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EveryBlock source code released

92 points by blazamos 17y ago

christofd 17y ago
Truly amazing - giving away the source code! This will encourage many others, using this system, to start local micro-news channels in their own communities. Instead of the local newspaper/TV channel owning the regional media turf, this could enable discussion culture in a more democratic way. The question is... aside from hackers: who is ready for this? I remember the cartoon from Gaping Void - "the future belongs to the geeks, nobody else wants it" - http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003301.html http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003301.html
- bretthoerner 17y ago
  > Truly amazing - giving away the source code! They had to as part of the terms for the Knight Foundation Grant. Not that it's any less amazing, or anything. Just saying.
  - jimboyoungblood 17y ago
    Knight Foundation, as in the people behind KITT?
    - SwellJoe 17y ago
      That was Knight Industries, silly (Knight Industries Two Thousand). Obviously, Knight Foundation is the non-profit arm of the company. Seriously, though, I assumed it's a non-profit associated with Knight Ridder, who publish newspapers and such. Which I just noticed is only one letter off of Knight Rider. Coincidence?
ben 17y ago
They really seem to have gone beyond the terms of their funding and tried to extract the code into useful standalone pieces. Thanks for that, guys.
forsaken 17y ago
Not everyday that you get to see the last 2 years of internal works of the minds of 3 commiters on a major open source web framework. There's some crazy and amazing code in there. Going to take a good while to extract all of the awesome out, but it is bound to be one of the bigger contributions to open source in quite some time.
pibefision 17y ago
Congrats! this is great!
brandnewlow 17y ago
It's up on Github: http://github.com/brosner/everyblock_code/tree/master http://github.com/brosner/everyblock_code/tree/master
- adrianwaj 17y ago
  http://code.google.com/p/ebcode/ http://code.google.com/p/ebcode/ too.
kompiebutut 17y ago
what a great news!
- billydean 17y ago
  Mamma mia! That's-a some great-a news!
mjr578 17y ago
I wonder if they are going to release their iPhone app code as well.
adrianwaj 17y ago
I wonder beyond just city names, what extra data is needed to get an implementation running. What map data is required, how about GPS data? What is the geographic taxonomy... suburbs, zones? I'd like to get something running, but want to have the code as comprehensively implemented as possible.
- adrianwaj 17y ago
  I've sent some feedback to EB, but will post here especially with it being now open-source: -- There should be a page of installations for various countries it has been setup. This may prevent duplicated efforts for various countries, and better promote existing implementations. Also, non-programmers would be interested ie potential webmasters or administrators. Even a hosted version could be a good business model. As such, check out http://nationbuilder.com http://nationbuilder.com when it's released stemming from http://whitehouse2.org http://whitehouse2.org And multi-language? What if I'd like to do something for a single country in two language versions. -- Also, only Business Reviews, Lost and Found, and Real Estate listings, when clicked bring up actual data. Otherwise, the user sees an information measurement screen before reaching any data. This intermediary step detracts from the site - why can't there be an aggregation of all information from that category in an added feed column that's also available in RSS. This would be especially useful for cities just beginning and when there's not a lot of data, or, when all subcategories are of interest to a user. For example, an rss feed of all police calls for an entire city would be of interest to reporters. Even Craigslist has an aggregation, per city > per information top-category: http://telaviv.craigslist.org/jjj/ http://telaviv.craigslist.org/jjj/ .. with rss
nopal 17y ago
Unfortunately, the HTML and CSS that makes EveryBlock so useful is not included in this release. I'm not sure why the Knight Foundation didn't insist that these components be part of the release, unless the designers were paid out of a separate budget. I understand that releasing these components would have led to clones of the site, but I think, to a certain extent, that is one of the goals of the project.
- jonknee 17y ago
  HTML/CSS is the easy part. Screen scraping and normalizing/organizing all the data and writing a custom mapping service were the tough ones.
  - nopal 17y ago
    I beg to differ. Coming up with an easy-to-understand, easy-to-use interface for the surfeit of data is incredibly difficult.
    - jonknee 17y ago
      EveryBlock could have been successful with any number of designs, the interesting part about the site is the data and its organization. I agree that it's great looking, but a site doesn't have to be great looking to be a hit (Craigslist for example).
      - nopal 17y ago
        True, it could have been. To me, it would have been nice to have the design to use as a starting point. It also seems that it's part of the source code of the site. When reddit went open source, they included their CSS, images, HTML, etc. I think this makes it easier to get going. Reddit and EveryBlock are going to continue to innovate enough to differentiate themselves from the clones. I also hope they've included the mapping code/JavaScript. I haven't had a chance to look through the source to see if this is the case.
- igorgue 17y ago

92 points by blazamos 17y ago

Truly amazing - giving away the source code! This will encourage many others, using this system, to start local micro-news channels in their own communities. Instead of the local newspaper/TV channel owning the regional media turf, this could enable discussion culture in a more democratic way. The question is... aside from hackers: who is ready for this? I remember the cartoon from Gaping Void - "the future belongs to the geeks, nobody else wants it" - http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003301.html http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003301.html

bretthoerner 17y ago
> Truly amazing - giving away the source code! They had to as part of the terms for the Knight Foundation Grant. Not that it's any less amazing, or anything. Just saying.
- jimboyoungblood 17y ago
  Knight Foundation, as in the people behind KITT?
  - SwellJoe 17y ago
    That was Knight Industries, silly (Knight Industries Two Thousand). Obviously, Knight Foundation is the non-profit arm of the company. Seriously, though, I assumed it's a non-profit associated with Knight Ridder, who publish newspapers and such. Which I just noticed is only one letter off of Knight Rider. Coincidence?

ben 17y ago

They really seem to have gone beyond the terms of their funding and tried to extract the code into useful standalone pieces. Thanks for that, guys.

forsaken 17y ago

Not everyday that you get to see the last 2 years of internal works of the minds of 3 commiters on a major open source web framework. There's some crazy and amazing code in there. Going to take a good while to extract all of the awesome out, but it is bound to be one of the bigger contributions to open source in quite some time.

pibefision 17y ago

Congrats! this is great!

brandnewlow 17y ago

It's up on Github: http://github.com/brosner/everyblock_code/tree/master http://github.com/brosner/everyblock_code/tree/master

adrianwaj 17y ago
http://code.google.com/p/ebcode/ http://code.google.com/p/ebcode/ too.

kompiebutut 17y ago

what a great news!

billydean 17y ago
Mamma mia! That's-a some great-a news!

mjr578 17y ago

I wonder if they are going to release their iPhone app code as well.

adrianwaj 17y ago

I wonder beyond just city names, what extra data is needed to get an implementation running. What map data is required, how about GPS data? What is the geographic taxonomy... suburbs, zones? I'd like to get something running, but want to have the code as comprehensively implemented as possible.

adrianwaj 17y ago
I've sent some feedback to EB, but will post here especially with it being now open-source: -- There should be a page of installations for various countries it has been setup. This may prevent duplicated efforts for various countries, and better promote existing implementations. Also, non-programmers would be interested ie potential webmasters or administrators. Even a hosted version could be a good business model. As such, check out http://nationbuilder.com http://nationbuilder.com when it's released stemming from http://whitehouse2.org http://whitehouse2.org And multi-language? What if I'd like to do something for a single country in two language versions. -- Also, only Business Reviews, Lost and Found, and Real Estate listings, when clicked bring up actual data. Otherwise, the user sees an information measurement screen before reaching any data. This intermediary step detracts from the site - why can't there be an aggregation of all information from that category in an added feed column that's also available in RSS. This would be especially useful for cities just beginning and when there's not a lot of data, or, when all subcategories are of interest to a user. For example, an rss feed of all police calls for an entire city would be of interest to reporters. Even Craigslist has an aggregation, per city > per information top-category: http://telaviv.craigslist.org/jjj/ http://telaviv.craigslist.org/jjj/ .. with rss

nopal 17y ago

Unfortunately, the HTML and CSS that makes EveryBlock so useful is not included in this release. I'm not sure why the Knight Foundation didn't insist that these components be part of the release, unless the designers were paid out of a separate budget. I understand that releasing these components would have led to clones of the site, but I think, to a certain extent, that is one of the goals of the project.

jonknee 17y ago
HTML/CSS is the easy part. Screen scraping and normalizing/organizing all the data and writing a custom mapping service were the tough ones.
- nopal 17y ago
  I beg to differ. Coming up with an easy-to-understand, easy-to-use interface for the surfeit of data is incredibly difficult.
  - jonknee 17y ago
    EveryBlock could have been successful with any number of designs, the interesting part about the site is the data and its organization. I agree that it's great looking, but a site doesn't have to be great looking to be a hit (Craigslist for example).
    - nopal 17y ago
      True, it could have been. To me, it would have been nice to have the design to use as a starting point. It also seems that it's part of the source code of the site. When reddit went open source, they included their CSS, images, HTML, etc. I think this makes it easier to get going. Reddit and EveryBlock are going to continue to innovate enough to differentiate themselves from the clones. I also hope they've included the mapping code/JavaScript. I haven't had a chance to look through the source to see if this is the case.
igorgue 17y ago