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Considering how cheap consumer electronics and entertainment are these days, I'm genuinely concerned that this 'minimum income' would be high enough to permit m

Considering how cheap consumer electronics and entertainment are these days, I'm genuinely concerned that this 'minimum income' would be high enough to permit many to live in perpetual 'childhood' - cheap food, cheap entertainment.

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Daishiman 13y ago
I fail to see the problem when humanity reaps the rewards of automation.
mcherm 13y ago
Why does this concern you? To me, that sounds like hearing someone saying "I'm genuinely concerned that people will start giving their kids strange-sounding names." Sure, it's a bit odd, but so what... it's not affecting you. Maybe you are concerned that they will fail to contribute to the economy, thus dragging it down, but if so then I wonder what you think of our current economic system which leaves a noticeable percentage of people unemployed. Maybe you are motivated by the classic Protestant work ethic and think failing to work hard is a sin, but if so I'm not sure why THIS sin is one you need to worry about in others rather than in yourself. And at this point I should stop knocking down straw men, and wait to hear why this actually concerns you.
- ahomescu1 13y ago
  > Why does this concern you? To me, that sounds like hearing someone saying "I'm genuinely concerned that people will start giving their kids strange-sounding names." Sure, it's a bit odd, but so what... it's not affecting you. It concerns all taxpayers, since they're the ones paying the bill for basic income.
- consonants 13y ago
  This is a salient manifestation of the patronizing view we hold when it is even suggested that we are in some way beholden to someone else. "If they're getting MY pennies, well then they should be micromanaged to fit my stringent moral standards." I think it's a kneejerk reaction in response to being unable to hold a certain population of society as full adults like themselves, and this time it really shined through. If you blank out the subject involved in these posts and fill them with [social boogie man du jour] its horrifically on point with the argument Grandpa will be using to lambast them this Thanksgiving.

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Daishiman 13y ago

I fail to see the problem when humanity reaps the rewards of automation.

mcherm 13y ago

Why does this concern you? To me, that sounds like hearing someone saying "I'm genuinely concerned that people will start giving their kids strange-sounding names." Sure, it's a bit odd, but so what... it's not affecting you. Maybe you are concerned that they will fail to contribute to the economy, thus dragging it down, but if so then I wonder what you think of our current economic system which leaves a noticeable percentage of people unemployed. Maybe you are motivated by the classic Protestant work ethic and think failing to work hard is a sin, but if so I'm not sure why THIS sin is one you need to worry about in others rather than in yourself. And at this point I should stop knocking down straw men, and wait to hear why this actually concerns you.

ahomescu1 13y ago
> Why does this concern you? To me, that sounds like hearing someone saying "I'm genuinely concerned that people will start giving their kids strange-sounding names." Sure, it's a bit odd, but so what... it's not affecting you. It concerns all taxpayers, since they're the ones paying the bill for basic income.
consonants 13y ago
This is a salient manifestation of the patronizing view we hold when it is even suggested that we are in some way beholden to someone else. "If they're getting MY pennies, well then they should be micromanaged to fit my stringent moral standards." I think it's a kneejerk reaction in response to being unable to hold a certain population of society as full adults like themselves, and this time it really shined through. If you blank out the subject involved in these posts and fill them with [social boogie man du jour] its horrifically on point with the argument Grandpa will be using to lambast them this Thanksgiving.