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RubyMine 6.0 Released

59 points by rdemmer 13y ago

chillax 13y ago
Some more details on what's new here: http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/whatsnew/index.html http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/whatsnew/index.html
jph 13y ago
Congratulations! RubyMine is improving significantly each release. I'm especially thankful for the support of leading-edge Ruby, Rails, and now Stylus too.
arikrak 13y ago
Cool. Jetbrains ran their big discount less than a year ago, so I'm still able to upgrade for free.
- TylerE 13y ago
  They generally only offer free upgrades for 90 days, if that.
  - LordIllidan 13y ago
    I bought PhpStorm, RubyMine, and Appcode in the Dec 21 sale of 2012, all 3 of them have been upgraded to the latest versions (just updated RubyMine today)
    - bdcravens 13y ago
      I bought it at the same time, and can confirm that I was able to update to 6.0.
  - cothomps 13y ago
    The personal licenses (at least) have migrated to a subscription model. I bought RubyMine last Dec as part of their end of the world sale and can upgrade until April 12th.
    - TylerE 13y ago
      Really? Am I not looking in the right place? I bought during the sale and they want $99 from me. Of course, I bought the full-blown IDEA, and not one of the derivatives.
      - jasonlotito 13y ago
        IntelliJ IDEA is normally $199. The upgrade subscription fee is $99 a year. It's been this way for a long time now, and hasn't changed.
      - krisdol 13y ago
        I believe that is the price if you've previously had a license that is now expired or about to expire. If a new version is released within the year of your subscription, you can upgrade for free. The price is lower for upgrades so that you don't re-pay the full cost of the product every year.
    - tuananh 13y ago
      weird huh!? I asked them on Twitter regarding IntelliJ IDEA 13 and I got this[1] > Upgrade is free personal licenses bought after October, 30, 2013. [1]: https://twitter.com/andrey_cheptsov/status/398103017976639488 https://twitter.com/andrey_cheptsov/status/39810301797663948...
      - TylerE 13y ago
        Yes, that's exactly what I'm running into also.
  - jasonlotito 13y ago
    That's not true. You get free upgrades for an entire year after making a purchase. It's been that way for many years now, at least as long as I've been purchasing their products.
    - TylerE 13y ago
      Yes, but everything I'd read indicates that is only MINOR updates (e.g. 1.x), not major updates (2.0)
      - hhariri 13y ago
        No. Again, that's not entirely correct. Per my previous reply: - If you purchased a product that was not bound to subscription model, you got ALL minor updates independently of the time passed. - If you purchased a product bound to subscription, you get 1 year free upgrades, both major and minor.
  - hhariri 13y ago
    That's actually not accurate. For non-subscription based products we offer all minor upgrades, irrelevant of the days passed since purchase. For subscription-based (Which many are now) we offer 1 year free upgrades to both major and minor.
jdotjdot 13y ago
Are all of the features of RubyMine included in IntelliJ IDEA? I've never really been fully clear on that, and I love PyCharm--but given that I use Python, Javascript, Ruby, etc., I'd rather just get the one product than need PyCharm and WebStorm AND RubyMine.
- rdemmer 13y ago
  Let me try and answer this for you. All functionality from the mentioned products would be available through IntelliJ IDEA plugins, however some features (really few non-essential) may be temporarily unavailable due to newer or older versions of the IntelliJ Platform. It is worth noting that the plug-ins are not sim-shipped though, so there is some delay. Let me address now your specific situation as described above. IntelliJ IDEA 13 will be released very soon. It will include the features from the recently released "smaller IDEs." Another point is that you do not need WebStorm. All WebStorm features are available in PyCharm and RubyMine or can be installed as plugins. Again, the plugins are not sim-shipped and will be available sometime after IntelliJ IDEA release. To recap: IntelliJ + plugins cover all functionality that all our IDEs provide. On the other hand, dedicated IDEs are convenient being more lightweight, offering a simpler UI and faster performance.
barrkel 13y ago
I started using emacs about 2 months ago (about 20 years too late, alas), and it has now completely replaced my usage of RubyMine. helm-git-grep, projectile-find-file with helm completion, and a keyboard-controlled split-window layout have proven much better in practice for code navigation. The sheer ease with which new editor functionality can be prototyped and implemented is hard to beat.
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chrisblackwell 13y ago
RubyMine is going to get some more consideration as we haven't seen a lot of movement from Sublime Text 3 in a while. Rapid developer and continuous releases like this give me real confidence in the editor (IDE).
matthuggins 13y ago
Been using RubyMine for a few years now and am convinced it's the best editor for Ruby development (at least for me). It just offers too many features (e.g.: built-in debugging, method click-through) that users of vim, emacs, etc. are missing out on.
- veidr 13y ago
  I totally agree; RubyMine is my 'home base' when working on Rails apps, because its debugger beats anything I've seen for ruby/rails especially, easy to run server/tests/console under any environment, the best code completion for ruby I've seen, tons of smart navigation options, refactoring right-click 'run this test/spec' feature, etc etc. I still use ST3, TM2, and from time to time other editors whenever I want... but RubyMine, being a complete IDE, does so much more than those tools. Managing your product in RubyMine doesn't preclude using other editors alongside it for more intensive code editing sessions, if desired.
  - veidr 13y ago
    I forgot to add why you would want to do that: because when judged just on the merits of being a well-behaved app that adheres to OS X conventions, it is awfully, terribly, horribly bad (as are most Java GUI apps). Most of its menus are not really OS X menus at all, they are transient floating windows with wrong behavior. It doesn't have normal windows -- some can only be floating windows, but they float over some windows and not others. You can spend hours tweaking the keyboard shortcuts, but you will never get them quite sane. Text drag and drop isn't right. Tools like Typinator and multi-clipboard managers don't tend to work well with it. It doesn't interact with the system pasteboard well. In short, as a Mac app, it's totally gross. But as an IDE, it is very powerful. Using it is a pain if you really want a nice Mac tool, but if you think about it the same way as you think about logging into a remote Linux server to do some work, or doing some task in Windows in VMWare Fusion, it's not that bad. The area where is falls short the most is the actual editing of code, because (at least for me) that is a long, iterative task, where the OS conventions and staying true to the standard ways of doing things are most important.
- barrkel 13y ago
mark_l_watson 13y ago
This is a good upgrade - I installed it an hour ago after getting an email from JetBrains (because I have a subscription). I like how the I is cleaner/sparser, with the hot button in the lower left to make less often used tools visible.
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59 points by rdemmer 13y ago

Some more details on what's new here: http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/whatsnew/index.html http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/whatsnew/index.html

jph 13y ago

Congratulations! RubyMine is improving significantly each release. I'm especially thankful for the support of leading-edge Ruby, Rails, and now Stylus too.

arikrak 13y ago

Cool. Jetbrains ran their big discount less than a year ago, so I'm still able to upgrade for free.

TylerE 13y ago
They generally only offer free upgrades for 90 days, if that.
- LordIllidan 13y ago
  I bought PhpStorm, RubyMine, and Appcode in the Dec 21 sale of 2012, all 3 of them have been upgraded to the latest versions (just updated RubyMine today)
  - bdcravens 13y ago
    I bought it at the same time, and can confirm that I was able to update to 6.0.
- cothomps 13y ago
  The personal licenses (at least) have migrated to a subscription model. I bought RubyMine last Dec as part of their end of the world sale and can upgrade until April 12th.
  - TylerE 13y ago
    Really? Am I not looking in the right place? I bought during the sale and they want $99 from me. Of course, I bought the full-blown IDEA, and not one of the derivatives.
    - jasonlotito 13y ago
      IntelliJ IDEA is normally $199. The upgrade subscription fee is $99 a year. It's been this way for a long time now, and hasn't changed.
    - krisdol 13y ago
      I believe that is the price if you've previously had a license that is now expired or about to expire. If a new version is released within the year of your subscription, you can upgrade for free. The price is lower for upgrades so that you don't re-pay the full cost of the product every year.
  - tuananh 13y ago
    weird huh!? I asked them on Twitter regarding IntelliJ IDEA 13 and I got this[1] > Upgrade is free personal licenses bought after October, 30, 2013. [1]: https://twitter.com/andrey_cheptsov/status/398103017976639488 https://twitter.com/andrey_cheptsov/status/39810301797663948...
    - TylerE 13y ago
      Yes, that's exactly what I'm running into also.
- jasonlotito 13y ago
  That's not true. You get free upgrades for an entire year after making a purchase. It's been that way for many years now, at least as long as I've been purchasing their products.
  - TylerE 13y ago
    Yes, but everything I'd read indicates that is only MINOR updates (e.g. 1.x), not major updates (2.0)
    - hhariri 13y ago
      No. Again, that's not entirely correct. Per my previous reply: - If you purchased a product that was not bound to subscription model, you got ALL minor updates independently of the time passed. - If you purchased a product bound to subscription, you get 1 year free upgrades, both major and minor.
- hhariri 13y ago
  That's actually not accurate. For non-subscription based products we offer all minor upgrades, irrelevant of the days passed since purchase. For subscription-based (Which many are now) we offer 1 year free upgrades to both major and minor.

jdotjdot 13y ago

Are all of the features of RubyMine included in IntelliJ IDEA? I've never really been fully clear on that, and I love PyCharm--but given that I use Python, Javascript, Ruby, etc., I'd rather just get the one product than need PyCharm and WebStorm AND RubyMine.

rdemmer 13y ago
Let me try and answer this for you. All functionality from the mentioned products would be available through IntelliJ IDEA plugins, however some features (really few non-essential) may be temporarily unavailable due to newer or older versions of the IntelliJ Platform. It is worth noting that the plug-ins are not sim-shipped though, so there is some delay. Let me address now your specific situation as described above. IntelliJ IDEA 13 will be released very soon. It will include the features from the recently released "smaller IDEs." Another point is that you do not need WebStorm. All WebStorm features are available in PyCharm and RubyMine or can be installed as plugins. Again, the plugins are not sim-shipped and will be available sometime after IntelliJ IDEA release. To recap: IntelliJ + plugins cover all functionality that all our IDEs provide. On the other hand, dedicated IDEs are convenient being more lightweight, offering a simpler UI and faster performance.

barrkel 13y ago

I started using emacs about 2 months ago (about 20 years too late, alas), and it has now completely replaced my usage of RubyMine. helm-git-grep, projectile-find-file with helm completion, and a keyboard-controlled split-window layout have proven much better in practice for code navigation. The sheer ease with which new editor functionality can be prototyped and implemented is hard to beat.

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chrisblackwell 13y ago

RubyMine is going to get some more consideration as we haven't seen a lot of movement from Sublime Text 3 in a while. Rapid developer and continuous releases like this give me real confidence in the editor (IDE).

matthuggins 13y ago

Been using RubyMine for a few years now and am convinced it's the best editor for Ruby development (at least for me). It just offers too many features (e.g.: built-in debugging, method click-through) that users of vim, emacs, etc. are missing out on.

veidr 13y ago
I totally agree; RubyMine is my 'home base' when working on Rails apps, because its debugger beats anything I've seen for ruby/rails especially, easy to run server/tests/console under any environment, the best code completion for ruby I've seen, tons of smart navigation options, refactoring right-click 'run this test/spec' feature, etc etc. I still use ST3, TM2, and from time to time other editors whenever I want... but RubyMine, being a complete IDE, does so much more than those tools. Managing your product in RubyMine doesn't preclude using other editors alongside it for more intensive code editing sessions, if desired.
- veidr 13y ago
  I forgot to add why you would want to do that: because when judged just on the merits of being a well-behaved app that adheres to OS X conventions, it is awfully, terribly, horribly bad (as are most Java GUI apps). Most of its menus are not really OS X menus at all, they are transient floating windows with wrong behavior. It doesn't have normal windows -- some can only be floating windows, but they float over some windows and not others. You can spend hours tweaking the keyboard shortcuts, but you will never get them quite sane. Text drag and drop isn't right. Tools like Typinator and multi-clipboard managers don't tend to work well with it. It doesn't interact with the system pasteboard well. In short, as a Mac app, it's totally gross. But as an IDE, it is very powerful. Using it is a pain if you really want a nice Mac tool, but if you think about it the same way as you think about logging into a remote Linux server to do some work, or doing some task in Windows in VMWare Fusion, it's not that bad. The area where is falls short the most is the actual editing of code, because (at least for me) that is a long, iterative task, where the OS conventions and staying true to the standard ways of doing things are most important.
barrkel 13y ago

mark_l_watson 13y ago

This is a good upgrade - I installed it an hour ago after getting an email from JetBrains (because I have a subscription). I like how the I is cleaner/sparser, with the hot button in the lower left to make less often used tools visible.

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