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People are split because the smoking thing long ago transitioned from reasonable public health measures to a moral panic. The evidence for damage from second h

by tsotha 13y ago

People are split because the smoking thing long ago transitioned from reasonable public health measures to a moral panic. The evidence for damage from second hand cigarette smoke in unconfined places is nonexistent, yet we have laws pushing smokers further out into parking lots and "smoke free" college campuses. My prediction is if the FDA finds there's no increased risk for anything bad from eCigs there will still be a sizable percentage of the population that wants to ban them.

chc 13y ago
AFAIK the campaign against outdoor smoking is more about litter and fire risks than health.
ryanhuff 13y ago
While health concerns are an obvious concern for second hand smoke, for me, the smell is a huge issue, and drives me away. If the e-cigarettes are accompanied by any odor, please keep them away.
- hvs 13y ago
  The same could be said of perfume or cologne.
- jsmeaton 13y ago
  The smells are different depending on the device. Devices producing lots of vapour will give off a smell, while less vapour has less of a smell. The smell each juice gives off is similar to the taste and dissipates really quickly. The flavours in my devices are currently "honeydew melon" and "tobacco+caramel" which has a caramel-ly smell. As long as someone isn't blowing the vapour directly in your face you'll either barely notice, or it'll be like walking by someone that's wearing perfume or aftershave.
lambda 13y ago
Smokers huddling in the doorway means there's a nice big cloud of smoke that I need to walk through and breath in, which then gets blown into the bar as soon as I open the door. Even if smoking in completely unconfined spaces is harmless due to the smoke dissipating too quickly to be concentrated enough to cause harm, what winds up happening when you ban smoking indoors is that people just smoke huddled up in the doorway (especially if you live somewhere cold, where the smokers huddle in the door for a quick smoke, and then drop their butts all over the ground). Setting aside the danger, it's quite obnoxious. It's a powerful, unpleasant odor to many people, and can trigger asthma attacks. Smokers seem to believe that because they want to inhale something, everyone else around them must want to inhale it as well. Why do they think that? Anyhow, if it is shown that there's no secondhand risk from e-cigs, and they turn out to be less obnoxious than regular cigarettes (I've never walked through a cloud of vapor from a bunch of people using e-cigs, so I can't say), then I would be happy to allow them. As long as they don't affect me, I welcome you putting whatever you want into your body. Heck, I'd welcome them if it meant not having the huddling smokers outside and pile of discarded butts on the ground. But if they are harmful, or if they do lead to obnoxious odors (and I find many perfumes offensive and wish those were banned too, so telling me that they are flavored or smell nice won't help), they should be treated similarly to any other form of smoking.

by tsotha 13y ago

chc 13y ago

AFAIK the campaign against outdoor smoking is more about litter and fire risks than health.

ryanhuff 13y ago

While health concerns are an obvious concern for second hand smoke, for me, the smell is a huge issue, and drives me away. If the e-cigarettes are accompanied by any odor, please keep them away.

hvs 13y ago
The same could be said of perfume or cologne.
jsmeaton 13y ago
The smells are different depending on the device. Devices producing lots of vapour will give off a smell, while less vapour has less of a smell. The smell each juice gives off is similar to the taste and dissipates really quickly. The flavours in my devices are currently "honeydew melon" and "tobacco+caramel" which has a caramel-ly smell. As long as someone isn't blowing the vapour directly in your face you'll either barely notice, or it'll be like walking by someone that's wearing perfume or aftershave.

lambda 13y ago

Smokers huddling in the doorway means there's a nice big cloud of smoke that I need to walk through and breath in, which then gets blown into the bar as soon as I open the door. Even if smoking in completely unconfined spaces is harmless due to the smoke dissipating too quickly to be concentrated enough to cause harm, what winds up happening when you ban smoking indoors is that people just smoke huddled up in the doorway (especially if you live somewhere cold, where the smokers huddle in the door for a quick smoke, and then drop their butts all over the ground). Setting aside the danger, it's quite obnoxious. It's a powerful, unpleasant odor to many people, and can trigger asthma attacks. Smokers seem to believe that because they want to inhale something, everyone else around them must want to inhale it as well. Why do they think that? Anyhow, if it is shown that there's no secondhand risk from e-cigs, and they turn out to be less obnoxious than regular cigarettes (I've never walked through a cloud of vapor from a bunch of people using e-cigs, so I can't say), then I would be happy to allow them. As long as they don't affect me, I welcome you putting whatever you want into your body. Heck, I'd welcome them if it meant not having the huddling smokers outside and pile of discarded butts on the ground. But if they are harmful, or if they do lead to obnoxious odors (and I find many perfumes offensive and wish those were banned too, so telling me that they are flavored or smell nice won't help), they should be treated similarly to any other form of smoking.