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Only three reported deaths last time I checked. One in 1979, one in 1984 and another in 2009. Pretty sure more deaths occur from other equipment than that, eve

Only three reported deaths last time I checked. One in 1979, one in 1984 and another in 2009. Pretty sure more deaths occur from other equipment than that, every year even.

Qworg 13y ago
This is untrue, but it is hard to get international numbers. In the US alone, it is about one death a year, purely by OSHA standards. This doesn't include things like "struck by robot, died three days later due to brain haemorrhage". OSHA: https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/AccidentSearch.search?acc_keyword=%22Robot%22&keyword_list=on https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/AccidentSearch.search?acc_keyw... Economist: 77 accidents with industrial robots in 2005 alone - http://www.economist.com/node/7001829 http://www.economist.com/node/7001829 Research paper: 103 self reported and survey responded by 1995 - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hfm.4530050304/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hfm.4530050304/ab...
- will_work4tears 13y ago
  Interesting, thanks. I went back and found the article I had read about this awhile back and I guess it was specific data about robot arms and probably wasn't entirely comprehensive: http://hcri.brown.edu/2013/08/29/could-your-robot-hurt-you-perhaps-but-not-intentionally/ http://hcri.brown.edu/2013/08/29/could-your-robot-hurt-you-p... Edit: one of those are a stretch calling it a "robot" A conveyor belt is a robot? Also, 33 results for robot, but 108 for Forklift and 11 for microwave, is it really all the much more dangerous than any other equipment? Should we ban microwaves (deliberate hyperbole, I realize those weren't deaths)?
- dekhn 13y ago
  I can't read the economist article "reached your reading limit" :( 77 accidents- I assume that's injuries, not deaths, right? I would consider the OSHA count as incomplete for the reason you say- but I doubt there is more accurate data. Right now I'd say the numbers look reasonable to not justify preventing the entertainment industry from using robot automation in movie making alongside actors (I think that's what was being suggested?).
  - Qworg 13y ago
    Injuries. Death numbers are far harder to find. The more pressing concern with putting actors in the mix is that they are necessarily untrained or poorly trained participants. Most of these accidents happen with trained personnel. I'm not saying that Bot and Dolly shouldn't do what they're doing. I'm just interested in what their safety procedure is to prevent accidents. "Don't get hit" is not a procedure.

Only three reported deaths last time I checked. One in 1979, one in 1984 and another in 2009. Pretty sure more deaths occur from other equipment than that, every year even.

Qworg 13y ago

This is untrue, but it is hard to get international numbers. In the US alone, it is about one death a year, purely by OSHA standards. This doesn't include things like "struck by robot, died three days later due to brain haemorrhage". OSHA: https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/AccidentSearch.search?acc_keyword=%22Robot%22&keyword_list=on https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/AccidentSearch.search?acc_keyw... Economist: 77 accidents with industrial robots in 2005 alone - http://www.economist.com/node/7001829 http://www.economist.com/node/7001829 Research paper: 103 self reported and survey responded by 1995 - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hfm.4530050304/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hfm.4530050304/ab...

will_work4tears 13y ago
Interesting, thanks. I went back and found the article I had read about this awhile back and I guess it was specific data about robot arms and probably wasn't entirely comprehensive: http://hcri.brown.edu/2013/08/29/could-your-robot-hurt-you-perhaps-but-not-intentionally/ http://hcri.brown.edu/2013/08/29/could-your-robot-hurt-you-p... Edit: one of those are a stretch calling it a "robot" A conveyor belt is a robot? Also, 33 results for robot, but 108 for Forklift and 11 for microwave, is it really all the much more dangerous than any other equipment? Should we ban microwaves (deliberate hyperbole, I realize those weren't deaths)?
dekhn 13y ago
I can't read the economist article "reached your reading limit" :( 77 accidents- I assume that's injuries, not deaths, right? I would consider the OSHA count as incomplete for the reason you say- but I doubt there is more accurate data. Right now I'd say the numbers look reasonable to not justify preventing the entertainment industry from using robot automation in movie making alongside actors (I think that's what was being suggested?).
- Qworg 13y ago
  Injuries. Death numbers are far harder to find. The more pressing concern with putting actors in the mix is that they are necessarily untrained or poorly trained participants. Most of these accidents happen with trained personnel. I'm not saying that Bot and Dolly shouldn't do what they're doing. I'm just interested in what their safety procedure is to prevent accidents. "Don't get hit" is not a procedure.