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Wow. People are actually angry in that thread because they didn't look closely at the setup steps. Let's be clear here: the user was still given a choice, but

by orbitur 13y ago

Wow. People are actually angry in that thread because they didn't look closely at the setup steps. Let's be clear here: the user was still given a choice, but the user "trusted" uTorrent to not force them to make one. Give me a break.

guelo 13y ago
To be fair, utorrent used to be trustworthy before being b ought by the despicable Bittorrent Inc.
- pessimizer 13y ago
  What's despicable about Bittorrent, Inc.? They seem like a very pleasant company to me. I won't be using any of their products because I generally don't use closed source stuff, but I'm grateful for their protocol.
rhizome 13y ago
Ah yes, the time-tested virtue of taking advantage of the naive.
taspeotis 13y ago
I do disagree with the strategy of bundling typically unwanted software in with installers. But as someone who's installed Java numerous times and never ended up with the Ask Toolbar I don't have much sympathy for people who can't pay attention to what's presented on the screen.
dylz 13y ago
It installs whether you pick yes or no. edit: "Do you want to install chrome? yes/no", no -> "you'll now install toolbar with utorrent. Next >", no yes/no else: "Do you want to install chrome? yes/no", yes -> utorrent + chrome What you're offered is based on a number of things like IP location and computer versions
cefarix 13y ago
I got bitten by this yesterday when I updated. I didn't expect it at all and only realized I had installed something a fraction of a second after I clicked what looked like a Next button... Went to Control Panel and uninstalled as soon as I noticed an icon in the taskbar notification area.
chilldream 13y ago
"You secretly installed crap I didn't want on my computer!" "No, I didn't. I threw up a button that you'd never click on purpose hoping you'd accidentally click it and give me 'permission' to install crap you didn't want on your computer." "Oh, good. For a minute there I thought you were some kind of scumbag." (ethics of bundling undesired programs in installers notwithstanding, users are asserting that the thing didn't just change their defaults but also kept resetting their defaults even after the user changed it back. Not cool even if the user installed it entirely on purpose)
mattwrench 13y ago
I made the same mistake a few weeks ago because it's especially deceitful. uTorrent disguises this SearchProtect program with what appears to be a ToS agreement page after you've already rejected another piece of crapware, making you assume you're already in the clear.

by orbitur 13y ago

guelo 13y ago

To be fair, utorrent used to be trustworthy before being b ought by the despicable Bittorrent Inc.

pessimizer 13y ago
What's despicable about Bittorrent, Inc.? They seem like a very pleasant company to me. I won't be using any of their products because I generally don't use closed source stuff, but I'm grateful for their protocol.

rhizome 13y ago

Ah yes, the time-tested virtue of taking advantage of the naive.

taspeotis 13y ago

I do disagree with the strategy of bundling typically unwanted software in with installers. But as someone who's installed Java numerous times and never ended up with the Ask Toolbar I don't have much sympathy for people who can't pay attention to what's presented on the screen.

dylz 13y ago

It installs whether you pick yes or no. edit: "Do you want to install chrome? yes/no", no -> "you'll now install toolbar with utorrent. Next >", no yes/no else: "Do you want to install chrome? yes/no", yes -> utorrent + chrome What you're offered is based on a number of things like IP location and computer versions

cefarix 13y ago

I got bitten by this yesterday when I updated. I didn't expect it at all and only realized I had installed something a fraction of a second after I clicked what looked like a Next button... Went to Control Panel and uninstalled as soon as I noticed an icon in the taskbar notification area.

chilldream 13y ago

"You secretly installed crap I didn't want on my computer!" "No, I didn't. I threw up a button that you'd never click on purpose hoping you'd accidentally click it and give me 'permission' to install crap you didn't want on your computer." "Oh, good. For a minute there I thought you were some kind of scumbag." (ethics of bundling undesired programs in installers notwithstanding, users are asserting that the thing didn't just change their defaults but also kept resetting their defaults even after the user changed it back. Not cool even if the user installed it entirely on purpose)

mattwrench 13y ago

I made the same mistake a few weeks ago because it's especially deceitful. uTorrent disguises this SearchProtect program with what appears to be a ToS agreement page after you've already rejected another piece of crapware, making you assume you're already in the clear.