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herbig 13y ago
After having used adblock plus for like the last 2 years, I disabled it the other day and have been amazed at how terrible the Internet is without it.
- dethstar 13y ago
  Whenever I use someone else's computer I'm always amazed and wonder how can they stand it. I have noticed people actually getting frustrated at ads making sounds and what not.
- yeukhon 13y ago
  You should read this: https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers after hearing a talk Robert Hansen gave at AppSec USA, I then realize why adblock plus has been doing a poor job :( it can't stop most of the pop ups and ads anymore.
  - HaEB4zcjbp 13y ago
    It does if you uncheck "Allow some non-intrusive advertising"
  - nullymcnull 13y ago
    I think you misunderstand. AdBlock doesn't force this whitelisting, it merely defaults to using it.
    - yeukhon 13y ago
      Did you just say they default to use the whitelist ad program?
      - nullymcnull 13y ago
        Yes, I believe if you just blindly click through the initial install for the extension, the limited whitelisting (for 'unobtrusive ads') will be in effect. That's the whole idea, isn't it - to whitelist for the majority of users who don't read the fine print or tweak things, while still allowing anyone who cares to shut it off.
- alan_cx 13y ago
  Could not agree more. Its almost frighting. It kinda reminds me, as a long standing Formula 1 fan, of what NASCAR looked like on TV when I first started watching it. It was like being assaulted with brand names. Quite a culture shock. However, these days, I try to be oh so generous and disable the adblock for sites that I, in my "wisdom", want to get the ad revenue. Hell, I'll even click a few if Im feeling especially generous!!!!
- foobarqux 13y ago
  Don't you know it's your solemn duty to brainwash yourself so that others can get paid?
comex 13y ago
Personally, while I'm almost frustrated enough with YouTube ads to use an ad blocker, I'm hesitant to do so because the authors of the videos I watch are often precisely the kind of people I want to support, and I've heard YouTube is hard enough to depend on for income without people blocking ads. I'd love to have an option to directly pay money instead, but I doubt it'll ever happen. Twitch.tv is similar but considerably more annoying - but it provides such an option, and I'm considering buying it, although (unlike YouTube) I probably don't watch enough Twitch videos for it to be worthwhile.
- chii 13y ago
  check out subbable.com , they sure trying to make content the same way npr does. thru donations and funding drives.
- judk 13y ago
  I would guess most full time producers would have swag shops where you can spend money on them.
dredmorbius 13y ago
For people who are missing your second link: youtube-dl is a video downloader, and it works on far, far more than just YouTube. The benefits: you download videos at your discretion and preference. You can archive them if you want (I do this largely for documentary / lecture videos), and play them back locally using the video player of your preference. I generally prefer either mplayer or xine, both offer keyboard controls over playback, vastly better rewind / forward control than YouTube's default player (or anyone else's for that matter), consistent video controls for all videos, and the ability to speed up (I run most straight presentation videos at 120 - 160% of normal) or slow down (things going boom) videos as desired. Embedded players are OK for getting a quick sample of something or very brief content, but not for serious viewing.
- gizmo686 13y ago
  Also, using clive, I noticed that I get much more consistent download speed.
- chaz 13y ago
  FF/RW problems may be your ISP and not YT. TWC is notorious for routing YT through its own servers and it's terrible; others may be just as bad. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276772
  - dredmorbius 13y ago
    Not using TWC. It could be my ISP's peers, but my ISP itself is both rather competent and very network neutral.
cupcake-unicorn 13y ago
Give AdblockEdge a try. It's a true open source clean fork of AdblockPlus, and it doesn't have the "acceptable ads" whitelisted, which are only whitelisted in some cases because Google/etc. paid them off.
- dgesang 13y ago
  Agreed, "Adblock Edge" is the way to go. Original "Adbock Plus" gets money from Google to not filter their ads: Google has tried to fight back against Adblock, partly by paying Adblock to whitelist some of their ads. Google’s business model is all about ads but as awareness of Adblock grows it’s increasingly difficult to get ads in front of online users. src: http://socialtimes.com/youtube-pre-roll-ads-drive-users-install-adblocker_b137843 http://socialtimes.com/youtube-pre-roll-ads-drive-users-inst... Also: https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers
- fhd2 13y ago
  I work on Adblock Plus and would like to clarify some things: 1. Adblock Plus is fully open source, has always been, will always be. Everything else we do is open source too, including our infrastructure and backend systems. (https://hg.adblockplus.org/ https://hg.adblockplus.org/) 2. Adblock Edge is an unmaintained (edit: Not true, there've been some changes lately) fork of an old Adblock Plus version, with the Acceptable Ads feature removed. 3. Acceptable Ads are an opt-out feature which whitelists ads that comply with the Acceptable Ads criteria. Large sites have to support the project in return, but there's no way around the criteria. (https://adblockplus.org/en/about https://adblockplus.org/en/about) As an aside, we're currently looking into a way of making it easy for users to whitelist ads on YouTube channels they like automatically. Pre-roll video ads will never be acceptable and hence never will be whitelisted for all users by default, but many people still want to support individual YouTubers.
  - spyder 13y ago
    I don't think it's fair to say that Adblock Edge is unmaintained when it has more recent updates than Adblock Plus: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/versions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/versions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/...

After having used adblock plus for like the last 2 years, I disabled it the other day and have been amazed at how terrible the Internet is without it.

dethstar 13y ago
Whenever I use someone else's computer I'm always amazed and wonder how can they stand it. I have noticed people actually getting frustrated at ads making sounds and what not.
yeukhon 13y ago
You should read this: https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers after hearing a talk Robert Hansen gave at AppSec USA, I then realize why adblock plus has been doing a poor job :( it can't stop most of the pop ups and ads anymore.
- HaEB4zcjbp 13y ago
  It does if you uncheck "Allow some non-intrusive advertising"
- nullymcnull 13y ago
  I think you misunderstand. AdBlock doesn't force this whitelisting, it merely defaults to using it.
  - yeukhon 13y ago
    Did you just say they default to use the whitelist ad program?
    - nullymcnull 13y ago
      Yes, I believe if you just blindly click through the initial install for the extension, the limited whitelisting (for 'unobtrusive ads') will be in effect. That's the whole idea, isn't it - to whitelist for the majority of users who don't read the fine print or tweak things, while still allowing anyone who cares to shut it off.
alan_cx 13y ago
Could not agree more. Its almost frighting. It kinda reminds me, as a long standing Formula 1 fan, of what NASCAR looked like on TV when I first started watching it. It was like being assaulted with brand names. Quite a culture shock. However, these days, I try to be oh so generous and disable the adblock for sites that I, in my "wisdom", want to get the ad revenue. Hell, I'll even click a few if Im feeling especially generous!!!!
foobarqux 13y ago
Don't you know it's your solemn duty to brainwash yourself so that others can get paid?

comex 13y ago

Personally, while I'm almost frustrated enough with YouTube ads to use an ad blocker, I'm hesitant to do so because the authors of the videos I watch are often precisely the kind of people I want to support, and I've heard YouTube is hard enough to depend on for income without people blocking ads. I'd love to have an option to directly pay money instead, but I doubt it'll ever happen. Twitch.tv is similar but considerably more annoying - but it provides such an option, and I'm considering buying it, although (unlike YouTube) I probably don't watch enough Twitch videos for it to be worthwhile.

chii 13y ago
check out subbable.com , they sure trying to make content the same way npr does. thru donations and funding drives.
judk 13y ago
I would guess most full time producers would have swag shops where you can spend money on them.

dredmorbius 13y ago

For people who are missing your second link: youtube-dl is a video downloader, and it works on far, far more than just YouTube. The benefits: you download videos at your discretion and preference. You can archive them if you want (I do this largely for documentary / lecture videos), and play them back locally using the video player of your preference. I generally prefer either mplayer or xine, both offer keyboard controls over playback, vastly better rewind / forward control than YouTube's default player (or anyone else's for that matter), consistent video controls for all videos, and the ability to speed up (I run most straight presentation videos at 120 - 160% of normal) or slow down (things going boom) videos as desired. Embedded players are OK for getting a quick sample of something or very brief content, but not for serious viewing.

gizmo686 13y ago
Also, using clive, I noticed that I get much more consistent download speed.
chaz 13y ago
FF/RW problems may be your ISP and not YT. TWC is notorious for routing YT through its own servers and it's terrible; others may be just as bad. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276772
- dredmorbius 13y ago
  Not using TWC. It could be my ISP's peers, but my ISP itself is both rather competent and very network neutral.

cupcake-unicorn 13y ago

Give AdblockEdge a try. It's a true open source clean fork of AdblockPlus, and it doesn't have the "acceptable ads" whitelisted, which are only whitelisted in some cases because Google/etc. paid them off.

dgesang 13y ago
Agreed, "Adblock Edge" is the way to go. Original "Adbock Plus" gets money from Google to not filter their ads: Google has tried to fight back against Adblock, partly by paying Adblock to whitelist some of their ads. Google’s business model is all about ads but as awareness of Adblock grows it’s increasingly difficult to get ads in front of online users. src: http://socialtimes.com/youtube-pre-roll-ads-drive-users-install-adblocker_b137843 http://socialtimes.com/youtube-pre-roll-ads-drive-users-inst... Also: https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers
fhd2 13y ago
I work on Adblock Plus and would like to clarify some things: 1. Adblock Plus is fully open source, has always been, will always be. Everything else we do is open source too, including our infrastructure and backend systems. (https://hg.adblockplus.org/ https://hg.adblockplus.org/) 2. Adblock Edge is an unmaintained (edit: Not true, there've been some changes lately) fork of an old Adblock Plus version, with the Acceptable Ads feature removed. 3. Acceptable Ads are an opt-out feature which whitelists ads that comply with the Acceptable Ads criteria. Large sites have to support the project in return, but there's no way around the criteria. (https://adblockplus.org/en/about https://adblockplus.org/en/about) As an aside, we're currently looking into a way of making it easy for users to whitelist ads on YouTube channels they like automatically. Pre-roll video ads will never be acceptable and hence never will be whitelisted for all users by default, but many people still want to support individual YouTubers.
- spyder 13y ago
  I don't think it's fair to say that Adblock Edge is unmaintained when it has more recent updates than Adblock Plus: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/versions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/versions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/...