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New Top-Level Domains
- lelandbatey 13y agoLooking at this, I see the reference to a couple of different dates. There's the "Sunrise Open" and the "Sunrise Close" dates, then there's the "General Availability" date. What does each mean?
- tombrossman 13y agoGandi does a pretty good job explaining this [1] as a 'trademark brand protection phase'. Basically, if you have a registered trademark and want to defend it from others registering <YourTrademark>.<NewTLD> your opportunity to do so is during this phase. The rest of us commoners get to by the leftovers starting on the General Availibility date. [1] http://www.gandibar.net/post/2013/10/29/The-launch-of-the-new-gTLDs http://www.gandibar.net/post/2013/10/29/The-launch-of-the-ne...
- lelandbatey 13y agoAh, alright. That explains it, thank you!
- gesman 13y agoWhy waste time with useless and long TLD's and not introduce a single-letter TLD's, such as .a .b .c ...etc ? Or .js - to make Silicon Valley go orgasmic?
- talles 13y agoI love the .today domain. Anyone knows which registrars are supporting these new domains?
- kyriakos 13y agoI am with the impression that they wont be made available to the public - or at least not for a flat fee.
- 0x0 13y agoActually I was of the impression that new gTLDs wouldn't be accepted unless they were generic enough and available to the public. (so no buying ".google")
- eli 13y agoGandi has some listed on the site available for pre-order, but I don't see .today https://www.gandi.net/domain/price/info https://www.gandi.net/domain/price/info
- dcubek 13y agohttp://www.donuts.co/ http://www.donuts.co/ is running it. Most of these have nic.gtld up and running. nic.tattoo is my favourite so far.
- adamb0mb1 13y agoCheck out: http://vps1.dnts.net/tlds/ http://vps1.dnts.net/tlds/ -- this is the timing on most of the domains.
- yeldarb 13y agoDo we know yet how browsers will be treating these tlds? Eg if I type "diamonds" into the Chrome omnibar will it take me to a Google search for "diamonds" or to http://diamonds http://diamonds
- dsl 13y agoICANN made a decision late in the game to not allow "dotless" domains, i.e. making "diamonds" resolve to something the TLD owner decides. This crushed the business model of most of the new TLD operators, so don't expect them to be around in a few years.
- molecule 13y agofollowing up, ICANN's announcement and reasoning: http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-30aug13-en.htm http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-30au...
- sp332 13y agoThe most prominent example is the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) to deliver electronic mail. It requires at least two labels in the FQDN of a mail address. Thus standard-compliant mail servers would reject emails to addresses such as user@brand. Do most mail servers follow this rule?
- nwh 13y agoI remember some ccTLD had A records a while back (bs. was one), but they lacked MX. I think it would just cause lots of form validation errors if that suddenly changed, not to mention the confusion you'd cause with people expecting a suffix. I cause enough issues with not having a ".com" on my email address, people love adding a .com.
- 0x0 13y agoInteresting that the fully-qualified (with a dot suffix) URL http://nic.diamonds./ http://nic.diamonds./ brings up a 404...
- joshmlewis 13y agoIt's interesting to see a lot of the domain endings are longer than the standard domains today. It'll be interesting to see what they do with them. Some of the choices seem a little odd considering the price to pay, such as .bike, .guru, or .tips. I don't like that people (with money) will start buying up these generic top level domains and have complete control over who uses them. I would rather see a non-profit registrar of sorts but I know that would probably never happen.
- yeldarb 13y agoI could see .tips and .gugu could making some sense. eg iphone.tips, php.guru, etc. But .bike is definitely weird.
- DrewRWx 13y agotrek.bike ? Owning the TLD will probably ensure top ranking in that keyword's search results.
- pkfrank 13y agoIt would definitely help, but I don't think it'd be a silver bullet. http://moz.com/search-ranking-factors http://moz.com/search-ranking-factors I'm seeing the domain name considerations well below bigger factors (link juice, page rank, etc.)
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- scottshea 13y agoI am sure someone proposed the .meow or .cat domains. I just wonder how far they got
- benjiweber 13y ago.cat already exists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cat
- signed0 13y agohttp://www.nyan.cat/ http://www.nyan.cat/
- dsl 13y agoYou can see what a huge scam and insider money play this was by just looking at the names of the companies that got these TLDs.
- jamessun 13y agoAgreed. I suspect that many of these LLCs can be traced back to a handful of large companies.
- archQuestions 13y agoIf you're looking for a more open source approach to domain names, check out http://namecoin.info http://namecoin.info and http://dot-bit.org http://dot-bit.org
- lukifer 13y agoI was a little disappointed to learn that NameCoin domains are so cheap (0.001 NMC), and therefore rampant with squatters. I suppose there will always be an incentive to create a market and seek rents no matter what the domain system. Nonetheless, I hope NameCoin or something like it gains greater traction. I found myself wondering the other day how long it will be before we see an attempted disruption of Google by a search crypto-currency.
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- yeldarb 13y agoReally hoping nobody registers ".js" -- would wreak havoc on searches for a lot of common Javascript libraries like "underscore.js" Similarly I could see someone registering the ".html" or ".php" tld and causing some huge issues. Although I must admit, owning the domain "index.html" would endow huge nerd cred.
- jotm 13y agoOh. no - not language specific TLDs! They wanted to introduce them like 7 years ago, and a lot of people agreed that it would just be a detriment to the Internet as we know it (freely accessible and global).
- tcdent 13y agoHow does recognizing global languages as "first class citizens" make the internet less global?
- jotm 13y agoCan you type in these? شبكة (xn--ngbc5azd) – Arabic for "web/network" онлайн (xn--80asehdb) – Cyrillic for "online" сайт (xn--80aswg) – Cyrillic for "site" 游戏(xn--unup4y) – Chinese for "game(s)" Can you eve view them? Yeah, Google will help, but if the trend continues, the Internet will become less global. One language is better in this case. Imagine if programming languages were in different languages with their respective characters - everything would be harder and everyone would have a whole lot to lose.
- tcdent 13y agoAre you advocating that the entire world should speak one language - English? How is typing an Arabic or Cyrillic domain disadvantageous to those that read and write Arabic or Cyrillic? Especially when the resulting site is very likely to contain content in that same language. Your argument seems very self-centered, and quite exaggeratedly so: you'd prefer disadvantaging non-English speakers when accessing content you wouldn't ever consume, simply because you are more comfortable with Latin characters yourself.
- jotm 13y agoOh, not this again. I am not against other languages, people, races, or whatever. It just makes A LOT of logical sense to use one goddamn language online. It's not the offline world, it's been created from scratch, and English is already used in most (all?) programming languages, as well as most of the websites people actually use (although they do use region/country level translation). Why screw that up? It's a bit like if the US let Texas and California use Spanish as the official language, and the other states used English.
- ivthreadp110 13y agoLook at the trends- It's very funny-- the language generator... Almost all these domains are owned by one entity.
- perlpimp 13y agoWell, I wonder how that affects mobile. Since there is a move to mobile app topology of information consumption, wonder if domain names will still be relevant 5 years from now. On the same note why TLDs, not just have a 'name registry'. Seems like technical dictates what is not natural. Why I can't have website name for example "burger" or "pizza" I get that there are designations and control entities. But isn't it a bit contrived? I am not against dot notation but whole synthetic user facing naming system...
- hayksaakian 13y agoyou CAN technically do that in this way if you buy .pizza you could technically host one website at http://www.pizza http://www.pizza
- amybe 13y agoI'm not sure what you're trying to say, but www is just another subdomain. http://www.pizza http://www.pizza is technically no different from http://superawesometasty.pizza http://superawesometasty.pizza.
- bachback 13y agoNo - if pizza is owned by one TLD registrar www.pizza and great.pizza would be two separate subdomains under that TLD. I'm not sure there are limitations to the subdomain under the TLD (to prevent collision with www). Someone can register www under .com and make a www.www.com.
- amybe 13y agoI wasn't saying they were interchangeable, just that on a technical level http://www.pizza http://www.pizza and http://great.pizza http://great.pizza function in exactly the same way, as far as DNS is concerned. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for most browsers, but that's another topic... And I'm sure www is a reserved term under most of the new TLDs. Haven't checked though.
- chrisacky 13y ago22+ of the approved domains from the list of 30 are all signed to a a single startup[0] called Donuts[1]. ( http://www.donuts.co/ http://www.donuts.co/ ) Apparently they raised $100M[2] back in 2012. They have since agreed to distribute these domains through 19 registrars[3] (eNom, Name.com etc)... Looking at their ICANN PIC submission[4] they have registered no fewer than 200-250 LLCs [0] : https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/694 https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applications... [1] : http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Donuts http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Donuts [2] : http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/05/technology/donuts-domains-funding/ http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/05/technology/donuts-domains-fu... [3] : http://www.donuts.co/news/donuts-adds-another-seven-generic-top-level-domains-to-the-internet-signs-19-additional-registrars/ http://www.donuts.co/news/donuts-adds-another-seven-generic-... [4] : https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails:downloadpicposting/694?t:ac=694 https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applications...
- ukandy 13y ago".WINE is perfect for a winery!" What are these guys drinking? I'll give it a miss.
- pkfrank 13y agohttp://www.donuts.co/about/team/ http://www.donuts.co/about/team/ Do a ctrl+f for "ICANN" and you'll see how well-networked the Donuts.co team is. Can't be sure if this is true cronyism, or whether they just really know how to play the game. Not sure it's terribly different either way. --Edit-- per chrisacky's link above (http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/05/technology/donuts-domains-funding/ http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/05/technology/donuts-domains-fu...), it looks like Donuts.co submitted 307 applications at $185k/per, for a total of $56.8 million. That's a hell of a way to earn favors with ICANN while ostensibly just trying to get more picks.
- amerika_blog 13y agoMight as well just start using freetext at this point. Register your search term with Google, then forget about it.
- yogo 13y agoSounds like the AOL keyword days. :)
- emehrkay 13y ago.guru seems like a good one with tons of app/saas appeal
- scott_karana 13y agoIn the short term, I'm not too worried: consumers not wanting to enter long/weird domains will probably cause most of these to fade into obscurity. On the other hand: is ICANN completely broken? This could have more serious ramifications down the road...
- 0x0 13y agoI think it's super suspect that ICANN, a non-profit organization with a purpose to maintain "the stable and secure operation" of the Internet (as described by Wikipedia), can allow this to happen. Do these additional generic top-level domains bring any benefits - beyond being a license to print money for the tld sponsor®istrars?
- dangerlibrary 13y agoDo they have any meaningful costs?
- 0x0 13y agoOne pretty big cost is the risk of confusion when visiting "somebrandname.sometld", especially if it's a different entity from the ".com" domain. It can also be a cost (both moneywise and as a time sink) for brands wishing to protect their identify, if the number of tlds increases with a magnitude. (Multiplied by the number of misspellings and hyphenations etc). It's probably likely to break a lot of (buggy) software (just try entering an @example.museum email around the web today). Non-technical people are likely to be confused (so increased support costs, re-education, etc). What happens to a gTLD and all the registered subdomains, when its sponsoring corporation goes under? The DNS root zone grows, which may have undesirable costs for caching nameservers and DNS traffic. It feels like a waste of energy and time that a non-profit like ICANN could have used for more constructive work.
- bachback 13y agogood points. In terms of the semantics: in the end it's up to people using it. I'm more worried about profiteering than confusion. But it's for the market to figure it out. I don't think the traffic is significant. caching is very easy - you don't need to have all 10^12 - 10^15 domains on disk and even if the size per record is tiny. Bugs are less significant than possible collisions and fraud. Definitely agree with the sentiment that ICANN is broken.
- dlsx 13y agoI have brokered .com domains for many startups over the past few years, and I can say almost every time the domain was fairly priced and a deal was reached without too much negotiating or time wasted. I really think a lot of startups shoot themselves in the foot by just saying "everything in .com is taken." Well maybe, but that doesn't mean you can't pay $2-5k and actually secure your domain. What I am saying is shelling out a few grand now for the appropriate .com will save you loads of time and headaches than if you try to brand on non dot-com and eventually realize you can't live without it.
- bachback 13y agoI think I disagree. .com is mostly a historic artefact. how about my.startup?
- dragonwriter 13y ago> how about my.startup? Why would you want "startup" as part of your permanent brand identity?
- fakename 13y agostill holding out for clownpenis.fart
- earlz 13y agoThese domains appear to be going for $30/year, at least the ones operated by Donuts (ie, most). See http://www.101domain.com/domain-availability-search.htm http://www.101domain.com/domain-availability-search.htm and then search for foobar.bike
- gesman 13y agoCan we have this TLD: .yetanotherkindausefulbutmaybenottld ? :)
- harvestmoon 13y agoWe don't need 50 crappy new domain extensions. We just need one new one that works well like .com. Personally, I had high hopes for .co, but it doesn't seem too well adopted yet.
- amybe 13y agoIt's definitely getting there. It seems .io is where it's at, though, despite the price.
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