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Joshua, a developer costs $100k per year in United States. Now consider India, Latin America and other countries. For example: I live in Salvador - Brazil her

Joshua, a developer costs $100k per year in United States. Now consider India, Latin America and other countries. For example: I live in Salvador - Brazil here a developer costs $10k-$20k per year. In this scenario, this tools represent between 50%-100% of the developer cost. I think that in India it's even worst.

taspeotis 13y ago
The example was for the top tier VS Ultimate with MSDN. Depending on your requirements Express might suit you. Which is 0% of the developer cost.
- pauloortins 13y ago
  Working without plugins support is not a option for me. We have to always try use the most productive environment and if we can't do it due licenses cost, it's time to analyze the platform.
  - taspeotis 13y ago
    So you need at least Professional, which is 1/10 the cost of Ultimate. Which puts your percentages closer to 5-10%* *Based off your claim that a developer is 10 to 20k and assuming USD I converted the prices from here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/pt-br/subscriptions/buy.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/pt-br/subscriptions/buy.aspx Note retail can be cheaper, but you don't get MSDN with it.
joshuaellinger 13y ago
Ah... that is a really good point. It is so easy to get blinded by being in the US. Thank you for the clarification. However, at those salaries, I could hire you and 2 of your friends, pay for the tools, and still come out at $100K. I've got a tremendous amount of respect for technical talent in the rest of the world (i.e. -- most of the smart people in the world don't live in SF) but the problem I have is that I have no clue about how to find, hire, and manage really good people outside of the US. Hell, it is hard enough with a common language and culture.
hhandoko 13y ago
I've always thought that Microsoft tools are priced accordingly to the region, I assume that it's adjusted depending on the purchasing power of the consumers? e.g. Visual Studio costs $500 in the US, but it's at least twice that here in Australia.

taspeotis 13y ago

The example was for the top tier VS Ultimate with MSDN. Depending on your requirements Express might suit you. Which is 0% of the developer cost.

pauloortins 13y ago
Working without plugins support is not a option for me. We have to always try use the most productive environment and if we can't do it due licenses cost, it's time to analyze the platform.
- taspeotis 13y ago
  So you need at least Professional, which is 1/10 the cost of Ultimate. Which puts your percentages closer to 5-10%* *Based off your claim that a developer is 10 to 20k and assuming USD I converted the prices from here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/pt-br/subscriptions/buy.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/pt-br/subscriptions/buy.aspx Note retail can be cheaper, but you don't get MSDN with it.

joshuaellinger 13y ago

Ah... that is a really good point. It is so easy to get blinded by being in the US. Thank you for the clarification. However, at those salaries, I could hire you and 2 of your friends, pay for the tools, and still come out at $100K. I've got a tremendous amount of respect for technical talent in the rest of the world (i.e. -- most of the smart people in the world don't live in SF) but the problem I have is that I have no clue about how to find, hire, and manage really good people outside of the US. Hell, it is hard enough with a common language and culture.

hhandoko 13y ago

I've always thought that Microsoft tools are priced accordingly to the region, I assume that it's adjusted depending on the purchasing power of the consumers? e.g. Visual Studio costs $500 in the US, but it's at least twice that here in Australia.