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It feels like the NFL is making every effort possible for me to be unable to watch games these days. They continue to do this, I might just give up on watching

by theg2 13y ago

It feels like the NFL is making every effort possible for me to be unable to watch games these days. They continue to do this, I might just give up on watching live games all together. The legal options are A) pay an expensive cable bill B) go to a bar C) have an antenna and live in a city. Keep going NFL, eventually you'll piss off enough younger fans where you'll end up like the NHL. I say this as a diehard football fan.

freehunter 13y ago
Hopefully Aero will push them, through whatever means, to offer their content in a more direct manner (and by more direct, I don't mean the NFL Network). MLB.tv is a good example to go by. Let me pay $10/mo and stream the games anywhere. MLB.tv has limitations (blackouts make the service useless for home games), but it's a heck of a lot better than needing cable.
toomuchtodo 13y ago
News Corps's COO threatened to take Fox off the air because of Aereo. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-08/news-corp-says-it-will-take-fox-off-air-if-courts-ok-aereo-1-.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-08/news-corp-says-it-w... A lot of broadcast TV business models are about to get (ugh, I'm so sorry; I hate to say this) disrupted. EDIT: Edited to correct "Fox News" to "Fox" in general.
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- gonzo 13y ago
  if the death of Fox is in the cards, I'm for it.
- hudibras 13y ago
  This negotiating maneuver is known as a "bluff."
modeless 13y ago
This year there was another legal option, not well publicized: $99 for NFL Sunday Ticket. That's every Sunday game live streamed over the internet. The only problem with Sunday Ticket is the restrictions that are there to protect the broadcast industry: local game blackouts, no Monday Night Football, etc. I say, good riddance to the broadcasters! Go all in on internet broadcasts and get rid of the restrictions. It's not like the major networks are going to actually drop NFL games. Call their bluff.
- HelloMcFly 13y ago
  I thought Sunday Ticket was a DirecTV-only thing?
  - aroch 13y ago
    It is, but DTV has an online streaming version of it. If you bought the anniversary edition of Madden 25 you got access to the streaming (and actual channel if you have DTV) for the season. It's pretty much the only reason I bought Madden -- it was ~$100 for the game + DTV combo.
- smackfu 13y ago
  I thought Sunday Ticket was more like $299.
  - modeless 13y ago
    There was a special deal where if you pre-ordered this year's Madden game for $99 you got NFL Sunday Ticket for "free". Of course, Sunday Ticket is worth more than the Madden game, so it was a ridiculous and silly deal, but no more ridiculous and silly than the rest of the contracts and regulations the NFL has for their game broadcasts.
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- kevincrane 13y ago
  I bought into that deal and have been hugely disappointed. Half the streams don't load and many other games are blacked out locally so I had to buy a TV antenna to watch them live. Despite my best efforts to follow the rules and watch legally, I still end up on sketchy free sites because they work more reliably.
antonius 13y ago
eventually you'll piss off enough younger fans where you'll end up like the NHL. What does this imply? Aside from the lockouts, the NHL has secured long-term broadcasting deals in Canada and the US to fulfill the growth that it sees in the North American market. Clearly the NHL isn't anything close to the NFL from a financial standpoint, but implying the NHL is some bottom-feeder, profitless sports league isn't right.
- theg2 13y ago
  The NHL is a shadow of its former self after losing support during the lockouts.
  - antonius 13y ago
    Stating things without sources/facts doesn't mean much.
    - mitchty 13y ago
      Anecdotes aren't data, but where I live in Minnesota, every hockey fan that up until 2 years ago always had season tickets, won't even contemplate buying them again. These are people that have been buying NHL season tickets for their entire lives in what amounts to "hockey country". We'll see how it affects certain teams but the NHL does have fallout from the lockout.
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bunderbunder 13y ago
Even if folks don't end up pissed off, I think even just cutting down on exposure tends to have a similar effect. It's pretty easy to fill the gap left by one TV program with some other TV program. Or any number of non-TV activities, for that matter.
jasonkester 13y ago
Option D) is to watch all your games on Monday. Torrents usually show up first thing Monday morning (US time), and are commercial free. So if you can stay off Facebook and refuse to answer your phone or check email (just in case) for long enough to download and watch the game, you don't need any of that hassle. Or you could move to Europe and pay the NFL a hundred bucks a season for the same thing. (Probably not as good a dollar value as your other options, though, considering moving costs and all.) ps. Don't tell me who won the Seahawks game!
- bruceb 13y ago
  Is the game at home? Then they won. Go Hawks.
- ralphc 13y ago
  As someone who rents a VPS in the UK, tell me more about this "move to Europe" thing...
  - Q6T46nT668w6i3m 13y ago
    https://gamepass.nfl.com https://gamepass.nfl.com This is my second year using NFL Game Pass. It’s excellent. And the cost of VPN + Game Pass subscription is less than cable.
    - pyre 13y ago
      Is this supposed to show up as more expensive in the US? In Canada, it's showing up as only $104.
      - drawkbox 13y ago
        "NFL Game Pass is not available in the United States and Mexico,* but you can still get unlimited access to NFL games:" Game Rewind and Audio Pass, they lock out their biggest fans in the US for live games online legally.
joe_the_user 13y ago
It feels like the NFL is making every effort possible for me to be unable to watch games these days. Good Maybe it'll put an end to head-injury peddling, rape-festooned garbage pit that is American Football. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/14/2777431/maryville-missouri-rape/ http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/14/2777431/maryville... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/head-injuries-make-football-a-bad-bet.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/head-injuries-make-...
wdr1 13y ago
They did have another option this year: Get NFL Sunday Ticket for ~$90 dollars.

by theg2 13y ago

freehunter 13y ago

Hopefully Aero will push them, through whatever means, to offer their content in a more direct manner (and by more direct, I don't mean the NFL Network). MLB.tv is a good example to go by. Let me pay $10/mo and stream the games anywhere. MLB.tv has limitations (blackouts make the service useless for home games), but it's a heck of a lot better than needing cable.

toomuchtodo 13y ago

News Corps's COO threatened to take Fox off the air because of Aereo. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-08/news-corp-says-it-will-take-fox-off-air-if-courts-ok-aereo-1-.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-08/news-corp-says-it-w... A lot of broadcast TV business models are about to get (ugh, I'm so sorry; I hate to say this) disrupted. EDIT: Edited to correct "Fox News" to "Fox" in general.

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gonzo 13y ago
if the death of Fox is in the cards, I'm for it.
hudibras 13y ago
This negotiating maneuver is known as a "bluff."

modeless 13y ago

This year there was another legal option, not well publicized: $99 for NFL Sunday Ticket. That's every Sunday game live streamed over the internet. The only problem with Sunday Ticket is the restrictions that are there to protect the broadcast industry: local game blackouts, no Monday Night Football, etc. I say, good riddance to the broadcasters! Go all in on internet broadcasts and get rid of the restrictions. It's not like the major networks are going to actually drop NFL games. Call their bluff.

HelloMcFly 13y ago
I thought Sunday Ticket was a DirecTV-only thing?
- aroch 13y ago
  It is, but DTV has an online streaming version of it. If you bought the anniversary edition of Madden 25 you got access to the streaming (and actual channel if you have DTV) for the season. It's pretty much the only reason I bought Madden -- it was ~$100 for the game + DTV combo.
smackfu 13y ago
I thought Sunday Ticket was more like $299.
- modeless 13y ago
  There was a special deal where if you pre-ordered this year's Madden game for $99 you got NFL Sunday Ticket for "free". Of course, Sunday Ticket is worth more than the Madden game, so it was a ridiculous and silly deal, but no more ridiculous and silly than the rest of the contracts and regulations the NFL has for their game broadcasts.
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kevincrane 13y ago
I bought into that deal and have been hugely disappointed. Half the streams don't load and many other games are blacked out locally so I had to buy a TV antenna to watch them live. Despite my best efforts to follow the rules and watch legally, I still end up on sketchy free sites because they work more reliably.

antonius 13y ago

eventually you'll piss off enough younger fans where you'll end up like the NHL. What does this imply? Aside from the lockouts, the NHL has secured long-term broadcasting deals in Canada and the US to fulfill the growth that it sees in the North American market. Clearly the NHL isn't anything close to the NFL from a financial standpoint, but implying the NHL is some bottom-feeder, profitless sports league isn't right.

theg2 13y ago
The NHL is a shadow of its former self after losing support during the lockouts.
- antonius 13y ago
  Stating things without sources/facts doesn't mean much.
  - mitchty 13y ago
    Anecdotes aren't data, but where I live in Minnesota, every hockey fan that up until 2 years ago always had season tickets, won't even contemplate buying them again. These are people that have been buying NHL season tickets for their entire lives in what amounts to "hockey country". We'll see how it affects certain teams but the NHL does have fallout from the lockout.

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bunderbunder 13y ago

Even if folks don't end up pissed off, I think even just cutting down on exposure tends to have a similar effect. It's pretty easy to fill the gap left by one TV program with some other TV program. Or any number of non-TV activities, for that matter.

jasonkester 13y ago

Option D) is to watch all your games on Monday. Torrents usually show up first thing Monday morning (US time), and are commercial free. So if you can stay off Facebook and refuse to answer your phone or check email (just in case) for long enough to download and watch the game, you don't need any of that hassle. Or you could move to Europe and pay the NFL a hundred bucks a season for the same thing. (Probably not as good a dollar value as your other options, though, considering moving costs and all.) ps. Don't tell me who won the Seahawks game!

bruceb 13y ago
Is the game at home? Then they won. Go Hawks.
ralphc 13y ago
As someone who rents a VPS in the UK, tell me more about this "move to Europe" thing...
- Q6T46nT668w6i3m 13y ago
  https://gamepass.nfl.com https://gamepass.nfl.com This is my second year using NFL Game Pass. It’s excellent. And the cost of VPN + Game Pass subscription is less than cable.
  - pyre 13y ago
    Is this supposed to show up as more expensive in the US? In Canada, it's showing up as only $104.
    - drawkbox 13y ago
      "NFL Game Pass is not available in the United States and Mexico,* but you can still get unlimited access to NFL games:" Game Rewind and Audio Pass, they lock out their biggest fans in the US for live games online legally.

joe_the_user 13y ago

It feels like the NFL is making every effort possible for me to be unable to watch games these days. Good Maybe it'll put an end to head-injury peddling, rape-festooned garbage pit that is American Football. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/14/2777431/maryville-missouri-rape/ http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/14/2777431/maryville... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/head-injuries-make-football-a-bad-bet.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/head-injuries-make-...

wdr1 13y ago

They did have another option this year: Get NFL Sunday Ticket for ~$90 dollars.