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When we give up all privacy, suddenly it no longer exists.
by brymaster 13y ago
When we give up all privacy, suddenly it no longer exists.
- tene 13y agoRight, and... what would the harm be there? Is that just a fundamental value for you?
- brymaster 13y ago> Right, and... what would the harm be there? That's a little too obvious to state so I won't pretend there's people here that haven't figured that out yet for the sake of overly-pedantic or naive arguing. You're moving into "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" territory. > Is that just a fundamental value for you? Yep. It's in my country's constitution and protected under various laws.
- alaskamiller 13y agoYou probably mean bill of rights. The US Constitution has no wording expressing any concerns over an American's privacy.
- brymaster 13y agoI'm referring to the 4th amendment in the Bill of Rights, in the US Constitution that was interpreted by Katz v. United States to protect individuals with a "reasonable expectation of privacy."
- OvidNaso 13y agoThe Bill of Rights are the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution.
- dragonwriter 13y agoThe Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution.
- e12e 13y ago> Right, and... what would the harm be there? Is that just a fundamental value for you? For those that haven't read it, I still recommend this as a good introduction to some fundamental ideas around why privacy should/could be considered a basic right: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/privacy/Privacy_brand_warr2.html http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/priva...
- bovermyer 13y agoThis is true. And... if you're on the Internet, I'm sorry, but you can have no reasonable expectation of privacy. That includes owning a smartphone.
- cik 13y agoAgreed. Smartphones are nice little tracking devices, now helpfully with GPS!
- talmand 13y agoUsing GPS to track someone is for lazy people. If they have a signal, you don't need GPS to have an idea of where they are.
- talmand 13y agoAn app on a phone doesn't necessarily qualify as being "on the Internet". That's like saying if you use Calculator on your PC then you shouldn't expect privacy on the Internet.