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I had the dubious honor of starting undergrad, and being introduced to the Internet, during the actual Eternal September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_S
by StevePerkins 13y ago
I had the dubious honor of starting undergrad, and being introduced to the Internet, during the actual Eternal September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September).
As much as I've always been irked by some items in this document (e.g. all-caps, chain letters, etc)... I definitely do not miss the days when half of all discussion in any given forum was meta-babble about how to properly post in the forum. I swear, back in the mid-90's it felt like every single Usenet thread devolved into a shouting match between "bottom posters" and "top posters"! Plonk!
This may be blasphemy, but even at that time I always believed that the tools would have to evolve to fit human nature rather than the other way around. Why not just improve your Usenet readers (even the shell-based ones) to minimize quoted text regardless of where it's found? You know, like every single email client does today without us thinking anything of it?
Such basic usability features were slow to appear... not because it's all that technically challenging, but rather due to cultural resistance and purity dogma. Nonsense. If any system of human interaction requires a high degree of deliberate and manual cooperation, then it's not tenable and can be improved by technology.
- e12e 13y ago> Why not just improve your Usenet readers (even the shell-based ones) to minimize quoted text regardless of where it's found? You know, like every single email client does today without us thinking anything of it? Do they now? As far as I've managed to figure out, gmail has a broken conversation view that only works half the time, and then there's sup -- any other email clients that do a good enough job of threading quoted conversations? I agree in principle -- fix the software -- but that implies fixing the protocol first -- and we haven't done that yet. XMPP does a little something to help (for conversations) -- but isn't a suitable solution for email-like functionality. I'd love to be wrong -- but I've yet to use any email client that has decent "smart" threading of conversations (I don't use sup -- as of yet anyway).
- scelerat 13y ago> Plonk! Ahh, the sweet, sweet sound of a Usenet troll landing in your killfile.