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IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

256 points by rdemmer 13y ago

dabeeeenster 13y ago
I never thought I'd say it but it seems that they are getting close to the end of the line feature wise! Not a lot here that is making want to upgrade from 12...
- pestaa 13y ago
  At the office our jaws regularly drop at JetBrains' attention to detail, too. PHP development would be nightmare without their tools. If you're ever reading this, thank you guys very much.
  - rdemmer 13y ago
    The team is definitely reading this and thank you for your kind works.
    - sergiotapia 13y ago
      RubyMine allowed me to learn Rails well and make a living for me and my family. Definitely the best $70 I've invested in my career. It literally changed my life by allowing me to make much more money as a Rails developer. Send my thanks to the RubyMine team! :)
      - rdemmer 13y ago
        I have passed your comment and this link along :-)
      - rdemmer 13y ago
        The team wants to know if they can use this on our website :-) Drop me a line at robert(dot)demmer[at]jetbrains(dot)com if you're willing.
    - castles 13y ago
      I vaguely recall a cross platform, clang integrating, c/c++ IDE was in the works? Any news? IntelliJ is awesome :)
      - rdemmer 13y ago
        Glad to hear you're digging IntelliJ. C/C++ IDE, try subscribe to preview: http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html
  - taude 13y ago
    PyCharm was my gateway drug into JetBrains. Actually, it was the ReSharper plug-in for Visual Studio. Now days, I won't consider running software that doesn't run on multiple platforms. So glad that JetBrains is delivering great IDEs for those bigger development efforts.
  - LordIllidan 13y ago
    I vaguely remember programming small to large PHP sites with just sublime text... never again. My impulsive purchase on the 21st December 2012 was the best thing I did that year.
- jhawk28 13y ago
  The updated Gradle support and Presentation mode are my reasons for upgrading. This may be the last release for me as I am starting to use Go more instead of Java.
- mortyseinfeld 13y ago
  Not even close. Intellij is more of a platform than just a Java IDE these days. They're busy at work on Kotlin, and still have all the other languages and frameworks to work on. Great job Jetbrains. Although I'm primarily a .NET ) developer (have resharper of course, I make sure to have the latest IDEA because it's such a great IDE
  - rdemmer 13y ago
    Yep. IntelliJ is an IDE and Platform. In regards to ReSharper... stay tuned for an awesome upcoming webinar in February, ReSharper Secrets w/Igal Tabachnik. We will announce here in January: blogs.jetbrains.com/dotnet/
- KevinEldon 13y ago
  Auto-completion of Maven GAV and full screen mode are two of the many small features they've added in this release that I've enjoyed. I've been using the EAP for a few months and can't really say what's different between 12 and 13 anymore, I've forgotten about 12, but I know I've been pleasantly surprised consistently enough to happily pay $99 for an upgrade.
- kaffeinecoma 13y ago
  I pay for every upgrade simply for the support. A few times a year I get stuck on something; mere minutes after filing a support ticket, I have a resolution. They've got this guy "Serge" who must be locked in a room somewhere doing support because he always solves my issues within minutes. Amazing.
  - rdemmer 13y ago
    #keepsergecaptive
  - octix 13y ago
    Are you kidding, you need support for an IDE?
    - kaffeinecoma 13y ago
      Look, Intellij is the Emacs of IDEs. If you've not used it you have no idea of its depth. I've written plugins [1] for it, so I'm not an idiot. I regularly use it for Java, Scala, Clojure and Ruby, so yeah, sometimes it's worth paying someone to sort out issues for you. [1] https://github.com/armhold/wicket-source-intellij https://github.com/armhold/wicket-source-intellij
    - hrabago 13y ago
      Every software can have bugs.
- danieldk 13y ago
  It seems that they have invested a lot in Android support this release. Still, there are some really nice other changes that increase productivity, such as lens mode, lambda/closure support for 'smart step into', and JAX-RS 2.0 support. It's the refinement in every release that makes IntelliJ so great. That, plus their support of Kotlin, made upgrading to 13 (Ultimate) a no-brainer for me :).
- jasonwocky 13y ago
  IDEA is the one piece of software I buy that advertises "Faster performance!" with each new release...and actually delivers on it for me.
- andrewcooke 13y ago
  it's the only software i pay for; i buy each version as insurance they don't go away.
mgkimsal 13y ago
Offtopic, of course, but I'll post here anyway... I've been meaning to post a bug report about this - I can't get conditional breakpoints to work with Grails debugging. Regular breakpoints, fine, but conditionals... I get an error that "'this' is not available" when it hits the breakpoint. Searched around - can't find any other reports of this, but it's been a problem since at least IntelliJ 12, and in the 13 beta that I tried - I don't have 11 around any more, but I could swear it used to work. EDIT: added bug report: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117458 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117458 although it looks like it was reported and marked as 'fixed' in http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-100647 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-100647. Still doesn't seem to work though.
- rdemmer 13y ago
  I'll make sure the team is aware of your comment here.
  - mgkimsal 13y ago
    thanks.
sz4kerto 13y ago
The mind-reader IDE, as we used to call it. It's sometimes scary when you create a new variable in a class and it gives you the perfect suggestion (based on what you did elsewhere in the code).
- rdemmer 13y ago
  I like this, "the mind-reader IDE"
  - atonse 13y ago
    Yeah I don't think I could do .NET development anymore without ReSharper. Makes me wonder how much time I wasted by using Eclipse in my Java days instead of just forking over the cash for IDEA.
    - dgesang 13y ago
      Is ReSharper still as slow as it used to be 5 years ago (VS2008)? Eclipse does a lot of "mind-reading", too.
      - nizmow 13y ago
        I have to disagree with both of these guys, it was so slow in Visual Studio 2013 that I actually disabled it. Then I was forced to re-enable it when I couldn't live without the functionality.
        atonse 13y ago
        I'm actually noticing a bit of a regression in Visual Studio 2013/RS 8. My Alt+Enter quick fix menu takes longer to just show up with any suggestions.
      - anilmujagic 13y ago
        It is lightning fast on my machine on both VS 2010 and 2012.
suyash 13y ago
How much is it? If I had the version 12, that I bought recently, do I need to pay for the new version to upgrade?
- jhawk28 13y ago
  Go to the Upgrade link: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp It will ask you for your license key when you click the upgrade now and send you the info over email.
- glogla 13y ago
  It seems to be 180 EUR for new developers.
  - lexalizer 13y ago
    It's a great IDE and totally worth the money.
  - danieldk 13y ago
    Excluding VAT. But, it's well worth the money if you are doing JVM development daily. Besides that, the community edition is a good place to start if you do not need J2EE, servlet container support, etc.
- lexalizer 13y ago
  From what I understand, starting with V13 personal licenses will include 1 year free upgrades. I thought V12 licenses younger than 1 year will work with V13, but that's not the case. I like the IDE, but I will stick with v12 for now.
  - TylerE 13y ago
    1 year of updates not upgrades. Otherwise you'd only "need" to buy an upgrade every other year.
    - lexalizer 13y ago
wiradikusuma 13y ago
Slightly off topic, the Pinterest-style layout (not horizontally-aligned) is annoying. It's difficult to read. Other than that, congrats! IntelliJ is the only IDE that keeps surprising me in positive ways (like, "OMG, it can do that?") EDIT: Arrgh, seriously it's difficult to read. Is there a list with conventional layout?
arota 13y ago
I'm still looking forward to the 'Sublime Text'-like column mode selection feature[1], currently the top voted feature request, which will be an excellent addition to IntelliJ. Unfortunately it looks like we'll have to wait until version 14 for this. [1] - http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-80056 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-80056
- deleted 13y ago
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- netcraft 13y ago
  with jetbrains folks in here it would be nice to get a comment from them on this. Even just something that says its not coming would be better than no response at all. I love intellij, but sublime multi cursors would be a huge performance improvement. Right now I keep idea, sublime and notepad++ open most of the day.
  - justafucker 13y ago
    please find my comment above
- Systemic33 13y ago
  It's present in PyCharm, and it's pretty cool and usefull :P
- justafucker 13y ago
  we know about this request and understand it's importance. however it can't be done quickly as there are some things to change in the core of the editor. i hope to see it in 14 or even early nobody can tell in advance. will keep posted. i'm sure it will be implemented
harshadura 13y ago
Really love this IDE.. superb
weaksauce 13y ago
Awesome! The only thing that I am really wanting is multi key timeouts in the ideavim plugin. So you can have jj remap to Esc in insert mode.
- merqumab 13y ago
  If you haven't already, it might be a good idea to vote for that feature: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-448 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-448 and http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-518 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-518
- mortyseinfeld 13y ago
  Have you ever remapped Esc to Cap Lock?
mekishizufu 13y ago
I wish they offered to download the release via torrent, the download speed from their servers is terrible (currently getting only +- 150 KB/s).
kevbry 13y ago
Still no support for projects on UNC paths, so not terribly useful for those forced to use folder remapping in Windows. I'd love to switch our students away from Eclipse, but without UNC support it can't happen.
- brianwawok 13y ago
  You can't code on a folder on the desktop, and copy it off to network drive when done? Or better yet, push up to a git repo?
- r4vik 13y ago
  can't you map UNC paths to virtual local mount points? like \\server\blah\foo to C:\projects\foo
josso 13y ago
Great update, but still no support for Java 7 only in OS X. :(
- danieldk 13y ago
  I take that you mean running IntelliJ under Java 7? JDK 7 and 8 work fine for development!
  - josso 13y ago
    Exactly. I should've mentioned that. You can't run IDEA with only Oracle JRE 7. You need to install Apple's JRE 6 too.
    - Glide 13y ago
      I think it has to do with retina display support in the Oracle JRE 7. I remember searching for retina display stuff in JDKs and saw a post from the people from JetBrains post differences between the JDK 6 from Apple and JDK 7 from Oracle. It was also a very informative post as well.
    - nicity 13y ago
      there is IntelliJ IDEA distribution with bundled JDK 7 (replace ideaIU-13.dmg with ideaIU-13-jdk-bundled.dmg in download link) but it isn't recommended because of JDK related issues
- praseodym 13y ago
  They did have RC builds that did, but those had some nasty bugs w.r.t. font rendering: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117324 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117324 (Not really sure if it's Oracle's or JetBrains' fault)
  - cjkent 13y ago
    There were lots of problems running IntelliJ 13 under JDK7 on the Mac, many of them related to focus. Popups appearing behind the main window, keystrokes going to the editor when a modal dialog is visible, that kind of thing. Also none of the key bindings that include the alt key worked. It definitely wasn't ready. Works brilliantly with JDK6 though, I can't recommend it enough.
drKarl 13y ago
I got my IntelliJ IDEA 12 license at the doomsday sale. I wish there were another end of the world ;)
- rz2k 13y ago
  If only ISON returned really bright in the night sky. Then we could panic, riot in the streets and get a deal on Jetbrains software.
- coopaq 13y ago
  The upgrade will cost you about 8 dollars a month. 26 cents a day.
- asapargali 13y ago
  According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apo... next sale on 22 February :)
  - drKarl 13y ago
    Amazing, the Ragnarok is next year!!!!!
  - infinii 13y ago
    Can anyone confirm this sale date?
    - asapargali 13y ago
      No. Just joking.
- Semaphor 13y ago
  Yeah, hoping for that as well. If I'd still mainly work on Java I probably would buy the upgrade right now. But I switched to 90% C# - 10% Java.
martincmartin 13y ago
I hear they're working on a C++ IDE, I can't wait for it to come out.
- rdemmer 13y ago
  C/C++ IDE, try subscribe to preview: http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html
  - martincmartin 13y ago
    Thanks, I hadn't noticed that before! I just signed up, but unfortunately they don't have a Linux version yet.
  - eropple 13y ago
    Since moving to OS X fully I've become a real fan of Xcode. I'm curious to see how AppCode is when you can actually write Objective-C++ in it. I'm a fan of IDEA, but I'm a little skeptical of this (as AppCode right now isn't as nice as Xcode anyway).
    - olegstepanov 13y ago
      What do you miss most in AppCode from your XCode experience?
      - eropple 13y ago
        In no particular order (and I just downloaded 2.5 to check stuff so I wouldn't waste your time): - Counterparts. If it's there I can't find it. (Bonus points if it can do what Counterparts can't: jump-to-definition in the right pane puts the appropriate header in the left pane.) - Xcode-style back/forward buttons. Coupled with Counterparts, this is really flexible and pleasant to use. I'm familiar with ctrl-tab switching in IDEA but I don't really like it as much. - The debugger interface feels clunky. I'm used to it with Java/Scala in IDEA, but I feel like Xcode doesn't aggravate me as much. Perhaps it's just because it's more responsive in its presentation? - Having to remember to hit "Debug" rather than just "Run" is annoying. I get why it exists, but the first time I went "wait, why are my breakpoints not firing?", the need to make that decision lost me. - UI clutter everywhere. There's too much thrown at me, too fast. Opening AppCode's preferences pane is overwhelming even though I'm very familiar with IDEA (it's not good there either). There's too much crap thrown at me that I don't care about. I don't care about HTTP proxying. I don't care about XSLT files. I don't care about Live Templates. But they're taking up eye- and brain-space. I would strongly recommend that JetBrains figure out exactly what the 95% case actually use and find a way to progressively reveal remaining features for the 5%. - Native widgets. Everything just feels wrong and it's competing against a really wonderful native UI and experience, to its detriment. I really like IDEA because it's head and shoulders above Eclipse and NetBeans, but going from native Cocoa widgets to AppCode is very unpleasant. I strongly feel that the native widgets in Xcode make it feel more responsive, with animations and transitions that lend a feeling of "snappiness"; I don't know if it actually is faster than AppCode, but it feels it. - In this vein, making me go from the eye-shock that is AppCode to Xcode to use IB is probably not helping matters from a marketing perspective. Old-hotness/new-busted is reminding me of the pluses of Xcode, which probably isn't what JetBrains wants me to be thinking about. There are some things that I really enjoy in it - I like that it Just Works with my Xcode projects, I love that, when I use liblogog, the file/line paths that are emitted by logging statements become hyperlinks in the output window - but overall it's like using Linux on the desktop: there are a thousand little frustrations that make it less pleasant and pleasurable to use.
clavalle 13y ago
So, Android is supported in IDEA now? Nice. It is kind of annoying having two IDEs, one for Android development and one for everything else. Edit: Badly worded. What I meant to say are the Android Studio improvements and updates are now in Ultimate, which is nice.
- mdellabitta 13y ago
  IDEA's done Android for years now. And now it's the basis of Google's Android Studio.
  - rdemmer 13y ago
    IntelliJ IDEA is the base for Android Studio, the new IDE for Android developers. Read all about it: http://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2013/05/15/intellij-idea-is-the-base-for-android-studio-the-new-ide-for-android-developers/ http://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2013/05/15/intellij-idea-is-t...
    - clavalle 13y ago
      Badly worded on my part. What I meant was that Android Studio updates are now included in Ultimate since it was based on version 13, which is nice.
      - skelsey 13y ago
        IMO, Android Studio is still far behind IDEA 12. There are some new features in AS, but IDEA is far more stable.
- jasonwocky 13y ago
  I've been doing Android programming on IDEA 12. Aside from missing some of the Android Lint checks (which are apparently improved in 13), I've had no issues.
- maaaats 13y ago
  It's been supported "forever". I used it even before Android Studio, simply because it was better than the official Eclipse stuff.
henrik_w 13y ago
I've been using IntelliJ IDEA for many years (coming from C++ in EMACS), and it truly made me more productive: http://henrikwarne.com/2012/06/17/programmer-productivity-emacs-versus-intellij-idea/ http://henrikwarne.com/2012/06/17/programmer-productivity-em...
- octix 13y ago
  Besides IDEA what else have you used as a real IDE?
  - henrik_w 13y ago
    I haven't used any other IDEs really, so it is possible there are even better IDEs, but the step from Emacs to IDEA was huge (but of course it was also a switch from C++ to Java). Editor-wise it's Emacs and Vim (for the past year or so). What's your experience with IDEs?
    - octix 13y ago
      My thought was that any IDE would've made you more productive imho. That's the point of an IDE to give you as much possible so you could focus on your tasks...
      - hrabago 13y ago
        True story: Before Intellij, I was working for a client whose IDE standard was VisualCafe. I hated it so much and kept interfering with what I was doing that I actually reverted to Notepad and building/testing via command line. Not all IDEs can make you more productive.
rnikander 13y ago
Just trying the Scala plugin now. I really want to leave Eclipse. I wonder if it will show me implicit conversions and parameters, and if will handle hairy stuff like macros. And does it use the presentation compiler like ScalaIDE/Eclipse? If not I'll be surprised if can handle macros. So far, so good though. Need to import a bigger project as a test...
- sluukkonen 13y ago
  It does highlight implicit conversions by default (they're underlined and have a light blue background colour). I don't think it does anything special w.r.t. macros, but I might be wrong. As far as I know, they use their own compiler for highlighting type errors in the editor etc. and SBT for the "actual" compilation. The presentation compiler didn't exist when they started Scala support, so they rolled their own solution.
  - rnikander 13y ago
    My tests so far are encouraging. I'd like to know their intent with Scala. That plugin seemed to go nowhere for years, and ScalaIDE/Eclipse looked like it would be the only option. But ScalaIDE is still pretty buggy. If they are committed to making Scala support as good as their Java stuff, that would be awesome.
- kclay 13y ago
  I only tried macros with Play! and for the most part it handled the Json.as[T] macros but after a while It would produce a deadlock and start dumping the stack. I got around it by providing some type hints so it wasn't a big of an issue. Hopefully the fixed that.
octix 13y ago
I love and hate Eclipse/STS, but I don't think I will ever switch to IDEA, I love my freedom more. The least I can do for open source community is to use open source products and report bugs.
- brainburn 13y ago
  Go right ahead https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community
  - octix 13y ago
    But their community versions are not usable for web development.
    - heartbreak 13y ago
      I use Visual Studio and IntelliJ IDEA for C# and Java development, respectively. I cannot fathom a scenario in which I would need an IDE for web development. Perhaps heavy PHP development would benefit from JetBrains PhpStorm IDE, a free version of which is available for open source projects.
      - octix 13y ago
        I guess most used part would be an integrated tomcat server that I could start and stop within IDE, other web development features would be to work well with popular frameworks like spring...
      - anoncowherd 13y ago
        The commercial JetBrain IDEs have lovely support for JavaScript, HTML, CSS, YAML, SASS, LESS, JSON, and so on. There's lots of stuff you're missing out on if you do web development with the Community Edition. The IDEA Ultimate edition also supports lots of "enterprisey" stuff that the CE doesn't. Lots, of stuff.
      - alkonaut 13y ago
allengeorge 13y ago
I've been using the EAP for a while now, and it's been a real improvement over 12. I'd totally pay for the upgrade...and a Go IDE (hint, hint)
- lexalizer 13y ago
  Go IDE +1
  - jksmith 13y ago
    Add another for Golang
- lemming 13y ago
  Have you looked at this? https://github.com/mtoader/google-go-lang-idea-plugin https://github.com/mtoader/google-go-lang-idea-plugin. I haven't tried it but it's being actively developed and the feature list looks good.
- chinpokomon 13y ago
  Let them know. They already have a ticket [1] and more and more keep voting for a Go IDE or at least a supported plugin. Unfortunately the existing Go plugin broke during the 13 EAP, and last time I checked it still hasn't been updated. [1] http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938
codex 13y ago
Great--now when can we get decent font rendering for IDEA in Linux? The Swing rendering is horrible.
- neverminder 13y ago
  As I understand it, this issue is around for a very long time. The irony is that many developers choose Eclipse over IDEA or Netbeans, because Eclipse is the only IDE of the major trio that doesn't have this problem.
- VMG 13y ago
  I had those with Android Studio. _Removing_ these lines from studio$ARCH.vmoptions fixes the font issues on Arch Linux: -Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=lcd -Dswing.aatext=false
- timrichard 13y ago
  When I ran IDEA on Linux before OSX, the AAHack plugin really helped with this.
- maaaats 13y ago
  Do you have a screenshot of this rendering?
CaRDiaK 13y ago
Hopefully this might display a little better than IJ12 does with HiDPI in windows. It currently looks awful..
paperwork 13y ago
Since there seem to be some IntelliJ folks here, I'd like to bring up my pet peeve: please take advantage of modern, gigantic _wide_ monitors. It makes no sense for code to be in a single column on the left of the monitor while 2/3 of the right side is almost completely empty space. Instead of just allowing vertical scrolling, why not allow multiple columns and horizontal scrolling? This will result in the ability to see twice, in some cases three times as much code on screen!
- _JamesA_ 13y ago
  Multiple columns and horizontal scrolling? In addition to the existing panels you can split the editor window using Window->Editor Tabs->Split Horizontally.
- applecore 13y ago
  Open the context menu for a tab by right-clicking it, select "Split Vertically", and you'll have two columns for tabs.
  - codex 13y ago
    Yes, but it's a PITA to move buffers between the panes. No drag and drop? Horrible.
    - RossM 13y ago
      You can drag and drop but it's a bit picky - grab the file tab and drop it in the other pane's tabstrip. Definitely something that could be improved (as well as splitting to two panes gives you 2 panes of the same file..)
    - electrum 13y ago
      The drag and drop works but it's a bit weird. You have to drag the tab into the other editor window, not on the tab bar.
  - paperwork 13y ago
    I don't have intellij installed on my computer here, when you say 'split vertically,' do you mean it basically opens two views of same file next to each other, each view scrolling independently? If so, that isn't what I want -- almost every IDE and text editor already does that. What I want is similar to how MS Word takes a single blob of text and reflows it in multiple columns.
cmicali 13y ago
My day to day would be significantly harder, less fun, and more frustrating without IntelliJ. Big thanks to the team for making such an incredible product. No major updates for me in 13, but all the little things add up to a nice update.
ninjazee124 13y ago
Switched from Eclipse to IntelliJ for Java development about a year back and never looked back. It's amazing how good the tooling and autocomplete is. It's worth every dollar!
Sakes 13y ago
I can't begin to describe how much I love IntelliJ. I sometimes use eclipse or visual studio, but no one does IDE's like JetBrains. The best thing about Visual Studios is ReSharper. If you are a VS guy go buy the VS ReSharper Wrapper from JetBrains.
trailfox 13y ago
The most annoying thing about IntelliJ is the way it's keyboard shortcuts clash with virtually every keyboard shortcut of your average Linux distro. Other than that it's an awesome tool.
- krisdol 13y ago
  You can edit them to your heart's content though. I have never had an issue, but I use the "Default for XWin" setting. There are about a dozen other keymap templates available by default, though.
  - trailfox 13y ago
    I use the defaults, and then set about removing all shortcuts from my desktop
BruceM 13y ago
Over with Open Dylan (http://opendylan.org/ http://opendylan.org/), we've been building a new IDE using IntelliJ CE and it has been a joy. Even though we've gone the route of writing a whole new parser and doing new static analysis tools, it has been a pretty good experience so far. Can't say enough positive things about this.
sgt 13y ago
Anyone else also have this problem? When I try to start IntelliJ 13 on OS X, I get this in system.log: Dec 3 18:21:12 tk com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[281] (com.jetbrains.intellij.61632[52967]): Exited with code: 1
benblack86 13y ago
Anyone know how to use the new Scala plugin with sbt (tutotial link)? I've imported my sbt project, but it doesn't work.
benjamincburns 13y ago
I'm a recent convert. Most everything I do outside of Java development (C, Python, JavaScript) is in vim, but I just can't kick the IDE habit for Java dev. And then here comes IDEA making it even harder to quit! Being that I'm working on large codebases (GeoServer/GeoTools, and our own stuff), I'm really looking forward to the performance enhancements. I'm also very happy with the recent improvements to the IdeaVIM plugin. Still not quite as snappy as real vim, but it's getting closer with each release. Also, it looks like their download servers are getting hit pretty hard at the moment (getting 30-60KiB/sec on a 100Mbit downstream link). I'll take that as a strong vote of confidence!
tootie 13y ago
Looking at Spring request mappings is the last thing I could do in Eclipse that I couldn't do in IntelliJ.
lemmsjid 13y ago
Having used the beta, and as a Scala developer on a large multi-module project, this release is a game-changer performance-wise. The memory footprint is a small fraction of what it once was (literally). While memory is not really a big issue for a developer these days, this is huge because previously we were forced to run at large heaps, which would cause 'fun' GC pauses while typing. The code completion is now fast enough to put back into auto mode. Similarly, the find functionality is now instantaneous, even when you're finding variables. They've clearly been playing around with threading on the editor, because there seem to be many fewer situations where typing slows down while the system is thinking about other things. I've appreciated every IntelliJ upgrade. IntelliJ was 'mature' many years ago, but they continue to push and push and rethink features and experiment. This release just wowed me enough to gush about it :).
- kvtrew76557 13y ago
  I've also been using IntelliJ for various large projects written in Scala, currently on the fence deciding whether upgrading to 13 worthwhile. Really hoping for an upgrade discount for all those who purchased IntelliJ in the "end of the world" sale last year. I also wish they'd add better support for profiling and heap dump analysis.
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  - melling 13y ago
    I don't follow what you're asking for. Since you got a really cheap initial price, you feel that you should get a cheap upgrade price?
    - buzzkills 13y ago
      I think (s)he is hoping that an upgrade will be cheaper than buying whole new license irrespective of the cheap initial price.
  - millerm 13y ago
waterw 13y ago
So I've never really understood how the products are differentiated from each other. If I bought Intellij IDEA, does that mean I can download free plugins to get the same functionality as PyCharm? Does PyCharm support Javascript? If I want to do Django and Javascript, do I need to buy IDEA?
- gizmogwai 13y ago
  IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate brings you nearly all the feature that are available in the other version. PyCharm, WebStorm and others are cheaper but more focused on a single language.
- justafucker 13y ago
  as it was commented below IntelliJ IDEA includes almost the same support (mostly the same) for other languages (PHP/Ruby/Python) as other IntelliJ-based IDEs. But at the same time IntelliJ IDEA never was positioned as a "true" polyglot IDE. IntelliJ IDEA is Java platform IDE, in the first place. It does support other technologies via plugins though, it might be much more convenient to use dedicated IDEs for other technologies.
- thousande 13y ago
  I think IntelliJ IDEA has all the features of the other IDE products. Stuff are just added/removed by default and adjusted towards Java development
- WickyNilliams 13y ago
  As I understand it, the plugins give the exact functionality that the more language-specific products offer. However they are typically one version behind. e.g. if RubyMine is on v6, the ruby plugin for IDEA will have equivalent features of RubyMine v5
  - topka 13y ago
    IntelliJ IDEA is released once a year, and smaller IDEs are about twice a year. Because of this the plugins may miss some features for some time, that's true. But now, after the release of IntelliJ IDEA they will be updated with the latest Ruby, Python, PHP, etc. functionality
annasaru 13y ago
I had unrealistic expectations of this IDE... Some of the current enhancements are nice (Search anywhere, for example).. The favorite theme they tout (Darcula) is not yet upto Sublime's theme, IMO. Somehow it feels gratuitously helpful-- and I can't accuse it of getting in the way (an easy trap to fall into). When it came to Python, I could not stand Pycharm - which uses the kernel from the java Idea-IDE. (disclosure: when i code Python I use emacs, idle, or Wing Ide). So there is something in its DNA that I end up tolerating - but am not crazy about. edit: I ran away from eclipse - that atrocity, so Idea was a refugee camp.
- fphhotchips 13y ago
  There's definitely a difference between PyCharm and IDEA. I think it's that the code completion is psychic in IDEA, so I find myself writing about 1/3rd of each line and then hitting enter.
rahulrav 13y ago
Thanks for supporting Renderscript syntax highlighting. Please add support for building Android projects with Renderscript source files. That's the last reason why I use ADT.
jacobn 13y ago
If anyone else is having symbol resolution / syntax highlighter problems with their Play 2.x / Scala / SBT project after upgrading: be sure to File -> Invalidate Caches / Restart... http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6337 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6337 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6338 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6338 http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/cleaning-system-cache.html http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/cleaning-system-cache....
- SSLy 13y ago
  Holy shit, there it is. Thanks, man. On side note: you can see how they follow OS X patterns in filling blank space: then that cloth, now just dark texture (like notif center)
nizmow 13y ago
I'd love them to do a Mono / .NET IDE so that I wouldn't have to use Xamarin Studio on Linux / Mac anymore. Actually, I'm going to see if I can go put this on a wish list somewhere...
hhandoko 13y ago
I actually own licenses for various JetBrains products, I just wished they'd introduce bundled pricing.
binarycrusader 13y ago
My day job and most of my time is spent writing C/C++ code, so I'm usually working in vim. But IntelliJ is really, really good. The auto-completion is so phenomenal in IntelliJ, you'll be tempted to learn Java just to use it. Yes, that's fairly hyperbolic, but after using IntelliJ, I just can't ever go back to Eclipse or any other Java IDE. The ability to edit programs while they were running and then see the changes nearly instantaneously after saving without restarting the program was fantastic. (Worked just as well as Eclipse's after a few tweaks.) What I'm really looking forward to is what they do with C/C++ and possibly Go some day. IntelliJ is worth every penny if you write Java code; don't doubt it for a moment. Download the trial and use it if you find that hard to believe.
- bootily 13y ago
  You clearly have no idea what your talking about.
- tieTYT 13y ago
  > The ability to edit programs while they were running and then see the changes nearly instantaneously after saving without restarting the program was fantastic. This feature is news to me. That is, unless you're talking about using it with the jrebel plugin (and intellij can't really take credit for that). If this is not what you're referring to, do you have a link where I can learn more?
  - binarycrusader 13y ago
    Sure: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/reloading-classes.html http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/reloading-classes.html Mind you it's limited to the built-in method swapping that the JVM offers. But you can get more; see also: http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/07/get-true-hot-swap-in-java-with-dcevm-and-intellij-idea/ http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/07/get-true-hot-swap-in-... It was more than sufficient for my needs.
maccard 13y ago
I'm not a java developer, but their tools are fantastic. I started using PyCharm about 2 years ago, and nothing else compares. Only complaint I have is that PyCharm's updates aren't as quick as INtelliJ's, so when you guys get the nice features, we have to wait for it in PyCharm land.
- mdaniel 13y ago
  Depending on which features of PyCharm you use the most, you actually may benefit from the recent open-sourcing of PyCharm Community Edition. Now you can use (and theoretically fix bugs in) the master builds which track IJ development very closely.
konos 13y ago
I won't use it... It has so many bugs when I using android UI design tool. These bugs are annoying me. I'll use version 12 when version 13 is stable.
Egregore 13y ago
Even in community (free, open source) edition you can use the Haxe plugin, which will allow you to work with latest (3.0) Haxe version.
tuananh 13y ago
I got a free upgrade license since my purchase date is so close to the release date :D. JetBrains is awesome!

256 points by rdemmer 13y ago

I never thought I'd say it but it seems that they are getting close to the end of the line feature wise! Not a lot here that is making want to upgrade from 12...

pestaa 13y ago
At the office our jaws regularly drop at JetBrains' attention to detail, too. PHP development would be nightmare without their tools. If you're ever reading this, thank you guys very much.
- rdemmer 13y ago
  The team is definitely reading this and thank you for your kind works.
  - sergiotapia 13y ago
    RubyMine allowed me to learn Rails well and make a living for me and my family. Definitely the best $70 I've invested in my career. It literally changed my life by allowing me to make much more money as a Rails developer. Send my thanks to the RubyMine team! :)
    - rdemmer 13y ago
      I have passed your comment and this link along :-)
    - rdemmer 13y ago
      The team wants to know if they can use this on our website :-) Drop me a line at robert(dot)demmer[at]jetbrains(dot)com if you're willing.
  - castles 13y ago
    I vaguely recall a cross platform, clang integrating, c/c++ IDE was in the works? Any news? IntelliJ is awesome :)
    - rdemmer 13y ago
      Glad to hear you're digging IntelliJ. C/C++ IDE, try subscribe to preview: http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html
- taude 13y ago
  PyCharm was my gateway drug into JetBrains. Actually, it was the ReSharper plug-in for Visual Studio. Now days, I won't consider running software that doesn't run on multiple platforms. So glad that JetBrains is delivering great IDEs for those bigger development efforts.
- LordIllidan 13y ago
  I vaguely remember programming small to large PHP sites with just sublime text... never again. My impulsive purchase on the 21st December 2012 was the best thing I did that year.
jhawk28 13y ago
The updated Gradle support and Presentation mode are my reasons for upgrading. This may be the last release for me as I am starting to use Go more instead of Java.
mortyseinfeld 13y ago
Not even close. Intellij is more of a platform than just a Java IDE these days. They're busy at work on Kotlin, and still have all the other languages and frameworks to work on. Great job Jetbrains. Although I'm primarily a .NET ) developer (have resharper of course, I make sure to have the latest IDEA because it's such a great IDE
- rdemmer 13y ago
  Yep. IntelliJ is an IDE and Platform. In regards to ReSharper... stay tuned for an awesome upcoming webinar in February, ReSharper Secrets w/Igal Tabachnik. We will announce here in January: blogs.jetbrains.com/dotnet/
KevinEldon 13y ago
Auto-completion of Maven GAV and full screen mode are two of the many small features they've added in this release that I've enjoyed. I've been using the EAP for a few months and can't really say what's different between 12 and 13 anymore, I've forgotten about 12, but I know I've been pleasantly surprised consistently enough to happily pay $99 for an upgrade.
kaffeinecoma 13y ago
I pay for every upgrade simply for the support. A few times a year I get stuck on something; mere minutes after filing a support ticket, I have a resolution. They've got this guy "Serge" who must be locked in a room somewhere doing support because he always solves my issues within minutes. Amazing.
- rdemmer 13y ago
  #keepsergecaptive
- octix 13y ago
  Are you kidding, you need support for an IDE?
  - kaffeinecoma 13y ago
    Look, Intellij is the Emacs of IDEs. If you've not used it you have no idea of its depth. I've written plugins [1] for it, so I'm not an idiot. I regularly use it for Java, Scala, Clojure and Ruby, so yeah, sometimes it's worth paying someone to sort out issues for you. [1] https://github.com/armhold/wicket-source-intellij https://github.com/armhold/wicket-source-intellij
  - hrabago 13y ago
    Every software can have bugs.
danieldk 13y ago
It seems that they have invested a lot in Android support this release. Still, there are some really nice other changes that increase productivity, such as lens mode, lambda/closure support for 'smart step into', and JAX-RS 2.0 support. It's the refinement in every release that makes IntelliJ so great. That, plus their support of Kotlin, made upgrading to 13 (Ultimate) a no-brainer for me :).
jasonwocky 13y ago
IDEA is the one piece of software I buy that advertises "Faster performance!" with each new release...and actually delivers on it for me.
andrewcooke 13y ago
it's the only software i pay for; i buy each version as insurance they don't go away.

mgkimsal 13y ago

Offtopic, of course, but I'll post here anyway... I've been meaning to post a bug report about this - I can't get conditional breakpoints to work with Grails debugging. Regular breakpoints, fine, but conditionals... I get an error that "'this' is not available" when it hits the breakpoint. Searched around - can't find any other reports of this, but it's been a problem since at least IntelliJ 12, and in the 13 beta that I tried - I don't have 11 around any more, but I could swear it used to work. EDIT: added bug report: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117458 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117458 although it looks like it was reported and marked as 'fixed' in http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-100647 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-100647. Still doesn't seem to work though.

rdemmer 13y ago
I'll make sure the team is aware of your comment here.
- mgkimsal 13y ago
  thanks.

sz4kerto 13y ago

The mind-reader IDE, as we used to call it. It's sometimes scary when you create a new variable in a class and it gives you the perfect suggestion (based on what you did elsewhere in the code).

rdemmer 13y ago
I like this, "the mind-reader IDE"
- atonse 13y ago
  Yeah I don't think I could do .NET development anymore without ReSharper. Makes me wonder how much time I wasted by using Eclipse in my Java days instead of just forking over the cash for IDEA.
  - dgesang 13y ago
    Is ReSharper still as slow as it used to be 5 years ago (VS2008)? Eclipse does a lot of "mind-reading", too.
    - nizmow 13y ago
      I have to disagree with both of these guys, it was so slow in Visual Studio 2013 that I actually disabled it. Then I was forced to re-enable it when I couldn't live without the functionality.
      - atonse 13y ago
        I'm actually noticing a bit of a regression in Visual Studio 2013/RS 8. My Alt+Enter quick fix menu takes longer to just show up with any suggestions.
    - anilmujagic 13y ago
      It is lightning fast on my machine on both VS 2010 and 2012.

suyash 13y ago

How much is it? If I had the version 12, that I bought recently, do I need to pay for the new version to upgrade?

jhawk28 13y ago
Go to the Upgrade link: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp It will ask you for your license key when you click the upgrade now and send you the info over email.
glogla 13y ago
It seems to be 180 EUR for new developers.
- lexalizer 13y ago
  It's a great IDE and totally worth the money.
- danieldk 13y ago
  Excluding VAT. But, it's well worth the money if you are doing JVM development daily. Besides that, the community edition is a good place to start if you do not need J2EE, servlet container support, etc.
lexalizer 13y ago
From what I understand, starting with V13 personal licenses will include 1 year free upgrades. I thought V12 licenses younger than 1 year will work with V13, but that's not the case. I like the IDE, but I will stick with v12 for now.
- TylerE 13y ago
  1 year of updates not upgrades. Otherwise you'd only "need" to buy an upgrade every other year.
  - lexalizer 13y ago

wiradikusuma 13y ago

Slightly off topic, the Pinterest-style layout (not horizontally-aligned) is annoying. It's difficult to read. Other than that, congrats! IntelliJ is the only IDE that keeps surprising me in positive ways (like, "OMG, it can do that?") EDIT: Arrgh, seriously it's difficult to read. Is there a list with conventional layout?

arota 13y ago

I'm still looking forward to the 'Sublime Text'-like column mode selection feature[1], currently the top voted feature request, which will be an excellent addition to IntelliJ. Unfortunately it looks like we'll have to wait until version 14 for this. [1] - http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-80056 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-80056

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netcraft 13y ago
with jetbrains folks in here it would be nice to get a comment from them on this. Even just something that says its not coming would be better than no response at all. I love intellij, but sublime multi cursors would be a huge performance improvement. Right now I keep idea, sublime and notepad++ open most of the day.
- justafucker 13y ago
  please find my comment above
Systemic33 13y ago
It's present in PyCharm, and it's pretty cool and usefull :P
justafucker 13y ago
we know about this request and understand it's importance. however it can't be done quickly as there are some things to change in the core of the editor. i hope to see it in 14 or even early nobody can tell in advance. will keep posted. i'm sure it will be implemented

harshadura 13y ago

Really love this IDE.. superb

weaksauce 13y ago

Awesome! The only thing that I am really wanting is multi key timeouts in the ideavim plugin. So you can have jj remap to Esc in insert mode.

merqumab 13y ago
If you haven't already, it might be a good idea to vote for that feature: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-448 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-448 and http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-518 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/VIM-518
mortyseinfeld 13y ago
Have you ever remapped Esc to Cap Lock?

mekishizufu 13y ago

I wish they offered to download the release via torrent, the download speed from their servers is terrible (currently getting only +- 150 KB/s).

kevbry 13y ago

Still no support for projects on UNC paths, so not terribly useful for those forced to use folder remapping in Windows. I'd love to switch our students away from Eclipse, but without UNC support it can't happen.

brianwawok 13y ago
You can't code on a folder on the desktop, and copy it off to network drive when done? Or better yet, push up to a git repo?
r4vik 13y ago
can't you map UNC paths to virtual local mount points? like \\server\blah\foo to C:\projects\foo

josso 13y ago

Great update, but still no support for Java 7 only in OS X. :(

danieldk 13y ago
I take that you mean running IntelliJ under Java 7? JDK 7 and 8 work fine for development!
- josso 13y ago
  Exactly. I should've mentioned that. You can't run IDEA with only Oracle JRE 7. You need to install Apple's JRE 6 too.
  - Glide 13y ago
    I think it has to do with retina display support in the Oracle JRE 7. I remember searching for retina display stuff in JDKs and saw a post from the people from JetBrains post differences between the JDK 6 from Apple and JDK 7 from Oracle. It was also a very informative post as well.
  - nicity 13y ago
    there is IntelliJ IDEA distribution with bundled JDK 7 (replace ideaIU-13.dmg with ideaIU-13-jdk-bundled.dmg in download link) but it isn't recommended because of JDK related issues
praseodym 13y ago
They did have RC builds that did, but those had some nasty bugs w.r.t. font rendering: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117324 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-117324 (Not really sure if it's Oracle's or JetBrains' fault)
- cjkent 13y ago
  There were lots of problems running IntelliJ 13 under JDK7 on the Mac, many of them related to focus. Popups appearing behind the main window, keystrokes going to the editor when a modal dialog is visible, that kind of thing. Also none of the key bindings that include the alt key worked. It definitely wasn't ready. Works brilliantly with JDK6 though, I can't recommend it enough.

drKarl 13y ago

I got my IntelliJ IDEA 12 license at the doomsday sale. I wish there were another end of the world ;)

rz2k 13y ago
If only ISON returned really bright in the night sky. Then we could panic, riot in the streets and get a deal on Jetbrains software.
coopaq 13y ago
The upgrade will cost you about 8 dollars a month. 26 cents a day.
asapargali 13y ago
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apo... next sale on 22 February :)
- drKarl 13y ago
  Amazing, the Ragnarok is next year!!!!!
- infinii 13y ago
  Can anyone confirm this sale date?
  - asapargali 13y ago
    No. Just joking.
Semaphor 13y ago
Yeah, hoping for that as well. If I'd still mainly work on Java I probably would buy the upgrade right now. But I switched to 90% C# - 10% Java.

martincmartin 13y ago

I hear they're working on a C++ IDE, I can't wait for it to come out.

rdemmer 13y ago
C/C++ IDE, try subscribe to preview: http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html
- martincmartin 13y ago
  Thanks, I hadn't noticed that before! I just signed up, but unfortunately they don't have a Linux version yet.
- eropple 13y ago
  Since moving to OS X fully I've become a real fan of Xcode. I'm curious to see how AppCode is when you can actually write Objective-C++ in it. I'm a fan of IDEA, but I'm a little skeptical of this (as AppCode right now isn't as nice as Xcode anyway).
  - olegstepanov 13y ago
    What do you miss most in AppCode from your XCode experience?
    - eropple 13y ago
      In no particular order (and I just downloaded 2.5 to check stuff so I wouldn't waste your time): - Counterparts. If it's there I can't find it. (Bonus points if it can do what Counterparts can't: jump-to-definition in the right pane puts the appropriate header in the left pane.) - Xcode-style back/forward buttons. Coupled with Counterparts, this is really flexible and pleasant to use. I'm familiar with ctrl-tab switching in IDEA but I don't really like it as much. - The debugger interface feels clunky. I'm used to it with Java/Scala in IDEA, but I feel like Xcode doesn't aggravate me as much. Perhaps it's just because it's more responsive in its presentation? - Having to remember to hit "Debug" rather than just "Run" is annoying. I get why it exists, but the first time I went "wait, why are my breakpoints not firing?", the need to make that decision lost me. - UI clutter everywhere. There's too much thrown at me, too fast. Opening AppCode's preferences pane is overwhelming even though I'm very familiar with IDEA (it's not good there either). There's too much crap thrown at me that I don't care about. I don't care about HTTP proxying. I don't care about XSLT files. I don't care about Live Templates. But they're taking up eye- and brain-space. I would strongly recommend that JetBrains figure out exactly what the 95% case actually use and find a way to progressively reveal remaining features for the 5%. - Native widgets. Everything just feels wrong and it's competing against a really wonderful native UI and experience, to its detriment. I really like IDEA because it's head and shoulders above Eclipse and NetBeans, but going from native Cocoa widgets to AppCode is very unpleasant. I strongly feel that the native widgets in Xcode make it feel more responsive, with animations and transitions that lend a feeling of "snappiness"; I don't know if it actually is faster than AppCode, but it feels it. - In this vein, making me go from the eye-shock that is AppCode to Xcode to use IB is probably not helping matters from a marketing perspective. Old-hotness/new-busted is reminding me of the pluses of Xcode, which probably isn't what JetBrains wants me to be thinking about. There are some things that I really enjoy in it - I like that it Just Works with my Xcode projects, I love that, when I use liblogog, the file/line paths that are emitted by logging statements become hyperlinks in the output window - but overall it's like using Linux on the desktop: there are a thousand little frustrations that make it less pleasant and pleasurable to use.

clavalle 13y ago

So, Android is supported in IDEA now? Nice. It is kind of annoying having two IDEs, one for Android development and one for everything else. Edit: Badly worded. What I meant to say are the Android Studio improvements and updates are now in Ultimate, which is nice.

mdellabitta 13y ago
IDEA's done Android for years now. And now it's the basis of Google's Android Studio.
- rdemmer 13y ago
  IntelliJ IDEA is the base for Android Studio, the new IDE for Android developers. Read all about it: http://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2013/05/15/intellij-idea-is-the-base-for-android-studio-the-new-ide-for-android-developers/ http://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2013/05/15/intellij-idea-is-t...
  - clavalle 13y ago
    Badly worded on my part. What I meant was that Android Studio updates are now included in Ultimate since it was based on version 13, which is nice.
    - skelsey 13y ago
      IMO, Android Studio is still far behind IDEA 12. There are some new features in AS, but IDEA is far more stable.
jasonwocky 13y ago
I've been doing Android programming on IDEA 12. Aside from missing some of the Android Lint checks (which are apparently improved in 13), I've had no issues.
maaaats 13y ago
It's been supported "forever". I used it even before Android Studio, simply because it was better than the official Eclipse stuff.

henrik_w 13y ago

I've been using IntelliJ IDEA for many years (coming from C++ in EMACS), and it truly made me more productive: http://henrikwarne.com/2012/06/17/programmer-productivity-emacs-versus-intellij-idea/ http://henrikwarne.com/2012/06/17/programmer-productivity-em...

octix 13y ago
Besides IDEA what else have you used as a real IDE?
- henrik_w 13y ago
  I haven't used any other IDEs really, so it is possible there are even better IDEs, but the step from Emacs to IDEA was huge (but of course it was also a switch from C++ to Java). Editor-wise it's Emacs and Vim (for the past year or so). What's your experience with IDEs?
  - octix 13y ago
    My thought was that any IDE would've made you more productive imho. That's the point of an IDE to give you as much possible so you could focus on your tasks...
    - hrabago 13y ago
      True story: Before Intellij, I was working for a client whose IDE standard was VisualCafe. I hated it so much and kept interfering with what I was doing that I actually reverted to Notepad and building/testing via command line. Not all IDEs can make you more productive.

rnikander 13y ago

Just trying the Scala plugin now. I really want to leave Eclipse. I wonder if it will show me implicit conversions and parameters, and if will handle hairy stuff like macros. And does it use the presentation compiler like ScalaIDE/Eclipse? If not I'll be surprised if can handle macros. So far, so good though. Need to import a bigger project as a test...

sluukkonen 13y ago
It does highlight implicit conversions by default (they're underlined and have a light blue background colour). I don't think it does anything special w.r.t. macros, but I might be wrong. As far as I know, they use their own compiler for highlighting type errors in the editor etc. and SBT for the "actual" compilation. The presentation compiler didn't exist when they started Scala support, so they rolled their own solution.
- rnikander 13y ago
  My tests so far are encouraging. I'd like to know their intent with Scala. That plugin seemed to go nowhere for years, and ScalaIDE/Eclipse looked like it would be the only option. But ScalaIDE is still pretty buggy. If they are committed to making Scala support as good as their Java stuff, that would be awesome.
kclay 13y ago
I only tried macros with Play! and for the most part it handled the Json.as[T] macros but after a while It would produce a deadlock and start dumping the stack. I got around it by providing some type hints so it wasn't a big of an issue. Hopefully the fixed that.

octix 13y ago

I love and hate Eclipse/STS, but I don't think I will ever switch to IDEA, I love my freedom more. The least I can do for open source community is to use open source products and report bugs.

brainburn 13y ago
Go right ahead https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community
- octix 13y ago
  But their community versions are not usable for web development.
  - heartbreak 13y ago
    I use Visual Studio and IntelliJ IDEA for C# and Java development, respectively. I cannot fathom a scenario in which I would need an IDE for web development. Perhaps heavy PHP development would benefit from JetBrains PhpStorm IDE, a free version of which is available for open source projects.
    - octix 13y ago
      I guess most used part would be an integrated tomcat server that I could start and stop within IDE, other web development features would be to work well with popular frameworks like spring...
    - anoncowherd 13y ago
      The commercial JetBrain IDEs have lovely support for JavaScript, HTML, CSS, YAML, SASS, LESS, JSON, and so on. There's lots of stuff you're missing out on if you do web development with the Community Edition. The IDEA Ultimate edition also supports lots of "enterprisey" stuff that the CE doesn't. Lots, of stuff.
    - alkonaut 13y ago

allengeorge 13y ago

I've been using the EAP for a while now, and it's been a real improvement over 12. I'd totally pay for the upgrade...and a Go IDE (hint, hint)

lexalizer 13y ago
Go IDE +1
- jksmith 13y ago
  Add another for Golang
lemming 13y ago
Have you looked at this? https://github.com/mtoader/google-go-lang-idea-plugin https://github.com/mtoader/google-go-lang-idea-plugin. I haven't tried it but it's being actively developed and the feature list looks good.
chinpokomon 13y ago
Let them know. They already have a ticket [1] and more and more keep voting for a Go IDE or at least a supported plugin. Unfortunately the existing Go plugin broke during the 13 EAP, and last time I checked it still hasn't been updated. [1] http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938

codex 13y ago

Great--now when can we get decent font rendering for IDEA in Linux? The Swing rendering is horrible.

neverminder 13y ago
As I understand it, this issue is around for a very long time. The irony is that many developers choose Eclipse over IDEA or Netbeans, because Eclipse is the only IDE of the major trio that doesn't have this problem.
VMG 13y ago
I had those with Android Studio. _Removing_ these lines from studio$ARCH.vmoptions fixes the font issues on Arch Linux: -Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=lcd -Dswing.aatext=false
timrichard 13y ago
When I ran IDEA on Linux before OSX, the AAHack plugin really helped with this.
maaaats 13y ago
Do you have a screenshot of this rendering?

CaRDiaK 13y ago

Hopefully this might display a little better than IJ12 does with HiDPI in windows. It currently looks awful..

paperwork 13y ago

Since there seem to be some IntelliJ folks here, I'd like to bring up my pet peeve: please take advantage of modern, gigantic _wide_ monitors. It makes no sense for code to be in a single column on the left of the monitor while 2/3 of the right side is almost completely empty space. Instead of just allowing vertical scrolling, why not allow multiple columns and horizontal scrolling? This will result in the ability to see twice, in some cases three times as much code on screen!

_JamesA_ 13y ago
Multiple columns and horizontal scrolling? In addition to the existing panels you can split the editor window using Window->Editor Tabs->Split Horizontally.
applecore 13y ago
Open the context menu for a tab by right-clicking it, select "Split Vertically", and you'll have two columns for tabs.
- codex 13y ago
  Yes, but it's a PITA to move buffers between the panes. No drag and drop? Horrible.
  - RossM 13y ago
    You can drag and drop but it's a bit picky - grab the file tab and drop it in the other pane's tabstrip. Definitely something that could be improved (as well as splitting to two panes gives you 2 panes of the same file..)
  - electrum 13y ago
    The drag and drop works but it's a bit weird. You have to drag the tab into the other editor window, not on the tab bar.
- paperwork 13y ago
  I don't have intellij installed on my computer here, when you say 'split vertically,' do you mean it basically opens two views of same file next to each other, each view scrolling independently? If so, that isn't what I want -- almost every IDE and text editor already does that. What I want is similar to how MS Word takes a single blob of text and reflows it in multiple columns.

cmicali 13y ago

My day to day would be significantly harder, less fun, and more frustrating without IntelliJ. Big thanks to the team for making such an incredible product. No major updates for me in 13, but all the little things add up to a nice update.

ninjazee124 13y ago

Switched from Eclipse to IntelliJ for Java development about a year back and never looked back. It's amazing how good the tooling and autocomplete is. It's worth every dollar!

Sakes 13y ago

I can't begin to describe how much I love IntelliJ. I sometimes use eclipse or visual studio, but no one does IDE's like JetBrains. The best thing about Visual Studios is ReSharper. If you are a VS guy go buy the VS ReSharper Wrapper from JetBrains.

trailfox 13y ago

The most annoying thing about IntelliJ is the way it's keyboard shortcuts clash with virtually every keyboard shortcut of your average Linux distro. Other than that it's an awesome tool.

krisdol 13y ago
You can edit them to your heart's content though. I have never had an issue, but I use the "Default for XWin" setting. There are about a dozen other keymap templates available by default, though.
- trailfox 13y ago
  I use the defaults, and then set about removing all shortcuts from my desktop

BruceM 13y ago

Over with Open Dylan (http://opendylan.org/ http://opendylan.org/), we've been building a new IDE using IntelliJ CE and it has been a joy. Even though we've gone the route of writing a whole new parser and doing new static analysis tools, it has been a pretty good experience so far. Can't say enough positive things about this.

sgt 13y ago

Anyone else also have this problem? When I try to start IntelliJ 13 on OS X, I get this in system.log: Dec 3 18:21:12 tk com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[281] (com.jetbrains.intellij.61632[52967]): Exited with code: 1

benblack86 13y ago

Anyone know how to use the new Scala plugin with sbt (tutotial link)? I've imported my sbt project, but it doesn't work.

benjamincburns 13y ago

I'm a recent convert. Most everything I do outside of Java development (C, Python, JavaScript) is in vim, but I just can't kick the IDE habit for Java dev. And then here comes IDEA making it even harder to quit! Being that I'm working on large codebases (GeoServer/GeoTools, and our own stuff), I'm really looking forward to the performance enhancements. I'm also very happy with the recent improvements to the IdeaVIM plugin. Still not quite as snappy as real vim, but it's getting closer with each release. Also, it looks like their download servers are getting hit pretty hard at the moment (getting 30-60KiB/sec on a 100Mbit downstream link). I'll take that as a strong vote of confidence!

tootie 13y ago

Looking at Spring request mappings is the last thing I could do in Eclipse that I couldn't do in IntelliJ.

lemmsjid 13y ago

Having used the beta, and as a Scala developer on a large multi-module project, this release is a game-changer performance-wise. The memory footprint is a small fraction of what it once was (literally). While memory is not really a big issue for a developer these days, this is huge because previously we were forced to run at large heaps, which would cause 'fun' GC pauses while typing. The code completion is now fast enough to put back into auto mode. Similarly, the find functionality is now instantaneous, even when you're finding variables. They've clearly been playing around with threading on the editor, because there seem to be many fewer situations where typing slows down while the system is thinking about other things. I've appreciated every IntelliJ upgrade. IntelliJ was 'mature' many years ago, but they continue to push and push and rethink features and experiment. This release just wowed me enough to gush about it :).

kvtrew76557 13y ago
I've also been using IntelliJ for various large projects written in Scala, currently on the fence deciding whether upgrading to 13 worthwhile. Really hoping for an upgrade discount for all those who purchased IntelliJ in the "end of the world" sale last year. I also wish they'd add better support for profiling and heap dump analysis.
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- melling 13y ago
  I don't follow what you're asking for. Since you got a really cheap initial price, you feel that you should get a cheap upgrade price?
  - buzzkills 13y ago
    I think (s)he is hoping that an upgrade will be cheaper than buying whole new license irrespective of the cheap initial price.
- millerm 13y ago

waterw 13y ago

So I've never really understood how the products are differentiated from each other. If I bought Intellij IDEA, does that mean I can download free plugins to get the same functionality as PyCharm? Does PyCharm support Javascript? If I want to do Django and Javascript, do I need to buy IDEA?

gizmogwai 13y ago
IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate brings you nearly all the feature that are available in the other version. PyCharm, WebStorm and others are cheaper but more focused on a single language.
justafucker 13y ago
as it was commented below IntelliJ IDEA includes almost the same support (mostly the same) for other languages (PHP/Ruby/Python) as other IntelliJ-based IDEs. But at the same time IntelliJ IDEA never was positioned as a "true" polyglot IDE. IntelliJ IDEA is Java platform IDE, in the first place. It does support other technologies via plugins though, it might be much more convenient to use dedicated IDEs for other technologies.
thousande 13y ago
I think IntelliJ IDEA has all the features of the other IDE products. Stuff are just added/removed by default and adjusted towards Java development
WickyNilliams 13y ago
As I understand it, the plugins give the exact functionality that the more language-specific products offer. However they are typically one version behind. e.g. if RubyMine is on v6, the ruby plugin for IDEA will have equivalent features of RubyMine v5
- topka 13y ago
  IntelliJ IDEA is released once a year, and smaller IDEs are about twice a year. Because of this the plugins may miss some features for some time, that's true. But now, after the release of IntelliJ IDEA they will be updated with the latest Ruby, Python, PHP, etc. functionality

annasaru 13y ago

I had unrealistic expectations of this IDE... Some of the current enhancements are nice (Search anywhere, for example).. The favorite theme they tout (Darcula) is not yet upto Sublime's theme, IMO. Somehow it feels gratuitously helpful-- and I can't accuse it of getting in the way (an easy trap to fall into). When it came to Python, I could not stand Pycharm - which uses the kernel from the java Idea-IDE. (disclosure: when i code Python I use emacs, idle, or Wing Ide). So there is something in its DNA that I end up tolerating - but am not crazy about. edit: I ran away from eclipse - that atrocity, so Idea was a refugee camp.

fphhotchips 13y ago
There's definitely a difference between PyCharm and IDEA. I think it's that the code completion is psychic in IDEA, so I find myself writing about 1/3rd of each line and then hitting enter.

rahulrav 13y ago

Thanks for supporting Renderscript syntax highlighting. Please add support for building Android projects with Renderscript source files. That's the last reason why I use ADT.

jacobn 13y ago

If anyone else is having symbol resolution / syntax highlighter problems with their Play 2.x / Scala / SBT project after upgrading: be sure to File -> Invalidate Caches / Restart... http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6337 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6337 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6338 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SCL-6338 http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/cleaning-system-cache.html http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/cleaning-system-cache....

SSLy 13y ago
Holy shit, there it is. Thanks, man. On side note: you can see how they follow OS X patterns in filling blank space: then that cloth, now just dark texture (like notif center)

nizmow 13y ago

I'd love them to do a Mono / .NET IDE so that I wouldn't have to use Xamarin Studio on Linux / Mac anymore. Actually, I'm going to see if I can go put this on a wish list somewhere...

hhandoko 13y ago

I actually own licenses for various JetBrains products, I just wished they'd introduce bundled pricing.

binarycrusader 13y ago

My day job and most of my time is spent writing C/C++ code, so I'm usually working in vim. But IntelliJ is really, really good. The auto-completion is so phenomenal in IntelliJ, you'll be tempted to learn Java just to use it. Yes, that's fairly hyperbolic, but after using IntelliJ, I just can't ever go back to Eclipse or any other Java IDE. The ability to edit programs while they were running and then see the changes nearly instantaneously after saving without restarting the program was fantastic. (Worked just as well as Eclipse's after a few tweaks.) What I'm really looking forward to is what they do with C/C++ and possibly Go some day. IntelliJ is worth every penny if you write Java code; don't doubt it for a moment. Download the trial and use it if you find that hard to believe.

bootily 13y ago
You clearly have no idea what your talking about.
tieTYT 13y ago
> The ability to edit programs while they were running and then see the changes nearly instantaneously after saving without restarting the program was fantastic. This feature is news to me. That is, unless you're talking about using it with the jrebel plugin (and intellij can't really take credit for that). If this is not what you're referring to, do you have a link where I can learn more?
- binarycrusader 13y ago
  Sure: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/reloading-classes.html http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/reloading-classes.html Mind you it's limited to the built-in method swapping that the JVM offers. But you can get more; see also: http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/07/get-true-hot-swap-in-java-with-dcevm-and-intellij-idea/ http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/07/get-true-hot-swap-in-... It was more than sufficient for my needs.

maccard 13y ago

I'm not a java developer, but their tools are fantastic. I started using PyCharm about 2 years ago, and nothing else compares. Only complaint I have is that PyCharm's updates aren't as quick as INtelliJ's, so when you guys get the nice features, we have to wait for it in PyCharm land.

mdaniel 13y ago
Depending on which features of PyCharm you use the most, you actually may benefit from the recent open-sourcing of PyCharm Community Edition. Now you can use (and theoretically fix bugs in) the master builds which track IJ development very closely.

konos 13y ago

I won't use it... It has so many bugs when I using android UI design tool. These bugs are annoying me. I'll use version 12 when version 13 is stable.

Egregore 13y ago

Even in community (free, open source) edition you can use the Haxe plugin, which will allow you to work with latest (3.0) Haxe version.

tuananh 13y ago

I got a free upgrade license since my purchase date is so close to the release date :D. JetBrains is awesome!