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The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998
- Titanous 13y ago$ curl -sI http://www.microsoft.com/games/monster/default.htm | grep Last-Modified Last-Modified: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:19:11 GMT
- chrismonsanto 13y agoMight have been copied to a different server and someone forgot to copy the metadata too.
- aatish 13y agoI see your monster truck madness website, and I raise you the Space Jam website, unchanged since 1996 http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm
- _mgr 13y ago"I programmed my home computer to beam myself into the future."
- chebucto 13y agoHand written, with a little comment from the author at the top of each page. 'Model Rocketry is fun and educational.' (http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/cmp/tunes/tunes.html http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/cmp/tunes/tunes.ht...) 'Oy, am I tired.' (http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/cmp/souvenirs/souvenirs.html http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/cmp/souvenirs/souv...)
- cgtyoder 13y ago"<!-- Badda Bing, Badda Boom -->"
- orblivion 13y agoAnother one I like to point out: http://www.heavensgate.com/ http://www.heavensgate.com/
- ChikkaChiChi 13y ago...who is paying to keep that online?
- fuzzybassoon 13y agoMaybe the one person who (supposedly) left the cult to continue disseminating their message? From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(religious_group)#Mass_suicide_and_aftermath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(religious_group)... Only one of the group's members, Rio DiAngelo/Richard Ford, did not kill himself: weeks before the suicides, in December 1996, DiAngelo agreed with Applewhite to leave the group so he could ensure future dissemination of Heaven's Gate videos and literature. He videotaped the mansion in Rancho Santa Fe; however, the tape was not shown to police until 2002, five years after the event.
- ChikkaChiChi 13y agoWow. The more you know. Thanks!
- MrJagil 13y agoI emailed them trying to get a copy of the VHS mentioned on the site. EDIT: I got an answer! And they are free! Just $3 for shipping.
- Sektor 13y agoadmin wonders why their traffic to the site went up by 1000% overnight... ;P
- hornbaker 13y agoThe Buy link is broken.
- clarkm 13y agoWell, at least you can still download the free trial: http://download.microsoft.com/download/monstertruck20/Trial/1.0/W97/EN-US/MtM2trial.EXE http://download.microsoft.com/download/monstertruck20/Trial/...
- Rossimac 13y agoListed as "Abandonware" in one of their linked Fan sites and readily downloadable if you can't get the trial to work. http://vales.com/mtm2/ http://vales.com/mtm2/
- rimo 13y agoThanks for this, I forgot what the web once was.
- statenjason 13y agoSound still works
- dlinder 13y agoHahaha, cpyright.htm 8 + 3 ftw!
- ajasmin 13y agoAfter they got rid of that limitation Microsoft started using unwieldy path names like "Program Files" and "My Documents".
- mmcconnell1618 13y agoThe System Requirements brought back memories: * Multimedia PC with a Pentium 133 or higher processor * Microsoft® Windows® 95 operating system or Windows NT® Workstation operating system version 4.0 with Service Pack 3 * 16 MB of RAM; 32MB recommended * 30 MB of available hard-disk space; 110 MB recommended * Quad-speed CD-ROM drive; 6x recommended * Super VGA, 16-bit color monitor * Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device; joystick or race car controller recommended * Audio board with speakers or headphones
- TallboyOne 13y agoOh god, the memories :|
- MartinCron 13y agoI tried to install the demo and it failed on needing DirectX 5.2
- stuartd 13y agohttp://www.oldversion.com/windows/directx-5-2 http://www.oldversion.com/windows/directx-5-2
- kristofferR 13y agoWorked fine in Windows 8.1, just use compability mode and then this: http://www.zeus-software.com/downloads/nglide http://www.zeus-software.com/downloads/nglide
- pygy_ 13y agoTheGreatCodeholio is working hard to improve Windows compatibility in his DOSBox X branch. http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=31881 http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=31881
- wtallis 13y agoWhat that doesn't mention is how much better the game looked when you ran it on something like a 3dfx Voodoo card. I remember when I upgraded from an S3 card to a Voodoo 3, the game suddenly had things like windshield glare and partially transparent water, and much higher texture resolutions.
- Spone 13y agoSome other oldies at http://chiliconvalley.online.fr/gamesuk.htm http://chiliconvalley.online.fr/gamesuk.htm http://chiliconvalley.online.fr/games/keuk/start.htm http://chiliconvalley.online.fr/games/keuk/start.htm
- TheTechBox 13y agoI used to love this game. Wonder why they keep these sites up? I mean looking at the domain it's hardly buried deep within the MS site...
- GuiA 13y agoProbably because it's a few static HTML files that are stored with dozens (if not hundreds) of other single purpose sites, whose infrastructure is managed programmatically. (i.e. they have an intern run a script when they need to migrate it to a new cluster, and that's the extent of it)
- martindale 13y agoWhy would they take them down?
- tanzam75 13y agoBesides, it's refreshing to find a site structure from the 1990s that hasn't succumbed to link rot.
- Spittie 13y agoI guess they don't even know in which server it's hosted anymore. It's probably way less effort to just leave it here. It's not like it's using a lot of space, or requires some beefy performance anyway.
- unreal37 13y agoA client of mine has a site with 4000+ individual pages, and no content management system. In the corporate world, you just don't touch stuff if you don't need to. There's no time to go and find web pages that haven't changed in 10 years and figure out what to do about them.
- TheTechBox 13y ago4000 files(?) must be crazy to manage. Is there any kind of templating system at all with them? Now I come to think of it I guess there may also be a need to keep it in place due to links from other parts of the site.
- cocoflunchy 13y agoMotocross Madness 2 is also still up: http://www.microsoft.com/games/motocross2/ http://www.microsoft.com/games/motocross2/ And this list wouldn't be complete without Midtown Madness (1?) http://www.microsoft.com/games/midtown/ http://www.microsoft.com/games/midtown/ [edit] I'm sure you can find a bunch of others by browsing through the wayback machine (http://web.archive.org/web/19980214201021/http://microsoft.com/games/ http://web.archive.org/web/19980214201021/http://microsoft.c...), like http://www.microsoft.com/games/outwars/ http://www.microsoft.com/games/outwars/
- usernew1817 13y agounfortunately it seems "Angel Studios" the developer of the site midtown, is out of business
- locusm 13y agoJesus, that brought back some memories - Motocross Madness LAN matches FTW
- etrain 13y agoThe first reason I ever set up a VPN connection was to play MCM with randos across the internet. The first version only supported multiplayer over LAN, so you had to configure a PPTP client and find a "server" to join that had others who were similarly interested in playing. This happened for other games, too (THPS2 for the PC was a big one for me), but I remember being blown away by how many people were essentially hacking around the LAN restriction.
- gcatalfamo 13y agoNostalgia
- rob-alarcon 13y agoYeah, one of the firsts PC games I ever played.
- petersimones 13y agoI remember buying the steering wheel for Midtown Madness, which was larger than many desktop monitors today and required a near-bolting to your desk, and feeling like I was on the cutting edge of gaming.
- RafiqM 13y agoThat "Yeehaw" terrified me.
- prawks 13y agoSame, nearly jumped out of my seat. That's some effective salesmanship!
- l33tbro 13y agoI take it you found this on after checking out the new Wayback Machine?
- code_duck 13y agoIt's still live on MS's site and this comes up every year or so on reddit.
- everettForth 13y agohttp://www.dolekemp96.org/main.htm http://www.dolekemp96.org/main.htm
- zschallz 13y agoWhen I read campaign stances on this site last year I was really surprised how socially moderate their campaign was. I'm glad the site is still around.
- Natsu 13y agoJust look at some of this: http://www.dolekemp96.org/agenda/issues/internet.htm http://www.dolekemp96.org/agenda/issues/internet.htm Bob Dole Will Protect the Constitutional Liberty of Internet Users Bob Dole is concerned about children accessing unsuitable material when using the Internet. But strict censorship of the Internet is not the answer. Bob Dole believes that parents should take responsibility for the material that their children view, and he wants to encourage technology which allows those decisions to be made within each home. Throughout his Senate career, Bob Dole has fought to protect the Constitutional liberty of Americans: Bob Dole is a supporter of the Pro-CODE bill that limits the federal government's control of encryption and user keys. It permits the export of software that includes encryption if the software is easily available in this country. Bob Dole strongly supports the observations made in the recent National Research Council report that widespread use of encryption to promote information security outweighs the difficulties encrypted communications place on law enforcement. Economic espionage from foreign countries and companies is a serious threat, and Bob Dole believes Americans should have the right to guard themselves using encryption. Bob Dole supported the Senate hearings on Internet copyright laws. The hearings provided suggestions from information creators, Internet and on-line service providers, librarians and Internet users on developing compromises that balance the rights and needs of all participants. Bob Dole fought for provisions in the Telecommunications Act of 1996 that encourage parents to take responsibility for the Internet material which their children view. Bob Dole helped pass the Bayh-Dole act of 1980 which helped create the biotechnology industry by allowing inventions from federal research dollars to be commercially developed. As President, Bob Dole will: Promote policies that ensure that the United States remains the world leader in technological innovation. Reject heavy-handed big-government regulations of cyberspace. Promote policies that preserve and advance the openness and decentralization of computer-based communications. Preserve and protect American citizens' right to privacy and the need for secure communications.
- rocky1138 13y ago"Xbox unveiled at the 2001 Consumer Electronics Show."
- mwc 13y ago"Simply put, these are the best racing graphics I've seen on a PC!"
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- Blih 13y agohttp://www.microsoft.com/games/empires/features.htm http://www.microsoft.com/games/empires/features.htm Age of empires
- throwaway0094 13y agoYeah, I immediately thought of that too. I've been to that webpage in the past 1-2 years, it's a game I used to play with friends every once in a while.
- aroman 13y agoYup, came here to post this link. I literally was just playing the trial version hosted on this website YESTERDAY. It plays perfectly under WINE in Mac OS 10.9 on my MacBook Air. Such a fantastic game.
- Aldo_MX 13y agoIt's sad that since AoE Online the main site got broken :(, same with AoC's homepage.
- wnevets 13y agoMSN Gaming Zone is where all the cool kids hang
- eksith 13y agoI was wearing headphones (just finished listening to a song) and the "Yeehaw!" made me jump out of my seat.
- 8ig8 13y agoI'm not sure why, but the '.htm' extension always felt dirty to me. Still does.
- lstamour 13y agoIt feels DOSsy, to force the file extension to bend to your 3-character limit rather than let it all hang out. Then again, it highlights how accustomed we are now to hiding our filenames with folders and web apps.
- shrikant 13y agoAh yes, the days of dealing with directories named "PROGRA~1". Good riddance.
- pkboy 13y agoHow about Space Jam? http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm
- anyfoo 13y ago"Simply put, these are the best web styles I've seen on a PC!" -- anyfoo
- Splendor 13y agohttp://www.microsoft.com/games/monster/audio/boogievan.wav http://www.microsoft.com/games/monster/audio/boogievan.wav
- codfrantic 13y agoIs that Steve Ballmer?!
- bashinator 13y agoOne of my favorite '90s-style sites: http://www.basscentral.com/ http://www.basscentral.com/
- bradleyy 13y agoAgreed, Beaver is a great guy, but that website. Oy gavolt. Also kitschy, in same vein: http://bassnw.com/ http://bassnw.com/ -- a couple hundred feet from my office. Great folks.
- malkia 13y agoI worked on the port to pc of this game - http://web.archive.org/web/20020325194655/http://mgspc.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20020325194655/http://mgspc.com/ - the mgspc.com still is owned by Microsoft, and at some point the redirection worked... Sadly it's gone ;(
- Arubis 13y agoAn HTML file virtually unchanged in fifteen years still renders cleanly in a modern browser. Backwards compatibility across open standards is a wonderful thing.
- frozenport 13y agoI think we miss part of the user experience of having only 640x480 pixels.
- fragsworth 13y agoHeh, good point. Actually, if you zoom in several times, the page looks much more reasonable.
- MarkSweep 13y agoThe "responsive design mode" feature in Firefox's web developer tools let's you relive the magic of 640x480.
- mixmastamyk 13y agoI worked in IT around '96 and was lucky enough to commandeer a 21" 1600x1200 CRT at that time. 2d was ok, but the Pentium 90/133? I had could power Quake at 1280x1024 at about 5-10fps, so I had to crank it down several notches.
- lstamour 13y agoLooked great on an iPad retina in landscape. All I thought was that it has all 16 colours in it! :)
- smrtinsert 13y agoWell, more specifically table-based design. It Just Works (tm).
- unsignedint 13y agoIn some places, table-based designs are apparently still hip, and I come across few for localization. Gives me huge facepalm dealing with them...
- capex 13y agoThe newsreel tries to complete the nostalgia, 'Xbox unveiled at the 2001 Consumer Electronics Show'.
- DigitalSea 13y agoNostalgia overload. I absolutely loved this game back in the day. Surprised to see you can still even download the demo of the game even. I'm guessing this was one of those sites Microsoft forgot about. Look at those system requirements, back when PC power was still measured in megahertz and ram was still referred to in megabytes, crazy.
- BonoboBoner 13y agoI spent hours driving through the never ending nature around the actual track. What a fantastic game.
- Nicholas_C 13y agoIs there anyway I can still play this on a modern computer? I did a quick Google check and nothing came up. This was my favorite game as a child.
- code_duck 13y agoYes, most win98/DOS games can be played through DOSBOX or even WINE if not directly on modern windows.
- jakestl 13y agoIt installs if you set it to Windows 95 compatibility mode. The game runs too if you tweak the graphics settings. For being a 15 year old game I'm surprised at the amount of features it has (instant replay, view from other trucks, etc.)
- christopherryan 13y agoGOSPEL ARTIST POSES NUDE! Evon Latrail is the author of a children's book "When Mommy Went to Heaven". She wrote/recorded a few songs; "Lord Bless My Enemies" and "It Is Time" happens to be two of the titles. She even has a song entitled, "Can't You See (Abortion Is Murder). She went Pro-life after having a abortion! Really???? Now here is a photo of her posing in chocolate as a "Swamp Girl". The word Hypocrite is floating around somewhere. This story has made front page news in the local paper. How can this so called "Gospel Artist" be a role model if she's posing news? For more on this story.....Go to Google or YouTube and search, Evon Latrail. I seen the picture on Google!
- kurtko 13y agoHere's another classic ... even 2006 looks so dated today: http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060703/multimedia/50_science_blogs.html http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060703/multimedia/50_science...
- joering2 13y agohttp://www.heavensgate.com/ http://www.heavensgate.com/ edit: okay just learnt someone already posted this one. needless to say, the visit to this site still creeps me out!
- danso 13y agoAFAIK, the original homepage for "Black Hawk Down", which was a long-form serial newspaper story before it became a book and a movie, still looks as I remember it back in 1997: http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/somalia/sitemap.asp http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/somalia/sitemap.asp Back then, it was one of the most sophisticated news and multimedia packages. It still is today.
- Pinatubo 13y agoThe website from my favorite late night show in college is still up. Last updated 1999: http://www.etropolis.com/fishmasters/fishtop.htm http://www.etropolis.com/fishmasters/fishtop.htm
- sunwooz 13y agoWhy were we so fascinated by black backgrounds back in the 90's? I know I was guilty of it.
- verisimilitude 13y agoBlack backgrounds definitely have a different look on CRTs; that may have been a factor.
- sgustard 13y agoBlack backgrounds were all the rage in the 70s too, along with green text.
- guiomie 13y agoIs that Steve Ballmer talking when you load the site ?
- dualogy 13y agoOooh the memories. I was 16 and getting into HTML, but had to time-share the PC with my lil bro who loved playing this. Hence, I hated this game :D
- noonespecial 13y agoAhh lan gaming over fiddly IPX networks. Fun on a bun. Maybe after MTM some doom2 or even some quake for those with Voodoo Rush cards?
- AsymetricCom 13y agoHow do you report?
- mikelbring 13y agoMore responsive than most sites today.
- dupa99 13y agoThere were no Math.random back then ?
- elijahmurray 13y agoJust keep refreshing for nonstop, entertainment. Boy, makes me want to buy! [audio]
- uses 13y agoNone of the linked reviews [0] are still up, and all but one of the review sites themselves are gone. [0]http://www.microsoft.com/games/monster/reviews.htm http://www.microsoft.com/games/monster/reviews.htm
- jebblue 13y agoThe past two weeks there have been at least one and usually two or more Microsoft related articles. This is even more annoying than the drivel posted by the NY Times.
- mixmastamyk 13y ago... and I've been waiting for Monster Truck Madness 3 for almost as long. :D Loved playing that game with my coworkers, and always raced as SnakeBite. Go Army Armstrong.
- ww520 13y agoIt renders surprisingly fast. It reminds me of running XP on modern hardware. Old software just runs so much faster on new hardware than new software.
- rappuccino 13y agoSo I found out this actually installs and runs on my XP box.
- niix 13y agoheybuddy.wav
- bbarn 13y agoWait.. shouldn't there be six MSDN/windows forum redirects ending in a page that says this page doesn't exist anymore?
- hariharasudhan 13y agoDoes it still work on IE?
- novascorpio 13y agoOne of my favorite throwback sites that's still up is https://www.kfc.com/ https://www.kfc.com/. 2006 isn't that old, but it's still hilarious.
- dpcx 13y agoI worked at Yum Brands when that version of the site was first created. It's much older than 2006 though.
- jamescraft34 13y agoWow am I a code nerd or what. Just viewed source and was excited and overwhelmed with nostalgia. Look at all those <td>'s! <blink>Post more old site links!</blink> Actually that would be a fun thread to create...
- mrspeaker 13y agoView source on HN. Still overwhelmed with nostalgia? ;)
- Intermernet 13y agoBut... there's an add in the top bar for "Links 2001"! Surely this dates the page beyond 1998?
- granttimmerman 13y agoLol, the whole website is inside a <font> tag.
- stormbrew 13y agoReally a shame it didn't have an Under Construction[1] gif. [1] http://www.animatedgif.net/underconstruction/caution1_e0.gif http://www.animatedgif.net/underconstruction/caution1_e0.gif
- ericgoldberg 13y agoThis is amazing. I have 3 new SMS tones now. (See: http://www.microsoft.com/games/monster/downloads.htm http://www.microsoft.com/games/monster/downloads.htm )
- izietto 13y agoMonster Truck Madness 1 was a masterpiece, I remember it clearly! Never tried the 2 though
- csomar 13y agoTry refreshing the page and you'll get a different sound-track. Made me curious about the implementation. Interestingly, they are using a custom random function today=new Date(); jran=today.getTime(); var number=5; var random_number=1; var bgsnd="/games/random/bgsnd.wav"; var images="/games/random/intro.JPG"; var sizes=" width=602 height=228"; function randomizeNumber() { ia=9301; ic=49297; im=233280; jran = (jran*ia+ic) % im; random_number=Math.ceil( (jran/(im*1.0)) *number); if (random_number==1){ bgsnd="audio/intro/yeeha.wav";} if (random_number==2){ bgsnd="audio/intro/crash_10.wav";} if (random_number==3){ bgsnd="audio/intro/heybuddy.wav";} if (random_number==4){ bgsnd="audio/intro/lovethatmud.wav";} if (random_number==5){ bgsnd="audio/intro/webintro.wav";} } And then they run it when the page opens randomizeNumber(); document.open(); if (version == "n3" || version == "n4"){ document.write("<embed src="+bgsnd+" autostart=true hidden=true></embed>");} if (version == "e3" || version == "e4"){ document.write("<bgsound src="+bgsnd+">");} document.close();
- stevewillows 13y agoAnother fantastic example of this is the site for Space Jam -- http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm
- _pmf_ 13y agoThe original Monster Truck Madness, along with the original Motocross Madness (with dedicated motion sensitive Microsoft Sidewinder controller), were probably the games I played the most.
- nnnnni 13y ago"HEY BUDDY, READY TO GET MUDDY?" That reminded me why I generally always leave my sound muted unless I need it for something specific. Ugh, remember the old days when every page had a midi embedded in it?
- tomelders 13y agoIf I knew then what I know now, I'd be rich. I sometimes wonder what it would be like if I found myself transported back to the late 90's with a copy of jQuery. I'd blow their tiny minds I would.
- logicallee 13y agonothing would run jQuery bro. now get transported back with a copy of Firefox...
- rtkwe 13y agoComputers would probably struggle to run it though.
- gbraad 13y ago... And so is the game... Nothing to see here. Move along.
- josefresco 13y agoThis was one of the first PC "open world" GTA style games where I spent more time trying to drive my monster truck up impossible obstacles and exploiting the game physics than I did ever racing.
- bringking 13y agoMakes you appreciate how much layouts have improved with CSS. So much layout code in the javascript. And tables. Tables as far as the eye can see.
- jpswade 13y agoCheck out all these old trials: http://www.microsoft.com/games/trial_versions.htm http://www.microsoft.com/games/trial_versions.htm
- pbhjpbhj 13y agoNone of those trials that I tried have the download available, eg AoE II (http://download.microsoft.com/download/aoeaok/Trial/1.0/WIN98/EN-US/AoE2demo.exe http://download.microsoft.com/download/aoeaok/Trial/1.0/WIN9...). Very strange that they retain the page when the payload doesn't link anymore. The pages must turn up in the link-checks and be specifically flagged to remain unfixed?
- phillc 13y agoI actually owe my programming career to MTM. When I was ~10-11 years old, I held many tournaments. At some point, my tournament grew to the point where I couldn't manage signups day of, and tried to make a website using frontpage + some form of extensions (angelfire? tripod?) to have early signups. I eventually learned javascript and a tiny bit of perl. Looking back at that point in time, I did a horrible job of managing those tournaments (Sometimes my pre-teen responsibilities took priority and made me miss some tournaments. Oh and I seem to remember storing passwords in clear text). However I look at myself today and am extremely happy to be a successful developer, which may have never happened if it hadn't been for the MTM1/MTM2 games and websites, which I am certain I probably copied a ton of "codes" from back then.
- NKCSS 13y agoAaaaaaaand it's gone. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6681746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6681746