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Seconded. These prices are ridiculous even by cloud-standards. $2000/mo for a 60G box... For that money you can buy an equivalent server every month. And don

by moe 13y ago

Seconded. These prices are ridiculous even by cloud-standards. $2000/mo for a 60G box... For that money you can buy an equivalent server every month. And don't get me started on $4000/mo for 120G, that's almost two equivalent servers. Every month.

robotmay 13y ago
I run 2x2GB, 2x1GB, and 2x512MB servers on DigitalOcean for only slightly more than one 2GB Rackspace server :\ I understand why their costs might be higher (excellent support staff, always had stellar support from RS), but it doesn't really justify that much of a difference.
- jdubs 13y ago
  Digital Ocean is cool and everything, however they're new to the cloud hosting industry. Take for instance Rackspace or AWS, they've been around for a long time and they can command a high price due to their longevity and also can charge higher prices because their target customers are not as price sensitive as you. Rackspace in particular can charge higher fees because of their support and SLAs, if there is a problem you can't figure out, and you have some money to spend they can find some one to fix it for your organization.
  - robotmay 13y ago
    Oh I agree, I just wish they offered a different tier or something around half their current prices. I'd be willing to pay more to host with Rackspace as I've had great experiences with them in the past, but I just plain can't afford to host my current project with them.
  - quicksilver03 13y ago
    The longevity doesn't mean much in the world of hosting, it's like the disclaimer that you see when looking at financial products: "past results do not guarantee future performance". The advantage of a "old" hosting company is that it's less likely to go out of business in a heartbeat, it's not necessarily enough to convince me in paying more for the same services that I can get elsewhere.
meritt 13y ago
Spec-wise that 60G box is comparable to hi1.4xlarge, which is storage optimized, and you're looking at $2263 at AWS base pricing (this is ignoring reserved and spot-pricing). While their pricing is indeed rather high, it appears to be similar to at least AWS pricing.
bsenftner 13y ago
Don't buy into the cloud hype. Buy your own servers and colocate. In less than a year, I've been able to build up a server rack at my colo by purchasing for pennies on the dollar lease-expired top of the line servers: 16 cores minimum & 32 gigs ram minimum, for usually around $100. They are all reliable servers, which I clean up and rack. Today, I offer hosting as a side business with $200 per month providing the equal to what RackSpace's Performance servers offer in triplicate: dev, hosting & staging, with git migration and programmatic file synchronization between them. For the "critical" pieces and parts I've custom designed and built heavy iron servers that are simply not available anywhere. Why be a drop in someone else's cloud when you can easily create your own entire sky?
- kordless 13y ago
  This is both genius and obvious.
- TY 13y ago
  If you don't mind sharing, where do you buy such servers for around $100? I'm thinking about setting up a home lab...
  - bsenftner 13y ago
    I know people who manage server farms for medium to large companies. They lease their servers, and when the lease is over you can often directly contact the lessor and learn they have a room of such servers just collecting dust. Likewise, my colo has customers who abandon accounts - leaving perfectly fine hardware behind. Just keeping one's eyes and ears open for the opportunities pays off.

by moe 13y ago

robotmay 13y ago

I run 2x2GB, 2x1GB, and 2x512MB servers on DigitalOcean for only slightly more than one 2GB Rackspace server :\ I understand why their costs might be higher (excellent support staff, always had stellar support from RS), but it doesn't really justify that much of a difference.

jdubs 13y ago
Digital Ocean is cool and everything, however they're new to the cloud hosting industry. Take for instance Rackspace or AWS, they've been around for a long time and they can command a high price due to their longevity and also can charge higher prices because their target customers are not as price sensitive as you. Rackspace in particular can charge higher fees because of their support and SLAs, if there is a problem you can't figure out, and you have some money to spend they can find some one to fix it for your organization.
- robotmay 13y ago
  Oh I agree, I just wish they offered a different tier or something around half their current prices. I'd be willing to pay more to host with Rackspace as I've had great experiences with them in the past, but I just plain can't afford to host my current project with them.
- quicksilver03 13y ago
  The longevity doesn't mean much in the world of hosting, it's like the disclaimer that you see when looking at financial products: "past results do not guarantee future performance". The advantage of a "old" hosting company is that it's less likely to go out of business in a heartbeat, it's not necessarily enough to convince me in paying more for the same services that I can get elsewhere.

meritt 13y ago

Spec-wise that 60G box is comparable to hi1.4xlarge, which is storage optimized, and you're looking at $2263 at AWS base pricing (this is ignoring reserved and spot-pricing). While their pricing is indeed rather high, it appears to be similar to at least AWS pricing.

bsenftner 13y ago

Don't buy into the cloud hype. Buy your own servers and colocate. In less than a year, I've been able to build up a server rack at my colo by purchasing for pennies on the dollar lease-expired top of the line servers: 16 cores minimum & 32 gigs ram minimum, for usually around $100. They are all reliable servers, which I clean up and rack. Today, I offer hosting as a side business with $200 per month providing the equal to what RackSpace's Performance servers offer in triplicate: dev, hosting & staging, with git migration and programmatic file synchronization between them. For the "critical" pieces and parts I've custom designed and built heavy iron servers that are simply not available anywhere. Why be a drop in someone else's cloud when you can easily create your own entire sky?

kordless 13y ago
This is both genius and obvious.
TY 13y ago
If you don't mind sharing, where do you buy such servers for around $100? I'm thinking about setting up a home lab...
- bsenftner 13y ago
  I know people who manage server farms for medium to large companies. They lease their servers, and when the lease is over you can often directly contact the lessor and learn they have a room of such servers just collecting dust. Likewise, my colo has customers who abandon accounts - leaving perfectly fine hardware behind. Just keeping one's eyes and ears open for the opportunities pays off.