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It's as if you are auditioning for the Glenn Beck show. That's probably where you belong edit: Since when is political vitriol acceptable for HN? If I wanted t

It's as if you are auditioning for the Glenn Beck show. That's probably where you belong edit: Since when is political vitriol acceptable for HN? If I wanted to hear bullshit political rants with gems like "traditional blacks" or "fuck you and your dreadlocks", then I'd turn on Fox News or MSNBC. Seriously, traditional blacks with weasely scare quotes? That comment could not be less informative, disingenuous, or falsely provocative. It's like reading something by a slightly racist college freshman.

nknighthb 13y ago
Do you understand that you are attacking some of your most powerful political allies, and that it is not helpful to solving the systemic issues contributing to poverty?
- manicbovine 13y ago
  What in the hell are you talking about? Who have I attacked? None of the people in this thread are my "most important political allies". Did you people read "political debate and logical fallacies for dummies"? How does "fuck you and your dreadlocks" do anything to help people? Should I use that next time I'm volunteering at the soup kitchen? Really, there must be no hope for American politics, because this is probably the most idiotic exchange I'll have today. I presume you have made some assumptions about me, like perhaps I helped to attack this bus? That's funny stuff. Reddit is leaking.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    > I presume you have made some assumptions about me As you have made assumptions. Many of us are quite left-wing. I would be at home in a European socialist party. However, the escalation to violence against people like me leaves me disinclined to do anything to help you. Giving you more resources would seem to be aiding dangerous criminals.
    - manicbovine 13y ago
      What assumption did I make about your politics? You wear your politics loudly enough so as to preclude any need for assumption. Why have you characterized me as a dangerous criminal? I just very simply do not suffer fools or borderline racists. I'm glad that you'd fit in with the European socialists, but your thinking is just so remarkably confused that it's comical. Actually, this strongly qualifies you to be a European socialist, replete with broken populist social initiatives and all, so good on you.
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        If you think the post you replied to had any racist content in it, you either didn't even try to read it, or are functionally illiterate. The comment was replying appropriately to the linked article's racially-charged rhetoric.
        manicbovine 13y ago
        I hope that you include a link to your hacker news profile on your resume in order to help employers like me to avoid hiring you.
        nknighthb 13y ago
        Please tell me your company's name, so I can avoid ever patronizing it, and be ready to dial 911 should any of your employees ever approach me. Edit: Nevermind, I found you. I wouldn't be caught dead in Arizona, and I'm not an educator, so we're both quite safe.
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        manicbovine 13y ago
        Try both Tokyo and San Diego, plus consumer electronics. With well over 8000 employees, you will be calling 911 quite a lot. Perhaps notify the police of your complete insanity.
- ddebernardy 13y ago
  Interestingly, top-earners have been saying the same for decades when confronted with tax increases, all while having enjoyed an ever increasing share of the wealth pie. Food for thought.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    This "top earner" wants more tax increases. I'm not alone. What I do not want is to be subject to violent attacks for getting up and going to work in the morning, nor to be compared to Glenn Beck for having no sympathy for the violent criminals doing so.
    - ddebernardy 13y ago
      And I feel the same. But here's more food for thought: when you've nothing to lose, you basically lose it. And that, sadly, is where a lot of Americans have been heading since late 2007.
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        Grew up on inadequate food stamps. The people with nothing to lose are busy trying to find something to lose. These thugs are not those people.
    - gress 13y ago
      Perhaps you should do something about income inequality then.
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        Like smash bus windows? There are other ways to solve problems. I help with some of them. Do you assume I don't, or do you just think violence is always the answer?
        gress 13y ago
        What are your suggestions?
jack-r-abbit 13y ago
I believe the OP only put quotes around "traditional" because, in the very quote he lifted from the article, West Oakland is referred to as a traditionally black neighborhood. It is typical behavior to use quotes around words that relate directly back to the original source.
- manicbovine 13y ago
  Ok, I apparently have a lot of time on my hands right now. No, it's completely non-standard to place quotes around just one word from an original source. Also, context is everything.
  - Crito 13y ago
    > No, it's completely non-standard to place quotes around just one word from an original source. It is non-standard in your particular dialect of English. It is common and accepted in others. See the discussion on the use of quotes in this HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446077
    - plywoodtrees 13y ago
      One might even say it's "traditional".

nknighthb 13y ago

Do you understand that you are attacking some of your most powerful political allies, and that it is not helpful to solving the systemic issues contributing to poverty?

manicbovine 13y ago
What in the hell are you talking about? Who have I attacked? None of the people in this thread are my "most important political allies". Did you people read "political debate and logical fallacies for dummies"? How does "fuck you and your dreadlocks" do anything to help people? Should I use that next time I'm volunteering at the soup kitchen? Really, there must be no hope for American politics, because this is probably the most idiotic exchange I'll have today. I presume you have made some assumptions about me, like perhaps I helped to attack this bus? That's funny stuff. Reddit is leaking.
- nknighthb 13y ago
  > I presume you have made some assumptions about me As you have made assumptions. Many of us are quite left-wing. I would be at home in a European socialist party. However, the escalation to violence against people like me leaves me disinclined to do anything to help you. Giving you more resources would seem to be aiding dangerous criminals.
  - manicbovine 13y ago
    What assumption did I make about your politics? You wear your politics loudly enough so as to preclude any need for assumption. Why have you characterized me as a dangerous criminal? I just very simply do not suffer fools or borderline racists. I'm glad that you'd fit in with the European socialists, but your thinking is just so remarkably confused that it's comical. Actually, this strongly qualifies you to be a European socialist, replete with broken populist social initiatives and all, so good on you.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      If you think the post you replied to had any racist content in it, you either didn't even try to read it, or are functionally illiterate. The comment was replying appropriately to the linked article's racially-charged rhetoric.
      - manicbovine 13y ago
        I hope that you include a link to your hacker news profile on your resume in order to help employers like me to avoid hiring you.
        nknighthb 13y ago
        Please tell me your company's name, so I can avoid ever patronizing it, and be ready to dial 911 should any of your employees ever approach me. Edit: Nevermind, I found you. I wouldn't be caught dead in Arizona, and I'm not an educator, so we're both quite safe.
        deleted 13y ago
        [deleted]
        manicbovine 13y ago
        Try both Tokyo and San Diego, plus consumer electronics. With well over 8000 employees, you will be calling 911 quite a lot. Perhaps notify the police of your complete insanity.
ddebernardy 13y ago
Interestingly, top-earners have been saying the same for decades when confronted with tax increases, all while having enjoyed an ever increasing share of the wealth pie. Food for thought.
- nknighthb 13y ago
  This "top earner" wants more tax increases. I'm not alone. What I do not want is to be subject to violent attacks for getting up and going to work in the morning, nor to be compared to Glenn Beck for having no sympathy for the violent criminals doing so.
  - ddebernardy 13y ago
    And I feel the same. But here's more food for thought: when you've nothing to lose, you basically lose it. And that, sadly, is where a lot of Americans have been heading since late 2007.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      Grew up on inadequate food stamps. The people with nothing to lose are busy trying to find something to lose. These thugs are not those people.
  - gress 13y ago
    Perhaps you should do something about income inequality then.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      Like smash bus windows? There are other ways to solve problems. I help with some of them. Do you assume I don't, or do you just think violence is always the answer?
      - gress 13y ago
        What are your suggestions?

jack-r-abbit 13y ago

I believe the OP only put quotes around "traditional" because, in the very quote he lifted from the article, West Oakland is referred to as a traditionally black neighborhood. It is typical behavior to use quotes around words that relate directly back to the original source.

manicbovine 13y ago
Ok, I apparently have a lot of time on my hands right now. No, it's completely non-standard to place quotes around just one word from an original source. Also, context is everything.
- Crito 13y ago
  > No, it's completely non-standard to place quotes around just one word from an original source. It is non-standard in your particular dialect of English. It is common and accepted in others. See the discussion on the use of quotes in this HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446077
  - plywoodtrees 13y ago
    One might even say it's "traditional".