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Time POY: Snowden's 200,000+ votes go missing, now behind Miley Cyrus
- onion2k 13y agoThis is about as clear a sign that Time magazine has become irrelevant as you could ever wish for.
- adestefan 13y agoIt's a clear sign that Internet polls are as irrelevant as you could ever wish for.
- jaachan 13y agoMaybe they cleaned up a bunch of 'spam' votes?
- yebyen 13y agoThis is the dumbest way to present a poll I have ever seen! There are 44 choices but you can either vote for "Miley Cyrus vs Jimmy Fallon" or click next 34 times and vote for Edward Snowden. I'll give you a hint since the servers seem to be overloaded and right now I can't even vote for Snowden: http://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-person-of-the-year/slide/{persons-name}/ http://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-... where persons-name is the name of the person you wanted to vote for. You need to prove your identity with Twitter or Facebook. I have no idea if this is new or if it's how the poll has always been run, but the voting is open 'til Dec 4. I'm afraid if I direct link, they're just going to see it as a voting ring and disqualify all of your votes. If you can even get the page to load. I am currently still waiting.
- Tobu 13y agohttp://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-person-of-the-year/slide/all/ http://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-... has the links.
- antsar 13y agoNot only prove your identity, but also fork over your friends list. http://i.imgur.com/ATUOa9T.png http://i.imgur.com/ATUOa9T.png
- kernel_sanders 13y agoThis is hilarious. I voted yesterday and Snowden had 99% of the vote. He deserves to win. Someone should conduct a real, independent poll an award a POY award from the Internets.
- showmerunner 13y agoFor what this source is worth. They are claiming the poll is being hacked. http://www.eonline.com/news/485526/miley-cyrus-leads-time-s-2013-person-of-the-year-poll-but-there-s-a-catch http://www.eonline.com/news/485526/miley-cyrus-leads-time-s-...
- twilson 13y agoHoly crap ! I clicked the link and for a moment thought I'd been click-jacked to rate my camel toe. That should have an NSFW on it for anyone sensitive or with work colleagues around.
- danso 13y agoPSA everyone: TIME Magazine's POY online technology has always been a POS, and TIME Magazine, not doing quite so well in the financials as the years go on, has likely done little to correct that. From last year: How 4Chan Made Kim Jong Un Time Readers' Person of the Year http://gizmodo.com/5968230/how-4chan-made-kim-jong-un-time-readers-man-of-the-year http://gizmodo.com/5968230/how-4chan-made-kim-jong-un-time-r... Time for a overused saying: Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence.
- tokenizer 13y agoThat saying leaves out one important piece of information from an ealier saying that it was influenced by: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but __don't rule out malice__" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor#Similar_quotations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor#Similar_quotatio...
- prateek_mir 13y agomore of a gimmick, The results will be completely different, ultimately the editors will decide.. clever way to generate hits :/
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- BenjaminN 13y agoWhy is Bashar Al-Assad on this list?
- yebyen 13y agoReading about the Time POY poll a little bit, it's supposed to be the person who has influenced the media the most. Adolf Hitler won the top slot once.
- jevinskie 13y agoThe POY is for recognizing people of great impact, not for endorsing their position. Hitler was POY at one point.
- officemonkey 13y agoBashar is no Hitler.
- hudibras 13y agoAnd Stalin won it twice.
- Glyptodon 13y agoPretty clear it's being hacked, especially when their site's been completely buggy for me every time I've tried to vote.
- DanBC 13y agoTime is the same poll that was hacked to allow Moot to win, and for the names of the top of the list to read MARBLE CAKE ALSO THE GAME. Fixing the places of the top 21 people seems like an exploitable poll. I don't know how much has improved since then.
- ivarious 13y agoIt wasn't hacked, just gamed.
- arbitrage 13y agoDepends on the meaning of the work hack. A clever prank? I think it counts.
- halviti 13y agoYou can't see the difference between ballot stuffing and vote rigging? Ballot stuffing can be done by anyone with motivation. Vote Rigging (e.g. - deleting votes) can only be done by the people running the system.
- DanBC 13y agoYou can't see the difference between vote rigging and fixing gamed votes?
- stormcrowsx 13y agoI find it hard to believe anyone really thinks Miley Cyrus should be Person of the Year.
- uptown 13y agoOnline polls are dumb, but here's some background on the current one: http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-cyrus-rigged/ http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-c...
- stelonix 13y agoIt's pretty saddening that some random programmer is going to let his own ego kill the chance to make a statement (yes, I know you personally know POY means nothing. The masses don't, move on.) about privacy and surveillance, all "for the lulz".
- dpina 13y agoWish they went for something else that wouldn't be easily mistaken for a genuine result. It could even encourage another pop singer next year to do a similar stunt or make this bizarre dancing look cool for young people.
- tehwebguy 13y ago- Yesterday AM you could auth in with Twitter or Facebook and vote without posting. - Yesterday PM Twitter was no longer an option. - Today AM Twitter is an option but not for auth, now it opens up an "intent" page with a pre-filled tweet. My guess is that a) it didn't go viral enough without forcing a tweet, b) Twitter was easier to fake or c) the Twitter app got blacklisted for a high number of "revokes"
- eli 13y agoIt's hard to overstate how unimportant this is. A non-binding online poll to help pick who will be on the cover of a dying news magazine. Notable recent winners include Vladimir Putin and, uh, "you" as well as "A Protestor".
- waylandsmithers 13y ago| Notable previous winners include Vladimir Putin and, uh, "you" and "A Protestor". Don't forget Hitler!
- sparkie 13y agoAnd Stalin, twice. And G.Bush Jr, twice. And Obama, twice. (In fact, you'd be pressed to fill more than one hand counting the pleasant people on the list) They claim it's the "most influential person, for better or worse", but don't admit that's as long as the person did not really upset the status quo. The idea that Snowden might be Time POY is laughable. The "trolls" know this, which is why they make a mockery of the poll each year.
- samograd 13y agoObamba...isn't he that guy that won the Nobel Peace Prize?
- eli 13y agoActually I think there's a chance they do pick Snowden, but I don't care because it's really of very little consequence. I'm sure Time cares much more about selling magazines than maintaining the political status quo.
- ck2 13y agoLike Time magazine has any relevance left today? (Did it ever?)
- scrabble 13y agoI know that Miley Cyrus is definitely not person of the year. But if she were to win, that would be hilarious. I can't imagine a single person taking it seriously or respecting the result.
- matthewnolandev 13y ago1. Is an anti Snowden old media conspiracy. (isn't everything?). 2. If you want a real conspiracy, it looks like the major banks were conspiring with the FBI to assassinate Occupy Wall St leader via sniper. http://www.justiceonline.org/commentary/fbi-files-ows.html http://www.justiceonline.org/commentary/fbi-files-ows.html 3. Time still matters. The old and ignorant still turn to it for "news". 4. If you ever thought Snowden would beat Miley Cyrus, you obviously don't know much about America.
- balabaster 13y agoI love how people who don't have Facebook are excluded from voting. Not that I care, but there's no way Edward Snowden should suffer the indignity of appearing in the same list as Miley Cyrus for anything... and to especially lose to her?
- balabaster 13y agoIt's almost worth creating a Facebook account just to bring justice to this... and then deleting it.
- mmphosis 13y agoThis is exactly my process for using Facebook.
- goldvine 13y agoGood luck deleting it.
- balabaster 13y agoI know :-/ It's ridiculous, sigh.
- disgruntledphd2 13y agoOnce you delete your account and leave it alone for 90 days, its gone. It will never be linked to you again. Thanks, Irish Data Protection Commissioner!
- samograd 13y agoI think I'm the only person on the Internet that didn't see that Miley Cyrus video.
- samograd 13y agoAnd I'm not the only person on the Internet to know that what Snowden released has been 'known' to the internet community for 20+ years. A release of documents does not consititute proof of what one already knows, because we all knew this type of surveilance was being done on a regular basis BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN DONE[1]. Just because we use wires and bits over pen and paper doesn't mean the governments and people in control don't want to have as much information about who they are 'controlling' as they can: Don't try to tell me that some power can corrupt a person You haven't had enough to know what its like[2] Read some (good) history sometimes too see more startling revelations of the 'unthinkable' things your governments and controllers might be doing[3][4]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_room http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_room for an example. [2] http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nineinchnails/capitalg.html http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nineinchnails/capitalg.html [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People%27s_History_of_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People%27s_History_of_the_Uni... [4] http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/subjects/search/?query=history http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/subjects/search/?query=histo...
- veganarchocap 13y agoIs this some sort of cruel nightmare? This is everything that's wrong with the world. Miley Cyrus essentially wore not very much on live TV and everyone went partially insane for 6 months. Snowden revealed a tyrannical regime to the world, risking his own freedom, so that we could take action and make the world a better place... yet here we are. The latter is regarded as less important, less of a standpoint in human history than some meaningless celebs rear end.
- sard420 13y agoIt is now, that's how your supposed to feel. History will tell a very different story. Miley will be just another singer/actress.
- fallinghawks 13y agoMiley is just another singer/actress, and it appalls me to think she's even being considered. It says this country really has turned into "Idiocracy."
- coldcode 13y agoI think we should hack it to make Miley Cyrus win with 100% of the votes. Just to make fun of the irrelevant.
- sunseb 13y agoMiley Cyrus : a degenerated girl who can't sing without auto-tune.
- woud420 13y agoBut.. but... She went half naked on TV and licked a wrecking ball in her video. How artistic.
- lbebber 13y agoMan, Miley Cyrus just being present on this list already discredits it completely.
- notdrunkatall 13y agoFuck Time Magazine.
- MatthiasP 13y agoI remember when Julian Assange won that poll some time ago. To no one's surprise TIME didn't give him the title but as usual to some mainstream politics lackey.
- wehadfun 13y agoI went through this list: CEO of Yahoo? (For making some teenager a millionaire) No CEO of Twitter? (For taking the company public) No CEO of Amazon? (For buying a newspaper) Maybe CEO of Google? (Google does amazing things every day) Maybe Pope? (I don't know enough about what he has done) Maybe Person in charge of Obamacare.com? Hell no Lebron James? Hell no Angolena Jolie? Hell no Hanna Montana? Hell no Next in line to run Fed? No Putin? (He is Snowdensitting, threw a big FU to the #1 democracy) Maybe Obama? (Coverage for those with pre-existing conditions,forcing insurance companies to use premiums to pay for healthcare) Sure Snowden? (Giving up freedom, family, to expose government missdeesds at 30) Sure Mr. Syria? No Everyone else? What did yall do?
- eccp 13y agoI'm dissapointed. I thought I would find a comment about moot on this post or at least a reference to this image ("trolling is a art"): http://i.imgur.com/iwmk2vn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iwmk2vn.jpg