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So this is an Android fork with UI improvements?

by amalag 13y ago

lewispollard 13y ago
Looks like it isn't a direct Android fork but does use the Android app runtime.
robin_reala 13y ago
No, this is the current state of Nokia’s Meego OS.
conexions 13y ago
Jolla is based on what was left of Nokia's Maemo/Meego.
LrQSs8Dq 13y ago
It's a phone from a small finnish company with a new (as in not MS, Google or Apple) operating system, that happens to have an Android compatibility layer, so you can run native Sailfish apps and Android apps. If you happen to have heard of the N900, it's the team who made that one. They founded their own company after Nokia sold its soul to MS.
- blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
  Nokia had a soul? It was a corporation.
  - agilebyte 13y ago
    Corporate social responsibility could be thought of as (a part of) a soul of a company. http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/people-and-planet/strategy/reports/sustainability-reports/ http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/people-and-planet/st...
    - blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
      It's not a person. Microsoft has statements like that. Why don't they have a soul? I'm actually not trying to be flippant. I think that people need to question their assumptions about "companies as people"...Nokia didn't "have a soul". It was a business. The fact that people think it did reflects more on their marketing than anything else.
      - agilebyte 13y ago
        Have you seen Hank Poulsen's documentary about precious materials that make it into mobiles? He referred to Nokia as a company that does not do bad and is responsible. If only to force/guilt-trip companies to do better and be responsible to their workforce, customers, supply chain, country etc., I am going to talk about companies and their soul. http://bloodinthemobile.org/ http://bloodinthemobile.org/
        blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
        OK. Fair enough. That doesn't not make Nokia a sentient entity with "a soul". It's a business that has a fair degree of social responsibility in its business plans. My point with this isn't to be pedantic...I'm trying to say that referring to them in this way plays into the larger picture where it is in all businesses interest to have us refer to them as a person. They aren't.
    - freehunter 13y ago
      If sustainability and social responsibility reports are what make up (a part of) the soul of a company, Nokia is in good hands. http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/reporting/ http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/re...
- blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
  You know, I wasn't trying to be a troll. Nokia is a large business that makes money just like other businesses. I think its strange to generalize them the same way that we do people...
gmuslera 13y ago
Is as much android as BB10, in fact have a lot in common with Blackberry 10 like the user interface or being based on QT/QML for native apps. If you want, is a maemo/meego fork, with a compatibility layer to run Android apps, and won't be surprised if it runs also Firefox OS, Tizen and Ubuntu Touch apps in some moment.
Zigurd 13y ago
No, it is a Mer-derived Linux with Qt as the UI toolkit. The OS is called Sailfish. The Android app capability comes from an Android runtime. I have not tried it myself but the compatibility layer could come from Myriad's "Turbo Dalvik," which is something I heard rumored some time ago, or Jolla might have done it themselves.

So this is an Android fork with UI improvements?

by amalag 13y ago

So this is an Android fork with UI improvements?

lewispollard 13y ago

Looks like it isn't a direct Android fork but does use the Android app runtime.

robin_reala 13y ago

No, this is the current state of Nokia’s Meego OS.

conexions 13y ago

Jolla is based on what was left of Nokia's Maemo/Meego.

LrQSs8Dq 13y ago

It's a phone from a small finnish company with a new (as in not MS, Google or Apple) operating system, that happens to have an Android compatibility layer, so you can run native Sailfish apps and Android apps. If you happen to have heard of the N900, it's the team who made that one. They founded their own company after Nokia sold its soul to MS.

blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
Nokia had a soul? It was a corporation.
- agilebyte 13y ago
  Corporate social responsibility could be thought of as (a part of) a soul of a company. http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/people-and-planet/strategy/reports/sustainability-reports/ http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/people-and-planet/st...
  - blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
    It's not a person. Microsoft has statements like that. Why don't they have a soul? I'm actually not trying to be flippant. I think that people need to question their assumptions about "companies as people"...Nokia didn't "have a soul". It was a business. The fact that people think it did reflects more on their marketing than anything else.
    - agilebyte 13y ago
      Have you seen Hank Poulsen's documentary about precious materials that make it into mobiles? He referred to Nokia as a company that does not do bad and is responsible. If only to force/guilt-trip companies to do better and be responsible to their workforce, customers, supply chain, country etc., I am going to talk about companies and their soul. http://bloodinthemobile.org/ http://bloodinthemobile.org/
      - blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
        OK. Fair enough. That doesn't not make Nokia a sentient entity with "a soul". It's a business that has a fair degree of social responsibility in its business plans. My point with this isn't to be pedantic...I'm trying to say that referring to them in this way plays into the larger picture where it is in all businesses interest to have us refer to them as a person. They aren't.
  - freehunter 13y ago
    If sustainability and social responsibility reports are what make up (a part of) the soul of a company, Nokia is in good hands. http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/reporting/ http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/re...
blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
You know, I wasn't trying to be a troll. Nokia is a large business that makes money just like other businesses. I think its strange to generalize them the same way that we do people...

gmuslera 13y ago

Is as much android as BB10, in fact have a lot in common with Blackberry 10 like the user interface or being based on QT/QML for native apps. If you want, is a maemo/meego fork, with a compatibility layer to run Android apps, and won't be surprised if it runs also Firefox OS, Tizen and Ubuntu Touch apps in some moment.

Zigurd 13y ago

No, it is a Mer-derived Linux with Qt as the UI toolkit. The OS is called Sailfish. The Android app capability comes from an Android runtime. I have not tried it myself but the compatibility layer could come from Myriad's "Turbo Dalvik," which is something I heard rumored some time ago, or Jolla might have done it themselves.