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China is now such a big market and a big power that every industries, countries downplay any criticism. I think one of the biggest example is Hollywood, it has
by doe88 13y ago
China is now such a big market and a big power that every industries, countries downplay any criticism. I think one of the biggest example is Hollywood, it has long gone the time where there was movies on the Tibet, now Hollywood is even making special versions of its movies to include few minutes with chinese actors (see Iron Man 3).
- tezmc 13y agoWasn't it similar with Japan in the eighties?
- camus2 13y agoThe difference is Japan had it's own industry right from the start,it was its way,like Germany to be proud again after WW2. It was not american brands manifacturing goods in Japan, it was Japan copying US products and selling them at a cheaper price, with an acceptable quality.
- leokun 13y agoChina has its own quality brands. Lenovo comes to mind. Lenovos are probably some of the best laptops out there.
- jonknee 13y agoPurchased from an American company though (IBM). Are there any home grown Chinese brands that are seen as quality?
- welly 13y agoChamonix View Cameras (http://www.chamonixviewcamera.com/ http://www.chamonixviewcamera.com/) are stunning and incredibly well made. All I can think of off the top of my head.
- dublinben 13y agoOppo is the undisputed quality leader in BluRay players.
- crdoconnor 13y agoHuawei make a lot of good stuff nowadays.
- vidarh 13y agoXiaomi springs to mind, though they're not marketed much outside of China (high end, $500+ Android phones)
- pm90 13y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier
- seanmcdirmid 13y agoI own an X1 Carbon, its ok but still only half as good as the fruit. Living in china, I'm not sure what is made and designed here that I would say is really quality....mauve noodles?
- ams6110 13y agoI remember Japan running rings around US products from a quality standpoint, not just being "acceptable." This is quite unlike China where the default quality is crap (though you CAN get good quality from Chinese manufacturing, you have to demand it and do your own QA to be sure you're getting it).
- busterarm 13y agoYou might want to rethink your opinion on this. It's much more accurate to say that the default quality that most outsourcers are willing to pay for is crap. It comes down to going for the lowest price and poor description of requirements from overseas. The last few years I've been getting tons of small-run, custom manufactured goods from China, ranging from custom keyboards (and CNC'd aluminum cases for them), custom electronics (mostly routers), to handcrafted belts and tailored clothes. All of them are of absolutely outstanding quality and all of the communication I've seen demonstrates some incredibly skilled craftsmen who take pride in their products. A lot of the knowledge/experience is gone from US manufacturing. Once they figure out customer service (which is generally poor, but good with some shops), you're going to see a lot more people doing what I've been doing.
- crdoconnor 13y agoJapan used to make crap too, before they moved up the value chain (as China is doing now).
- camus2 13y agoIt has been this way for 10 years already. Nobody's complaining about China anymore in the mass media or hollywood, the whole western economy relies on china's manufacturing capabilities. Good for china , bad for most of us, because there is a hidden cost to all these cheap stuffs , it's called debt. We could build stuff so people can actually afford it, instead of working at McDonalds or Walmart for a minimum wage, but it's not profitable enough in a world of short term profit.
- icebraining 13y agoWe could build stuff so people can actually afford it What "stuff" are you talking about? Manufacturing? Because the US actually makes a lot of "stuff", it just doesn't need people to do it, thanks to a lot of engineers like us who have automated it to hell.
- LekkoscPiwa 13y agoexamples? Could you list 5 products with "made in the USA" label that are world wide famous and sold globally?
- xradionut 13y agoDoes that include mass media, software or weapons systems?
- wtvanhest 13y agoPlease take a look at this link. It is definitely "biased" but still accurate. The US is still a major manufacturing hub. Manufacturing makes up 11.9% of US GDP. http://www.nam.org/Statistics-And-Data/Facts-About-Manufacturing/Landing.aspx http://www.nam.org/Statistics-And-Data/Facts-About-Manufactu...
- selectodude 13y agoBoeing 777, Tesla Model S, Microsoft Windows, Intel Core i7, Caterpillar construction equipment. That's just 5 I could think of off the top of my head. Tried to mix it up with regards to industries too.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoIIRC, the extra Chinese footage in Iron Man 3 was done entirely by the Chinese distributor. Hollywood had nothing to do with it, and even Chinese audiences thought it was an embarrassment. But the rest of your point is accurate, yes.
- lifeisstillgood 13y agoDid I miss the Chinese actors? You are not thinking of Ben Kingsley surely? edit: various pointless teenager-y references to characters redacted now moocow has pointed out what I missed. Weird
- moocowduckquack 13y agoDid I miss the Chinese actors? Yes, they were not in the version you saw. http://kotaku.com/why-many-in-china-hate-iron-man-3s-chinese-version-486840429 http://kotaku.com/why-many-in-china-hate-iron-man-3s-chinese...
- lifeisstillgood 13y agoWow.... That's really, odd.
- gohrt 13y ago> There's also this extra long shot of Dr. Wu awkwardly pouring a glass of Yili brand Chinese milk. I though that lactose intolerance was so widespread in China that it wouldn't be a product for mass-market advertising.
- strlen 13y agoCouple of things: 1) There are many lactose-free milk drinks -- from literally "lactose free milk" (milk with lactose removed) to any kind of kefir/yogurt like products. 2) Being lactose intolerant doesn't mean sudden death upon drinking products that contain lactose. In most cases, it means "generic upset stomach" symptoms (that could have any number of causes -- e.g., is it the lactose in the latte, the coffee in the latter, or is it lack of sleep?) with moderate lactose intake or very few or no symptoms when lactose intake is only occasional. (I'm lactose intolerant, but I didn't actually know this until recently.)