubt that case is useful for everyone.