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I love almost eveything GitHub does, and the way they do them. I'm a GitHub fanboy. There it is. I had a similar crush on Google, maybe 6-7 years ago, they los

by eknkc 13y ago

I love almost eveything GitHub does, and the way they do them. I'm a GitHub fanboy. There it is. I had a similar crush on Google, maybe 6-7 years ago, they lost me somewhere on the road.

reustle 13y ago
I think they lost a lot of us as soon as the G+ train started rolling.
- kmfrk 13y ago
  Speaking of the Google analogy, I hope they do more with their acquisitions of Speaker Deck and gaug.es, as I can't recall a single feature being added or improved since their acquisitions.
  - jbrooksuk 13y ago
    I believe gaug.es has been sold, or moved home. It's now being run by FastestForward.com
- sillysaurus2 13y ago
  The question is, do we matter anymore?
  - pron 13y ago
    Of course we matter. After all, Google profits from trafficking our private lives. It's a company that manufactures sugar coated surveillance devices that seem so useful that we submit to them willingly. If we didn't matter, Google will have had nothing. After all, its power stems from our voluntary submission to its merciless watching eye. In fact, the question is frightening. Are we, prisoners, afraid that our benevolent jailers no longer pay us enough attention? That they've lost their touch to slyly subdue us by painting the convincing illusion that they have our best interests in mind? Have the abusive guardians' charms lost their potency on their admiring wards?
  - bowlofpetunias 13y ago
    Methinks they already gave us the answer to that question.
- pekk 13y ago
  The problems Google has have nothing to do with Facebook being better, or G+ being empty or whatever. Facebook is terrible.
  - TylerE 13y ago
    And G+ is worse because the thing with Facebook...I'm never FORCED to reveal my Facebook identity on the open web. G+ doesn't really give me that option.
    - aliakbarkhan 13y ago
      You've clearly never been to one of the many sites that insists you log in through Facebook.
      - Anderkent 13y ago
        But that's fine. I don't care if there's a multitude of services that I never use anyway, and they require facebook login. I care when services that I do use, purely by virtue of being bought/owned by google, are claimed by a social site I don't use.
      - Macha 13y ago
        The only one I recall it being mandatory on is Quora. Most offer Facebook as an alternative. And as a result, I never used Quora.
        aryastark 13y ago
        Spotify was doing it when I tried to join. They apparently changed it later, to not require Facebook. But, you know, first impressions being what they are, I'll never be a subscriber. Trust is hard to recover once lost. Guess Google is going to find that out the hard way.
        Semaphor 13y ago
        Oh, it works without FB again? I joined when it was new but never used it much (niche musical taste). When I tried to login again a few (4-12) months ago, it wanted to force me to use FB so I just started ignoring them altogether.
RandallBrown 13y ago
Back in college around '08 my friend and I always used to joke that Google would buy a startup or company, then make their product free and better. That doesn't seem to happen much anymore.
- ldng 13y ago
  Nop, it does not. They're walling their garden. Many thanks Mr Job. Youtube comment only available if you're logged in for instance. Actually, nothing that new here. They wanted to build the Google distributed "computer" since early on. Except some of us thought it would be open like the PC. It's now all closed like a Mac
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yapcguy 13y ago
What's the big deal about Github? Too much hype. Whenever you hear about the number of repos, most of them are just forks. In fact, I've created many by accident because Github changed their UI so clicking the icon instantly starts a fork instead of asking for confirmation first. I guess it's good for bumping the numbers up when getting private equity investors interested (cynical, I know). Security wise, meh. Why would anybody pay to put their closed-source proprietary code onto Github? More holes than a sieve with their Rails setup. Ok, you want somewhere to stash some private repos, nothing confidential. So why would you pay for Github when you can use Bitbucket for unlimited private repos? Plenty of other providers too. Their enterprise product? Expensive meh. Atlassian's enterprise Stash is shared/open source when you get a license. You can also just install Gitlab, Gitorious, etc. for free on your own servers. Github fanboys get excited whenever a big name dumps some code onto Github, like when Linus copied the kernel code over, but it was just a dumping ground while they sorted out server problems of their own. Ubuntu uses Bazaar and Trac, Linux Kernel development uses git on their own servers, KDE is over at Gitorious. Heck, there are some people still using Darcs and SVN. Github is popular but it's not essential unless crave social karma points and your name/handle in lights. Sorry for the rant like writing, lots of thoughts above, but I just never saw what the big deal about Github was. A good business and a slick offering but it's not going to suddenly transform your software projects or your abilities as a programmer.
- jmathai 13y ago
  > A good business and a slick offering but it's not going to suddenly transform your software projects or your abilities as a programmer. I'd wager a pretty penny that Github has exposed a few orders of magnitude more people to the actual source of open source software than its predecessor, SourceForge. Edit: grammar
  - ternaryoperator 13y ago
    A few orders of magnitude? So at least 100x more? You might want to rethink that. sf.net gets more traffic today than github does. So, two orders of magnitude is most unlikely.

by eknkc 13y ago

I love almost eveything GitHub does, and the way they do them. I'm a GitHub fanboy. There it is. I had a similar crush on Google, maybe 6-7 years ago, they lost me somewhere on the road.

reustle 13y ago

I think they lost a lot of us as soon as the G+ train started rolling.

kmfrk 13y ago
Speaking of the Google analogy, I hope they do more with their acquisitions of Speaker Deck and gaug.es, as I can't recall a single feature being added or improved since their acquisitions.
- jbrooksuk 13y ago
  I believe gaug.es has been sold, or moved home. It's now being run by FastestForward.com
sillysaurus2 13y ago
The question is, do we matter anymore?
- pron 13y ago
  Of course we matter. After all, Google profits from trafficking our private lives. It's a company that manufactures sugar coated surveillance devices that seem so useful that we submit to them willingly. If we didn't matter, Google will have had nothing. After all, its power stems from our voluntary submission to its merciless watching eye. In fact, the question is frightening. Are we, prisoners, afraid that our benevolent jailers no longer pay us enough attention? That they've lost their touch to slyly subdue us by painting the convincing illusion that they have our best interests in mind? Have the abusive guardians' charms lost their potency on their admiring wards?
- bowlofpetunias 13y ago
  Methinks they already gave us the answer to that question.
pekk 13y ago
The problems Google has have nothing to do with Facebook being better, or G+ being empty or whatever. Facebook is terrible.
- TylerE 13y ago
  And G+ is worse because the thing with Facebook...I'm never FORCED to reveal my Facebook identity on the open web. G+ doesn't really give me that option.
  - aliakbarkhan 13y ago
    You've clearly never been to one of the many sites that insists you log in through Facebook.
    - Anderkent 13y ago
      But that's fine. I don't care if there's a multitude of services that I never use anyway, and they require facebook login. I care when services that I do use, purely by virtue of being bought/owned by google, are claimed by a social site I don't use.
    - Macha 13y ago
      The only one I recall it being mandatory on is Quora. Most offer Facebook as an alternative. And as a result, I never used Quora.
      - aryastark 13y ago
        Spotify was doing it when I tried to join. They apparently changed it later, to not require Facebook. But, you know, first impressions being what they are, I'll never be a subscriber. Trust is hard to recover once lost. Guess Google is going to find that out the hard way.
        Semaphor 13y ago
        Oh, it works without FB again? I joined when it was new but never used it much (niche musical taste). When I tried to login again a few (4-12) months ago, it wanted to force me to use FB so I just started ignoring them altogether.

RandallBrown 13y ago

Back in college around '08 my friend and I always used to joke that Google would buy a startup or company, then make their product free and better. That doesn't seem to happen much anymore.

ldng 13y ago
Nop, it does not. They're walling their garden. Many thanks Mr Job. Youtube comment only available if you're logged in for instance. Actually, nothing that new here. They wanted to build the Google distributed "computer" since early on. Except some of us thought it would be open like the PC. It's now all closed like a Mac
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yapcguy 13y ago

What's the big deal about Github? Too much hype. Whenever you hear about the number of repos, most of them are just forks. In fact, I've created many by accident because Github changed their UI so clicking the icon instantly starts a fork instead of asking for confirmation first. I guess it's good for bumping the numbers up when getting private equity investors interested (cynical, I know). Security wise, meh. Why would anybody pay to put their closed-source proprietary code onto Github? More holes than a sieve with their Rails setup. Ok, you want somewhere to stash some private repos, nothing confidential. So why would you pay for Github when you can use Bitbucket for unlimited private repos? Plenty of other providers too. Their enterprise product? Expensive meh. Atlassian's enterprise Stash is shared/open source when you get a license. You can also just install Gitlab, Gitorious, etc. for free on your own servers. Github fanboys get excited whenever a big name dumps some code onto Github, like when Linus copied the kernel code over, but it was just a dumping ground while they sorted out server problems of their own. Ubuntu uses Bazaar and Trac, Linux Kernel development uses git on their own servers, KDE is over at Gitorious. Heck, there are some people still using Darcs and SVN. Github is popular but it's not essential unless crave social karma points and your name/handle in lights. Sorry for the rant like writing, lots of thoughts above, but I just never saw what the big deal about Github was. A good business and a slick offering but it's not going to suddenly transform your software projects or your abilities as a programmer.

jmathai 13y ago
> A good business and a slick offering but it's not going to suddenly transform your software projects or your abilities as a programmer. I'd wager a pretty penny that Github has exposed a few orders of magnitude more people to the actual source of open source software than its predecessor, SourceForge. Edit: grammar
- ternaryoperator 13y ago
  A few orders of magnitude? So at least 100x more? You might want to rethink that. sf.net gets more traffic today than github does. So, two orders of magnitude is most unlikely.