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Hey Austen, if you'd be interested in sharing any specifics (companies, keywords, people, etc.) regarding people spamming by leaving millions of links gumming u

Hey Austen, if you'd be interested in sharing any specifics (companies, keywords, people, etc.) regarding people spamming by leaving millions of links gumming up the web, my team would be happy to investigate in more detail.

austenallred 13y ago
Email me - email address in HN profile
- PilateDeGuerre 13y ago
  No one likes a snitch.
  - cmyr 13y ago
    No one likes spammers.
    - Axsuul 13y ago
      Hate the game, not the player.
      - swang 13y ago
        No I think in this case: Fuck Spammers.
  - GrinningFool 13y ago
    Speak for yourself. Snitches on spammers hold a special place in my heart.
Matsta 13y ago
Hahaha do you seriously think he's gonna give up the keywords these guys are making money off. Spamming sites still worked pre-hummingbird and infact it works even better now. Even Negative SEO works just as well. Have a competitor you don't like? Give him 100k blog comments with "Buy Viagra" and suddenly he will be de indexed in 3 months or less. I think half the reason she quit is that SEO is so damn unpredictable now. You can make a spammy site and might rank or might get de-indexed. But at the same time you can make a 100% whitehat site and it probably won't even rank and can get just as easily de-indexed as a blackhat spam site. You need to read up on BlackHatWorld a bit more Mr Cutts.
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- throwaway9848 13y ago
  That's the joke.
- Matt_Cutts 13y ago
  Hey Matt G, I appreciate the suggestion but I already read quite a bit of BHW. P.S. I enjoyed reading about that Twitter stuff from 2-3 years ago.
  - bapbap 13y ago
    One of my sites was a victim of the negative SEO trick, I kept getting warnings from Google (Site violates Google's quality guidelines) that there were links to my site that violated their guidelines. It didn't matter what I said in my reconsideration request to explain I had no knowledge or control over it (I've no interest in spammy link sharing or buying links), I kept getting similar canned responses. I gave up in the end.
  - kamisendu 13y ago
    In fact, there are many spamming sites in non-English searches. If you like these info,I can mail you some.
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dchuk 13y ago
Surely this is something trivial to identify internally for you guys?
- Matt_Cutts 13y ago
  We're pretty good at dissecting various techniques, spam networks, etc. But I always like to hear feedback from different places to see how we're doing, uncover new pockets of spam, etc.
  - gazkey 13y ago
    I must admit, I always wondered how this network got away with churning burning for past few years (hdwallpapers3d.com, hdwallpapersdj.com, hdwallpapersinn.com, hdwallpapersuk.com, hdwallpapersfan.com, hdwallpaperszon.com, celebritywallpapers3d.com, hdwallpapersonly.com) Always come up, they offer little value, and are often no more than a few months old, and all made for adsense pages of content ripped from other places. Moment you take one down like you did with hdwallpaperarena.com they just redirected it to hdwallpapersinn.com (which even has the same logo up still). I just found it a bit of an an odd one given some tactics they apply are outlawed yet they seem to get by, I always see these sites crop up.
  - lzr 13y ago
    Hi, Matt, If scraped content ranked high is considered a spam, try search for 'atx pinout' (without quotes). The first image result is img.lehaleha.com/medium/17/atx%20smps%20circuit%20diagram17.jpg which is placed on the page circuitdiagramupdate.blogspot.com/2013/08/atx-smps-circuit-diagram.html . You can see in lower right corner of this image url smpspowersupply.com - that's where they scraped this image. Ironically, the original image (shown in smpspowersupply.com/connectors-pinouts.html ) is seen nowhere in google search results.
  - SEOBSDetector 13y ago
    Here's one that is a little under the radar. The Young Entrepreneur's Council theyec.org posts guest blog articles on well known sites like Forbes, Inc, B2C. Those articles are full of "expert" quotes from members of the YEC with paid memberships - all with links to their sites of course. You'll see the same sites linked to in most of these mostly useless articles. You won't be seeing any quotes or links from people who haven't paid the YEC. Nice little link exchange to get links from really prominent sites.
USblfs-1980 13y ago
I work a lot in the EU markets (half German). Here some of the biggest spammers I know casamundo.de + .nl - auto generating texts and internal, irrelevant links. Outranks every player. independer.nl/autoverzekering/merken/opel.aspx - generating doorway pages with minimal / none added value veiligonlinegeldlenen.nl - just check their back link profile and site, and you know enough meinestadt.de/berlin/ - great start, until you find stuff they really rank on: meinestadt.de/berlin/dsl - no value add And many, many more. The German market is competitive but with smart spamming and automated content generation, you can outrank anyone.

austenallred 13y ago

Email me - email address in HN profile

PilateDeGuerre 13y ago
No one likes a snitch.
- cmyr 13y ago
  No one likes spammers.
  - Axsuul 13y ago
    Hate the game, not the player.
    - swang 13y ago
      No I think in this case: Fuck Spammers.
- GrinningFool 13y ago
  Speak for yourself. Snitches on spammers hold a special place in my heart.

Matsta 13y ago

Hahaha do you seriously think he's gonna give up the keywords these guys are making money off. Spamming sites still worked pre-hummingbird and infact it works even better now. Even Negative SEO works just as well. Have a competitor you don't like? Give him 100k blog comments with "Buy Viagra" and suddenly he will be de indexed in 3 months or less. I think half the reason she quit is that SEO is so damn unpredictable now. You can make a spammy site and might rank or might get de-indexed. But at the same time you can make a 100% whitehat site and it probably won't even rank and can get just as easily de-indexed as a blackhat spam site. You need to read up on BlackHatWorld a bit more Mr Cutts.

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throwaway9848 13y ago
That's the joke.
Matt_Cutts 13y ago
Hey Matt G, I appreciate the suggestion but I already read quite a bit of BHW. P.S. I enjoyed reading about that Twitter stuff from 2-3 years ago.
- bapbap 13y ago
  One of my sites was a victim of the negative SEO trick, I kept getting warnings from Google (Site violates Google's quality guidelines) that there were links to my site that violated their guidelines. It didn't matter what I said in my reconsideration request to explain I had no knowledge or control over it (I've no interest in spammy link sharing or buying links), I kept getting similar canned responses. I gave up in the end.
- kamisendu 13y ago
  In fact, there are many spamming sites in non-English searches. If you like these info,I can mail you some.
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dchuk 13y ago

Surely this is something trivial to identify internally for you guys?

Matt_Cutts 13y ago
We're pretty good at dissecting various techniques, spam networks, etc. But I always like to hear feedback from different places to see how we're doing, uncover new pockets of spam, etc.
- gazkey 13y ago
  I must admit, I always wondered how this network got away with churning burning for past few years (hdwallpapers3d.com, hdwallpapersdj.com, hdwallpapersinn.com, hdwallpapersuk.com, hdwallpapersfan.com, hdwallpaperszon.com, celebritywallpapers3d.com, hdwallpapersonly.com) Always come up, they offer little value, and are often no more than a few months old, and all made for adsense pages of content ripped from other places. Moment you take one down like you did with hdwallpaperarena.com they just redirected it to hdwallpapersinn.com (which even has the same logo up still). I just found it a bit of an an odd one given some tactics they apply are outlawed yet they seem to get by, I always see these sites crop up.
- lzr 13y ago
  Hi, Matt, If scraped content ranked high is considered a spam, try search for 'atx pinout' (without quotes). The first image result is img.lehaleha.com/medium/17/atx%20smps%20circuit%20diagram17.jpg which is placed on the page circuitdiagramupdate.blogspot.com/2013/08/atx-smps-circuit-diagram.html . You can see in lower right corner of this image url smpspowersupply.com - that's where they scraped this image. Ironically, the original image (shown in smpspowersupply.com/connectors-pinouts.html ) is seen nowhere in google search results.
- SEOBSDetector 13y ago
  Here's one that is a little under the radar. The Young Entrepreneur's Council theyec.org posts guest blog articles on well known sites like Forbes, Inc, B2C. Those articles are full of "expert" quotes from members of the YEC with paid memberships - all with links to their sites of course. You'll see the same sites linked to in most of these mostly useless articles. You won't be seeing any quotes or links from people who haven't paid the YEC. Nice little link exchange to get links from really prominent sites.

USblfs-1980 13y ago

I work a lot in the EU markets (half German). Here some of the biggest spammers I know casamundo.de + .nl - auto generating texts and internal, irrelevant links. Outranks every player. independer.nl/autoverzekering/merken/opel.aspx - generating doorway pages with minimal / none added value veiligonlinegeldlenen.nl - just check their back link profile and site, and you know enough meinestadt.de/berlin/ - great start, until you find stuff they really rank on: meinestadt.de/berlin/dsl - no value add And many, many more. The German market is competitive but with smart spamming and automated content generation, you can outrank anyone.